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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #8762
    AssetBacked2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭AssetBacked2


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    Even the main COVID thread on here started to talk a bit of sense today.

    You'll find the head in the sand, curtain twitching doomers migrate to a thread where it seems they can have their blissful ignorance on days this happens. They're still there, just appear elsewhere in the forum.


  • #8763
    FrStone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    Tony 'the beatings will continue until morale improves' Holohan just after tweeting that he is 'concerned'. I hope he gets help for his anxiety.


  • #8764
    AssetBacked2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭AssetBacked2


    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-easing-restrictions-depends-on-next-two-weeks-holohan-1.4411671?mode=amp

    The next 2 weeks are crucial. Such an empty repeated phrase.

    Haha TH is a miserable so and so. Jesus Christ, he is literally treating the public like schoolkids, acting like people will push for the next 2 weeks and then get a little reward.


  • #8765
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Reckon we've actually come close to the real crossroads here- people wrote off November as we were forced to do but the Government will have to come off the very comfy fence here for really the first time since March- it's a foregone conclusion now NPHET and associated Covid fanatics are clearly now gung-ho for extended lockdowns (shock horror there eh) to continue well into December and beyond. So, they'll have to make an actual decision here- write off Christmas as per Nphet dictats and face a public political backlash....or face down Nphet for really the first time ever. It'll be fascinating to watch them all squirm because they're running out of excuses to hide behind. My money is on Nphet as any smart money would be. This government is breathtakingly spineless.


  • #8766
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    FrStone wrote: »
    Tony 'the beatings will continue until morale improves' Holohan just after tweeting that he is 'concerned'. I hope he gets help for his anxiety.

    I'm sure his massive salary, cushioned employment and endless advisory and board opportunities as a great comfort to him


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  • #8767
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,908 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    road_high wrote: »
    Reckon we've actually come close to the real crossroads here- people wrote off November as we were forced to do but the Government will have to come off the very comfy fence here for really the first time since March- it's a foregone conclusion now NPHET and associated Covid fanatics are clearly now gung-ho for extended lockdowns (shock horror there eh) to continue well into December and beyond. So, they'll have to make an actual decision here- write off Christmas as per Nphet dictats and face a public political backlash....or face down Nphet for really the first time ever. It'll be fascinating to watch them all squirm because they're running out of excuses to hide behind. My money is on Nphet as any smart money would be. This government is breathtakingly spineless.
    They won't go against NPHET again


  • #8768
    Summer2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    It’s as clear as day that we’re being softened up for another round of serious restrictions come 1st of December. Constant daily leaks hinting that the restrictions aren’t having enough of an affect. I genuinely think they’re about to lose the support of the ‘silent majority’ if they come out next week and recommend level 5 or even a reduced level 3 variant be kept for another 2 weeks.


  • #8769
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    beggars_bush wrote: »
    They won't go against NPHET again

    They never did- we had a slight delay of a few weeks before they folded.


  • #8770
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    It’s as clear as day that we’re being softened up for another round of serious restrictions come 1st of December. Constant daily leaks hinting that the restrictions aren’t having enough of an affect. I genuinely think they’re about to lose the support of the ‘silent majority’ if they come out next week and recommend level 5 or even a reduced level 3 variant be kept for another 2 weeks.

    I say bring it on. Look it's time this nonsense was brought to a head. Far too many happy clappy seals cheerleading this crap daily. Personally don't give a hoot about Christmas- a lot of pro-lockdown lackies I know are big into it- they'll get enough of their precious lockdowns for sure if that's basically taken from them


  • #8771
    Summer2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 687 ✭✭✭Summer2020


    AssetBacked2 wrote: »
    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/covid-19-easing-restrictions-depends-on-next-two-weeks-holohan-1.4411671?mode=amp

    The next 2 weeks are crucial. Such an empty repeated phrase.

    Haha TH is a miserable so and so. Jesus Christ, he is literally treating the public like schoolkids, acting like people will push for the next 2 weeks and then get a little reward.

    I’d love if someone could produce a stat for the number of time ‘next X number of weeks is crucial’ have been used in the media.


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  • #8772
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    road_high wrote: »
    I say bring it on. Look it's time this nonsense was brought to a head. Far too many happy clappy seals cheerleading this crap daily.

    Too many of us forced to take our ladle of soup, Tony Holohan and NPHET tucking into a gourmet banquet at our expense. Enough is enough.


  • #8773
    JDxtra
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,041 ✭✭✭JDxtra


    So Dr. Tony is a dictator now? This is getting ridiculous.

    The vast majority are doing their bit. The carrot was a reasonable Christmas if we behaved. We behaved. Enough of this guy calling all the shots.


  • #8774
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    beggars_bush wrote: »
    They won't go against NPHET again

    Say whatever you want about him, and I know he wasn't saying it out of love for the public but varadker has been the only one to speak up.

    Micheal Martin is doing his best invisible Man impersonation it seems, Stephen Donnelly is about as much use as a chocolate kettle and Pascal Donohue, the minister for finance, who should be scrutinizing the measures NPHET are calling for based on the cost, is hiding behind the couch. Pathetic.


  • #8775
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Populism drives politics these days. The politicians can see which way the wind is blowing with regard to restrictions. The herd started moving a while back. As always it starts out very slowly, but it inevitably gathers an unstoppable momentum. The government will ease things in December despite the wailing from NPHET.


  • #8776
    road_high
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,870 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    JDxtra wrote: »
    So Dr. Tony is a dictator now? This is getting ridiculous.

    The vast majority are doing their bit. The carrot was a reasonable Christmas if we behaved. We behaved. Enough of this guy calling all the shots.

    If we had a Taoiseach with a spine he'd be straight over to Holohan and co to put them in their place. Could you imagine Charlie Haughey or even Ahern tolerating this kind of deliberate impotence of elected government?


  • #8777
    AssetBacked2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 232 ✭✭AssetBacked2


    Remember, it has to be level 2 as level 3 is no leaving your county, no home gatherings for more than 1 other person and no wet pubs.

    The fact I am seeing hopes to move to level 3 on December 1st indicates that even NPHET and the government don't seem to realise that we have a living with covid plan. I genuinely believe they do not know how to follow it as they have not followed it to date and cannot indicate when each level is necessary.


  • #8778
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    JDxtra wrote: »
    So Dr. Tony is a dictator now? This is getting ridiculous.

    The vast majority are doing their bit. The carrot was a reasonable Christmas if we behaved. We behaved. Enough of this guy calling all the shots.

    I honestly believe that those who post this are hoping that simply posting it will make it real. You will never again see the majority of the public adhere to a lockdown. That aspect of Covid is over. Look around you.


  • #8779
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,239 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    polesheep wrote: »
    I honestly believe that those who post this are hoping that simply posting it will make it real. You will never again see the majority of the public adhere to a lockdown. That aspect of Covid is over. Look around you.

    The majority are doing their bit. Bit silly to suggest otherwise.


  • #8780
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    kippy wrote: »
    The majority are doing their bit. Bit silly to suggest otherwise.

    No, it's silly to think that they are. Go outside and look around you. The only things that are not happening now are those that have been physically removed e.g. pubs and retail.


  • #8781
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Destiny Most Pancake wrote: »
    Going outside is safest and legal.

    When you are safely outside have a look around you. Look at people's behaviour. The groups walking to school together, sitting together having coffee, calling onto each other's homes, etc. If you can't see it it's only because you don't want to see it. It's like someone putting their fingers in their ears and saying, "I'm not listening".


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  • #8782
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,239 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    polesheep wrote: »
    No, it's silly to think that they are. Go outside and look around you. The only things that are not happening now are those that have been physically removed e.g. pubs and retail.

    You need to work on your logical reasoning.
    The majority are abiding by restrictions the majority of the time


  • #8783
    funnydoggy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,065 ✭✭✭funnydoggy


    We turning on each other now?!


  • #8784
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,239 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    We turning on each other now?!

    People have been turning on each other since day one. Or having a difference of opinion depending on what you'd call it


  • #8785
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    funnydoggy wrote: »
    We turning on each other now?!

    New to this thread?

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  • #8786
    FrStone
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 720 ✭✭✭FrStone


    kippy wrote: »
    You need to work on your logical reasoning.
    The majority are abiding by restrictions the majority of the time

    That's a bit naïve.


  • #8787
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,239 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    FrStone wrote: »
    That's a bit naïve.

    How so?

    Our case numbers are stable, having come down from a high only a few weeks ago.
    Mask wearing, physical distancing, congregating in large groups, working from home, are all generally being observed by the majority that can do these things.
    If the majority were not doing as they were advised we would be up **** creek.


  • #8788
    hynesie08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,251 ✭✭✭✭hynesie08


    AssetBacked2 wrote: »
    Remember, it has to be level 2 as level 3 is no leaving your county, no home gatherings for more than 1 other person and no wet pubs.

    The fact I am seeing hopes to move to level 3 on December 1st indicates that even NPHET and the government don't seem to realise that we have a living with covid plan. I genuinely believe they do not know how to follow it as they have not followed it to date and cannot indicate when each level is necessary.

    No, level 3 is wet pubs open with additional restrictions up to and including outdoor service only.

    That's if they stick to their 5 point plan that isn't 5 points.....


  • #8789
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    kippy wrote: »
    You need to work on your logical reasoning.
    The majority are abiding by restrictions the majority of the time

    Obviously you are more comfortable believing this to be true. I'll leave you with it.


  • #8790
    kippy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,239 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    polesheep wrote: »
    Obviously you are more comfortable believing this to be true. I'll leave you with it.

    It's not a matter of believing it to be true.....it is true. All the evidence suggested this. We are a country of over five million people. A few social media videos of mass restriction breaking is not an indicator of the behaviour of the majority.

    There are, and have been, plenty not following all of the regulations since day one and others being selective about what they follow. However it's very very obvious from the case numbers that the vast majority of the population are following the majority of the regulations the majority of the time.
    The alternative narrative you are painting does not bear scrutiny.


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  • #8791
    emo72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,408 ✭✭✭emo72


    kippy wrote: »
    You need to work on your logical reasoning.
    The majority are abiding by restrictions the majority of the time

    There not. Shops open that shouldn't be open. It's all pretend click and collect, but sure your here anyway, come in and buy what you like. I've seen it in loads of shops in dublin. People still working, this is nothing like the last lockdown.


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