Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

pc7 · 18-11-2020 04:18PM

Haven't been following the last while, that's great numbers on the swabs, is there any backlog floating?

KrustyUCC · 18-11-2020 04:19PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Tony H should be pleased - the 5 day average will fall by 20 cases today (482 cases last Friday, should be under 390 today). I expect a celebratory tweet from Tony later on.

Ha you'll be waiting

Tony only does worry

caveat emptor · 18-11-2020 04:21PM

Switzerland not in a good way.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1328803876083015687?s=20

Wombatman · 18-11-2020 04:22PM

Hookey must be stuck for a few bob to take the anti-vaxxer dollar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3XYtzvRpk0

wadacrack · 18-11-2020 04:23PM

KrustyUCC wrote: »

Ha you'll be waiting

Tony only does worry

Only does worry? Were in the middle of a 2nd wave of a pandemic In Europe thats far worse than the first one. It seems warranted . This country is an outlier atm hopefully stays like that

caveat emptor · 18-11-2020 04:26PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Hookey must be stuck for a few bob to take the anti-vaxxer dollar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3XYtzvRpk0

Didn't know he was moonlighting here :pac: Moderator implies there is another side to the argument.

funnydoggy · 18-11-2020 04:28PM

George Hook looking more and more like Dustin the Turkey by the day

growleaves · 18-11-2020 04:30PM

Wombatman wrote: »

Hookey must be stuck for a few bob to take the anti-vaxxer dollar.

Do you realise that you are smearing consultants in the Mater Hospital, professors in UCD etc.? The doctors and scientists behind this organisation are no more or less of the mainstream than Anthony Staines (DCU), Ronan Glynn, Gerry Killeen (UCC) etc.

Mr Magnolia · 18-11-2020 04:30PM

seamus wrote: »

12,560 tests, giving 390 positive swabs. 3.11% positivity. 7-day down again to 3.84%

Great numbers. Hope to see 2-3 more days of this

In case anyone's a bit iffy on that number, 3.11% is the second lowest number we've had since 29th September. The only lower one was 2.72% on 10th November.

It also breaks the Wednesday curse/trend of spikes

390 today, Wednesday is very good considering your theory from last week on the weekend spill over which I agree with.

KrustyUCC · 18-11-2020 04:30PM

pc7 wrote: »

Haven't been following the last while, that's great numbers on the swabs, is there any backlog floating?

Cases yesterday 366 Swabs 364
16th cases 456 Swabs 491
15th cases 378 swabs 374
14th cases 456 swabs 388
13th cases 482 swabs 523
12th cases 395 swabs 423
11th cases 362 swabs 418

Over the past week 86 more swabs than cases

KrustyUCC · 18-11-2020 04:34PM

Then again if we go back to the 8th of November we have 70 more cases than swabs for those 10 days

https://covid19.shanehastings.eu/api/swabs/

18-11-2020 04:38PM

eagle eye wrote: »

They don't make decisions, they advise the government.
If you have ire as regards decisions made that should be focused on the government. If you have ire as regards the performance of the health service that should be focused on the HSE and the government.

Yeah??
Stephen Donnelly our Minister for Health was today interviewed by Pat Kenny on Newstalk. Pat asked him why we were not rolling out Antigen testing across the country right now in a bid to allow many sectors in the economy open back up. Stephen Donnelly said he HIMSELF believes Antigen testing is the way to go and Europe had today recommended it............yet NPHET were unconvinced that Antigen testing was good enough and for that reason Ireland was not adopting the European recommendations !!!!! He was squirming when he said this as Pat was spitting feathers and asking where the logic is in these decisions and in our incredible slowness to take action (like the mask wearing MONTHS after every other country)

So who is making the decisions about what happens in this country, what happens to the hairdressers, shops, restaurants, entertainment industry , weddings ,families who want to see their loved ones for the first time this year.....etc etc etc...........its NOT the Government, its NPHET...... straight out of Stephen Donnelly's mouth this morning!

Always_Running · 18-11-2020 04:39PM

seamus wrote: »

12,560 tests, giving 390 positive swabs. 3.11% positivity. 7-day down again to 3.84%

Great numbers. Hope to see 2-3 more days of this

In case anyone's a bit iffy on that number, 3.11% is the second lowest number we've had since 29th September. The only lower one was 2.72% on 10th November.

It also breaks the Wednesday curse/trend of spikes

Out of interest what was the swab count for each of the last few Wednesdays? Reported cases last 5 Wednesday was.

11/11 - 362
4/11 - 444
28/10 - 675
21/10 - 1167
14/10 - 1095

If my calculations are correct we need 340 or under cases reported tonight for the 7 day average to not rise from last Wednesday which was 410 cases a day.

As you say 2-3 more days whereby the positivity rate drops would be great news.

goingnowhere · 18-11-2020 04:41PM

seamus wrote: »

12,560 tests, giving 390 positive swabs. 3.11% positivity. 7-day down again to 3.84%

Excellent, 2,600 more swabs than yesterday, more testing.

If we can test 15,000 a day why should we not start to offer walk in testing or expand testing in schools or other locations, test test test...

Be interesting to see if the private test count could be included also would push the % down and get a better track on the presence in the community

seamus · 18-11-2020 04:42PM

Always_Running wrote: »

Out of interest what was the swab count for each of the last few Wednesdays? Reported cases last 5 Wednesday was.

11/11 - 362
4/11 - 444
28/10 - 675
21/10 - 1167
14/10 - 1095

If my calculations are correct we need 340 or under cases reported tonight for the 7 day average to not rise from last Wednesday which was 410 cases a day.

As you say 2-3 more days whereby the positivity rate drops would be great news.

11/11: 421 (3.9%)
4/11: 617 (4.92%)
28/10: 657 (5.88%)
21/10: 1105 (6.66%)

KrustyUCC · 18-11-2020 04:44PM

Always_Running wrote: »

Out of interest what was the swab count for each of the last few Wednesdays? Reported cases last 5 Wednesday was.

11/11 - 362
4/11 - 444
28/10 - 675
21/10 - 1167
14/10 - 1095

If my calculations are correct we need 340 or under cases reported tonight for the 7 day average to not rise from last Wednesday which was 410 cases a day.

As you say 2-3 more days whereby the positivity rate drops would be great news.

11/11 418
4/11 617
28/10 657
21/10 1112

wadacrack · 18-11-2020 04:45PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Yeah??
Stephen Donnelly our Minister for Health was today interviewed by Pat Kenny on Newstalk. Pat asked him why we were not rolling out Antigen testing across the country right now in a bid to allow many sectors in the economy open back up. Stephen Donnelly said he HIMSELF believes Antigen testing is the way to go and Europe had today recommended it............yet NPHET were unconvinced that Antigen testing was good enough and for that reason Ireland was not adopting the European recommendations !!!!! He was squirming when he said this as Pat was spitting feathers and asking where the logic is in these decisions and in our incredible slowness to take action (like the mask wearing MONTHS after every other country)

So who is making the decisions about what happens in this country, what happens to the hairdressers, shops, restaurants, entertainment industry , weddings ,families who want to see their loved ones for the first time this year.....etc etc etc...........its NOT the Government, its NPHET...... straight out of Stephen Donnelly's mouth this morning!

Yea many scientists are confident that Antigen testing is the way forward and reliable enough to mitigate risk. Other countries facing similar problems getting these tests approved.

https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1329024406396555269

wakka12 · 18-11-2020 04:49PM

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-facemasks-idUSKBN27Y1YW?taid=5fb5418584ce3a000150fc7c&utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=twitter

Large Danish study finds face masks only reduce chance of infection by 15-20%

1.8% of mask wearing group became infected over the course of the study while 2.1% of the control group contracted COVID

Better than nothing is probably the best you can say about face masks really then, have very limited effect

AssetBacked2 · 18-11-2020 04:50PM

eagle eye wrote: »

They don't make decisions, they advise the government.
If you have ire as regards decisions made that should be focused on the government. If you have ire as regards the performance of the health service that should be focused on the HSE and the government.

People actually still believe this? :rolleyes:

daydorunrun · 18-11-2020 04:50PM

The 3 and a half day average is still quite concerning.

normanoffside · 18-11-2020 04:57PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Switzerland not in a good way.

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1328803876083015687?s=20

That's their normal capacity, they do have a surge capacity.

eagle eye · 18-11-2020 05:04PM

Deleted User wrote:

Yeah?? Stephen Donnelly our Minister for Health was today interviewed by Pat Kenny on Newstalk. Pat asked him why we were not rolling out Antigen testing across the country right now in a bid to allow many sectors in the economy open back up. Stephen Donnelly said he HIMSELF believes Antigen testing is the way to go and Europe had today recommended it............yet NPHET were unconvinced that Antigen testing was good enough and for that reason Ireland was not adopting the European recommendations !!!!! He was squirming when he said this as Pat was spitting feathers and asking where the logic is in these decisions and in our incredible slowness to take action (like the mask wearing MONTHS after every other country)

This is the same Donnelly that was part of the group who decided to ignore NPHET's advice to move to level 5 lockdown meaning we ended up in a worse situation and most likely a much longer level 5 lockdown.

I've two things to say about that man. 1. He's not capable of doing the job he's been tasked with. 2. I wouldn't believe a word out of his mouth.

caveat emptor · 18-11-2020 05:06PM

normanoffside wrote: »

That's their normal capacity, they do have a surge capacity.

That’s great. Would you say the medical society is jumping the gun on asking people to write a living will? It’s good advice generally.

In asking for Swiss residents to consider writing a living will, the medical society explained: “That will make it easier for your own relatives, as well as the intensive care ward teams, to make decisions, so that we can provide the best possible and individualized care.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/11/17/world/covid-19-coronavirus?smtyp=cur&smid=tw-nytimes#all-of-switzerlands-intensive-care-beds-are-full

18-11-2020 05:08PM

he is absolutely shameful, he's not up to the job, he stammered his way through that interview like an uninformed bafoon..we will look to NPHET, we will look to NPHET..

Plumbthedepths · 18-11-2020 05:09PM

rusty cole wrote: »

he is absolutely shameful, he's not up to the job, he stammered his way through that interview like an uninformed bafoon..we will look to NPHET, we will look to NPHET..

Not all his colleagues are convinced.
https://extra.ie/2020/11/18/news/irish-news/takeaway-pints-fines/amp

Spanish Eyes · 18-11-2020 05:11PM

eagle eye wrote: »

This is the same Donnelly that was part of the group who decided to ignore NPHET's advice to move to level 5 lockdown meaning we ended up in a worse situation and most likely a much longer level 5 lockdown.

I've two things to say about that man. 1. He's not capable of doing the job he's been tasked with. 2. I wouldn't believe a word out of his mouth.

Show me an effective Min for Health over the years. Mary Harney was nearest imv. bUt not that great either.

. The HSE is a fiefdom responsible to NO one AFAIS. So the Min for Health has no real role.

rob316 · 18-11-2020 05:12PM

eagle eye wrote: »

This is the same Donnelly that was part of the group who decided to ignore NPHET's advice to move to level 5 lockdown meaning we ended up in a worse situation and most likely a much longer level 5 lockdown.

I've two things to say about that man. 1. He's not capable of doing the job he's been tasked with. 2. I wouldn't believe a word out of his mouth.

Your foolish if you think were were getting off with a shorter lockdown. Level 5 doesn't work and the numbers are showing, Level 3 was giving the same effect and the economy was less ****ed.

Will Yam · 18-11-2020 05:15PM

seamus wrote: »

12,560 tests, giving 390 positive swabs. 3.11% positivity. 7-day down again to 3.84%

Great numbers. Hope to see 2-3 more days of this

In case anyone's a bit iffy on that number, 3.11% is the second lowest number we've had since 29th September. The only lower one was 2.72% on 10th November.

It also breaks the Wednesday curse/trend of spikes

That sounds very good news.

I wonder what gloom Tony will spin around it?

Will he take the 9 and a half day average in Tubercurry and say he is concerned?

Will Yam · 18-11-2020 05:16PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Show me an effective Min for Health over the years. Mary Harney was nearest imv. bUt not that great either.

. The HSE is a fiefdom responsible to NO one AFAIS. So the Min for Health has no real role.

Indeed.

We are paying for a rolls Royce and getting a lada.

And if the slaintecare nonsense comes to pass, we will be paying for 2 rolls royces and still get one lada.

eagle eye · 18-11-2020 05:17PM

rob316 wrote:

Your foolish if you think were were getting off with a shorter lockdown. Level 5 doesn't work and the numbers are showing, Level 3 was giving the same effect and the economy was less ****ed.

We still haven't closed the schools. That's clearly the issue now and it's ve been saying it for months.
Problem is money in no.1 for the government son they don't want to close schools.
The government's target is pretty evident and that's to get the numbers low enough so our hospitals don't get overrun and take the risk that kids will be ok.

Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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