Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

wow i kind of have a half morbid fascination at this thing the longer it goes on. just wondering when it will end but i definitely see the medical crowd using this as thier big chance to put the boot into pubs and try to change them forever. can anyoone see this happening? i really dont think people in the british isles are built that way. why would young people rather going to a cafe to sit around and chat rather than nightclubs , pubs or concerts.when your young that makes you feel alive, surely it wouldnt cchange. i think the european thing is overplayed, do they not have nightclubs in holland, sweden, germany? i thought they were home to loads of famous djs? or is it the case people in their late 20s and early 30s give up pubs, nightclubs and generally getting sloshed way before people in the British Isles? i think we have a few things that lend themselves to drinking culture such as hen parties, stags and horse raacing events that are massive in british isles with people from 19-50 but people in europe probably would recoil at that thought if they were over 26.

What’s the general consensus? I think it’s unlikely pubs will be allowed to open. NPHET will definitely advise against it anyway. Cases starting to go up again and we’re not even out of this lockdown yet.

Dickie10 wrote: »

wow i kind of have a half morbid fascination at this thing the longer it goes on. just wondering when it will end but i definitely see the medical crowd using this as thier big chance to put the boot into pubs and try to change them forever. can anyoone see this happening? i really dont think people in the british isles are built that way. why would young people rather going to a cafe to sit around and chat rather than nightclubs , pubs or concerts.when your young that makes you feel alive, surely it wouldnt cchange. i think the european thing is overplayed, do they not have nightclubs in holland, sweden, germany? i thought they were home to loads of famous djs? or is it the case people in their late 20s and early 30s give up pubs, nightclubs and generally getting sloshed way before people in the British Isles? i think we have a few things that lend themselves to drinking culture such as hen parties, stags and horse raacing events that are massive in british isles with people from 19-50 but people in europe probably would recoil at that thought if they were over 26.

They seem to get over drinking earlier from what I've seen
I lived in Czech, it wasnt unusual to see trendy young families walking on a Sunday morning with a can of beer in hand, this is czech, the land of beer but this image would be virtually non existent here

MrStuffins wrote: »

Classic case of people just not being able to control themselves. This is why we can't have the pubs open. These are the idiots who ruin things for the rest of us by acting the maggot

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1116/1178483-takeaway-pints-debate/

But they weren't in a pub - all the pubs are closed, as they have been since March.

They were quite obviously on a street, so clearly it's time to close all the streets immediately, and ban public access. I presume you're in favour of that?

The Gaurds should be doing their ****ing job and breaking up these congregations. I live in Cork city centre and the crowds have been getting bigger and bigger for the last 4 weeks, it should of been nipped in the bud but they left it go on. Its not all takeaway pints either, plenty drinking cans and bottles bought from off licences.

I'm blue in the face from saying it, restrictions are useless without enforcement. We are going to try get away with whatever we can especially young people.

Hammering the pubs again over this is just sad at this stage.

MrStuffins wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/1117/1178635-coronavirus-ireland/

It's good to see that publicans are starting to come around to the reality that the real villains here are the "few" idiots ruining it for everyone else.

It's been this way since the start. If these people could only behave themselves, we'd be able to enjoy the pub and we'd all be grand. Not the case though!

If a few people weren't drinking pints outside, the lock down would end and we'd be back at level 2? You really think so?

Optics of the on-street drinking is awful for the pubs.

However, my experience over the weekend was of large groups (mixed ages), large multiple family groups, well outside their 5km limit, not physically distancing/ masks, nowhere near pubs or alcohol. Meeting up for a walk must give you an exemption, but having a pint on an urban street doesn't?

A number of work places, working effectively remotely since March, are also putting the pressure on to go back to the office.

Those in Dublin and Cork having pints are handy fall guys for this. The reality is, if numbers are not going as hoped, it's a wider societal issue.

Its just social media driven hysteria as usual. No problem with 10's of thousands congregating for a BLM protest. Not a ****ing peep from leo and simon then, I'm actually sure they supported it.
There isn't a shred of evidence to support outbreaks in these settings, Glynn even said so yesterday.

Augeo wrote: »

I'm sure some of the drink was purchased take away from pubs. Pubs who are happy to sell the 2nd, 3rd and 4th drink etc knowing that they are being consumed in the near vicinity.

If people were drinking in the pubs, then the pubs would be responsible for moderating their behaviour. Since the pubs are closed, the pub's responsibility is to to sell drink on the condition it's not drunk within 100m. They don't have any more responsibility for on-street drinking than the many supermarkets or off-licenses on the area, where I'm sure some of the drink was also purchased.

weldoninhio wrote: »

I meet my friends for an hour or two every Friday night and we have a few pints in the park across the road from the pub and a catchup. Normally about 20-30 of us aged from 30-50 i'd say. Weather has been extremely mild since summer ended. Pints of Guinness only €4.50. If we need to use the loo, the pub owner lets us in to use the facilities, although that's extremely rare because we aren't there that long. It's a novelty at the moment, and pints are a lot nicer than cans of Guinness. Place is left spotless when we leave.

I don't see any issue with it whatsoever. Gardai have often driven by and not said/done anything. Was the same during the summer when we all used to drink cans on the harbour. Once the place is left clean after you, I don't see what the issue is.

Sounds fine, outdoors and all as long as people are sensible and keep a bit of personal distance.