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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part VI - **Read OP for Mod Warnings**

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  • #8492
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    nofools wrote: »
    Which made all the difference

    Any proof for this


  • #8493
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,103 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    I don't care about takeaway pints personally whatsoever.

    However if takeaway pints are so dangerous when it comes to covid, why only now are they banned in November?

    Why did it take a viral video to get them banned, surely NPHET who have the numbers could have got them banned earlier?:o

    It's all about being seen to be doing something.

    Loads of non-essential stuff on sale in supermarkets, actually not just non-essential, but unhealthy.

    Why weren't the crisps and chocolate aisles sectioned off to lower the time people are spending in supermarkets?


  • #8494
    nofools
    Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


    Ginger n Lemon wrote: »
    Another day of 500 cases. Proving level 5 does f all.

    Now the cases are high because of "covid restrictions fatigue" setting in. Every excuse in the book to justify ineffectiveness of lockdowns.

    I wouldnt be surprised if NPHET were working hard now on levels 6, 7 and 8. Whereby level 8 allows you to only leave your house to buy food.

    What an absolute circus. All while the country has 20% + unemployment and 45% + youth unemployment, and rising. :mad:

    Have you compared to other states for reference and balance?


  • #8495
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Allinall wrote: »
    Nice upbeat story leading on the main RTE news.

    More details on the Moderna vaccine.

    Hopefully it, along with the Pfizer one will come on stream fairly quickly.

    No way! I thought RTE weren't reporting it...

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  • #8496
    nofools
    Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


    BeefeaterHat wrote: »
    Any proof for this


    Yes mountains of proof.

    Somewhere in the region of 40,000 lost souls before we dig into the transmission rates at the time.


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  • #8497
    nofools
    Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Level 3 was more successful. Since 5 has kicked in, cases have gone back up again.

    It isn't that simple unfortunately.


  • #8498
    Penfailed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,683 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    BeefeaterHat wrote: »
    But both the UK and Ireland locked down. Neither has done too much differently all in all.

    Seriously? I thought, reading the posts here, that we had the harshest and longest lockdown in the whole of Europe...?

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  • #8499
    Ginger n Lemon
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,447 ✭✭✭Ginger n Lemon


    “This is Ireland, not Moscow. We can’t bring in new legislation for every event that will happen at different locations throughout the country.

    “A very small number of people misbehaved in a way they shouldn't have and congregated in a way they shouldn’t have. But people are tired of restrictions and being prohibited from things they want to do. We respect what the government is trying to do, but what we want to do is to use common sense and to use the brain that god gave them to ensure they don’t overreact to a situation that happened.

    Healy-Rae speaking sense. Unfortunately on deaf ears.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/this-is-ireland-not-moscow-michael-healy-rae-hits-out-at-likely-ban-on-sale-of-takeaway-pints-39753669.html

    Tomorrow a gang will drink cans outside of Lidl, and you know what will happen then.

    Its absolutely disgraceful how govt is finding every possible way to eliminate tax revenue for the state, making us as rich as bloody Uganda.


  • #8500
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    nofools wrote: »
    Yes mountains of proof.

    Somewhere in the region of 40,000 lost souls before we dig into the transmission rates at the time.

    UK population-65 million Ireland population-5 million. I wonder why more people died in Britain


  • #8501
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Seriously? I thought, reading the posts here, that we had the harshest and longest lockdown in the whole of Europe...?

    I never said any such thing. I just said the UK locked down two weeks later in March than us


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  • #8502
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    For 2 weeks haha this country is a joke.

    Yiz are bold boys, no pints outside for 2 weeks. After that, you can only drink outside under the eases restrictions.


  • #8503
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,128 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Great to hear the vaccine news. But not that confident about HSE rollout of it TBH.

    still waiting for the flu jab 6weeks on the waiting list now.


  • #8504
    Thierry12
    Closed Accounts Posts: 979 ✭✭✭Thierry12


    normanoffside wrote: »
    Level 3 was more successful. Since 5 has kicked in, cases have gone back up again.

    Haha

    Very true

    We are the only country in the world where cases have gone up in a lockdown


  • #8505
    nofools
    Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


    BeefeaterHat wrote: »
    UK population-65 million Ireland population-5 million. I wonder why more people died in Britain

    And again i wonder why the point of proportional metrics is so lost on you.


  • #8506
    nofools
    Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


    Penfailed wrote: »
    Seriously? I thought, reading the posts here, that we had the harshest and longest lockdown in the whole of Europe...?

    Ssssh

    If you keep going he will try argue that we had no restrictions and that is why we have fewer deaths.

    LOCKDOWNS ARE USELESS

    It is all very amusing


  • #8507
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    nofools wrote: »
    And again i wonder why the point of proportional metrics is so lost on you.

    Says the bloke comparing Brazil to Iceland


  • #8508
    zerosugarbuzz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭zerosugarbuzz


    nofools wrote: »
    Ssssh

    If you keep going he will try argue that we had no restrictions and that is why we have fewer deaths.

    LOCKDOWNS ARE USELESS

    It is all very amusing

    With a new account set up this month and nearly 600 posts already, you clearly find it highly amusing.


  • #8509
    nofools
    Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


    BeefeaterHat wrote: »
    Says the bloke comparing Brazil to Iceland

    I don't know what to say in response.

    I guess you have worn me out with your purposeful ignorance of everything.


  • #8510
    walus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    With the articles like this:https://www.independent.ie/news/explainer-how-hidden-breaches-are-leading-to-an-average-of-more-than-400-new-coronavirus-cases-every-day-39753075.html it seems to me that the propaganda machine is onto yet another reason why we should keep covid under wraps for another couple of weeks.

    The fact is that this title should read: "How hidden biases are leading Nphet to an average of more than 400 coronavirus misconceptions every day".

    Are you a lockdown rule breaker? Irish journalism has truly hit rock bottom.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • #8511
    nofools
    Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


    walus wrote: »
    With the articles like this:https://www.independent.ie/news/explainer-how-hidden-breaches-are-leading-to-an-average-of-more-than-400-new-coronavirus-cases-every-day-39753075.html it seems to me that the propaganda machine is onto yet another reason why we should keep covid under wraps for another couple of weeks.

    The fact is that this title should read: "How hidden biases are leading Nphet to an average of more than 400 coronavirus misconceptions every day".

    Irish journalism has truly hit rock bottom.

    What are your hidden biases?

    I stated mine yesterday


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  • #8512
    thebaz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,857 ✭✭✭✭thebaz


    Does the number of increases not relate to schools re-opening after mid-term ?

    But not to worry Tony and the Doom and gloom merchants at NPHET will keep preaching to its citizens how we are not behaving , and as bold school children our Christmas might be taken away .
    We have the strictest and longest lockdowns in Europe and no one in the media is questioning the effectiveness of this self elected highly paid elite , perhaps many in the public are getting jaded of this never-ending lockdown and that is why they are disobeying our betters.
    Why did NPHET not increase ICU capacity dramatically over the summer , something practical rather than the never ending Fear inducing lockdown or threat of lockdown.


  • #8513
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    nofools wrote: »
    I don't know what to say in response.

    I guess you have worn me out with your purposeful ignorance of everything.

    You've been rambling on about the alleged point you're trying to make for about 3-4 pages now so why don't you stop insulting me and make the point please


  • #8514
    nofools
    Closed Accounts Posts: 608 ✭✭✭nofools


    BeefeaterHat wrote: »
    You've been rambling on about the alleged point you're trying to make for about 3-4 pages now so why don't you stop insulting me and make the point please

    I made it ten times over but you have defeated me with your poor grasp of basic logic/or deliberate obfuscation (don't know which)


  • #8515
    BeefeaterHat
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 547 ✭✭✭BeefeaterHat


    nofools wrote: »
    I made it ten times over but you have defeated me with your poor grasp of basic logic/or deliberate obfuscation (don't know which)

    Again I don't know what point you're trying to make. You just said look at Brazil and Iceland and UK and Ireland. Ignoring everything different about them. You're just being insulting for absolutely no reason now. Make the point and stop talking vaguely about making a point


  • #8516
    walus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,668 ✭✭✭walus


    nofools wrote: »
    What are your hidden biases?

    I stated mine yesterday

    I don't know. They are hidden after all.

    ”Where’s the revolution? Come on, people you’re letting me down!”



  • #8517
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    nofools wrote: »
    Ssssh

    If you keep going he will try argue that we had no restrictions and that is why we have fewer deaths.

    LOCKDOWNS ARE USELESS

    It is all very amusing

    Mod:

    Threadbanned

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  • #8518
    darconio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 935 ✭✭✭darconio


    Rjd2 wrote: »
    I don't care about takeaway pints personally whatsoever.

    However if takeaway pints are so dangerous when it comes to covid, why only now are they banned in November?

    Why did it take a viral video to get them banned, surely NPHET who have the numbers could have got them banned earlier?:o


    The perpetrators of the famous brunch in the Berlin pub are due to face the Nuremberg trial. This if they survived the infection, because surely people that tried to have a bit of fun are definitely infected, and must have spread the infection to half the population by now. Never heard of the Berlin Pub cluster? My god, be afraid, be very afraid....


  • #8519
    MelbourneMan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭MelbourneMan


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    You're absolutely right

    Most people are sick to the teeth of the negativity from Holohan and his attempts to dictate policy to the politicians. They're sick of not being able to meet friends or loved ones because of 5km restrictions that there are so many exceptions to that they're pointless, and they're very sick of this condescending shyte that "if you're good we'll let you have Christmas!"

    They're absolutely rounding against those in Government who are keeping their employers or business closed, or causing them untold stress as they worry about the bills or how they'll do Christmas for the kids this year.

    Spot on.

    I dont pick on this posting specifically, but it encompasses several of the points that I find quite objectionable from a certain cohort here.

    I shall take them in turn:
    - no one likes negativity. But Covid 19 is fundamentally bad, or negative news. In a cold analysis, as such specialists are charged to do, then of course it will be negative. But if negative is correct, and in this case unfortunately, it is, then negative the message must be. They are not giving a pep talk to boy scouts.
    - NPHET, let alone Dr. Holohan alone, do not dictate. They provide expert technical guidance. A cabinet sub committee, and the cabinet determine all actions taken to manage the virus. They are 100% responsible for the executive decisions they make.
    - of course people are sick of the consequences of the restrictions. But that is no reason to jettison them or decide that NPHET is wrong. This is simply a childish attitude.
    - there is no condescending punishment and reward bargain going on. This is a biased and warped impression coming from the point above. The childish response is aligned with seeing NPHET/Dr.Holohan/the govt, as a parent, headmaster, type figure. Which tells a lot about the state of mind of those seeing authority figures as such.
    - your last statement is again the child stamping its foot because its not getting what it wants. The pain, financial difficulties, stress, and disruption, are fully appreciated. But that does not mean they can just be swept away because people dont like the taste of the medicine.

    Much of Ireland needs to grow up and respond to its government and specialist in an appropriate manner. We would be out of the crisis all the faster and with lower overall cost, financial and societal, if they did so.


  • #8520
    jackboy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,030 ✭✭✭jackboy


    MelbourneMan wrote: »
    Much of Ireland needs to grow up and respond to its government and specialist in an appropriate manner. We would be out of the crisis all the faster and with lower overall cost, financial and societal, if they did so.

    After 8 months there are still large outbreaks in hospitals, nursing homes and meat plants. That’s the fault of the government and specialists that you mention.

    Don’t be distracted by the false concern over young people drinking cans outside.


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  • #8521
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    we'll have multiple vaccines in literally a few months. the global economy is going to come roaring back. people acting like this is never going to end and we're living in a fascist police/NPHET state would want to grow up and stop whining to be honest.


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