Schools closed until February? (part 3)

wadacrack · 06-11-2020 06:23PM

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1324606718580420608

Thats me · 06-11-2020 06:48PM

wadacrack wrote: »

https://twitter.com/DrZoeHyde/status/1324606718580420608

Comments from there (under Devon McDonald's tweet): "As in Israel....but who could have predicted? Is the same occurring in the GTA now? Maybe you should be testing in schools?"

Really, who could predict that infection can transmit in schools!

mvl · 06-11-2020 09:49PM

https://www.franceculture.fr/emissions/journal-de-8-h/journal-de-8h-du-vendredi-06-novembre-2020

"Chaque lycée doit établir un plan de continuité pédagogique, mis en oeuvre jusqu'aux prochains congés scolaires, pour garantir au moins 50% d'enseignement en présentiel pour chaque élève. Pour les lycées professionnels, où un grand nombre de cours doivent se faire en atelier, le ministre les autorise à rester en présentiel à condition qu'il y ait assez d'espace pour respecter les règles de distance sanitaire entre les élèves. "

Thats me · 06-11-2020 10:01PM

mvl wrote: »

https://www.franceculture.fr/emissions/journal-de-8-h/journal-de-8h-du-vendredi-06-novembre-2020

"Chaque lycée doit établir un plan de continuité pédagogique, mis en oeuvre jusqu'aux prochains congés scolaires, pour garantir au moins 50% d'enseignement en présentiel pour chaque élève. Pour les lycées professionnels, où un grand nombre de cours doivent se faire en atelier, le ministre les autorise à rester en présentiel à condition qu'il y ait assez d'espace pour respecter les règles de distance sanitaire entre les élèves. "

They forgot to explain why they require this instead of simply switch to distant education. Also, lycées professionnels are likely for higher age - above 15? most risky category/

Queried · 14-11-2020 12:07AM

How are people finding everything after midterm? I've not been on here in a while, wondering how people feel about schools (working in them, sending their kids in) since the break and level 5.

Dickie10 · 14-11-2020 12:58AM

Looking likely 3 week xmas break for 14 day isolation post xmas

wirelessdude01 · 14-11-2020 01:01AM

Dickie10 wrote: »

Looking likely 3 week xmas break for 14 day isolation post xmas

Of course ðŸ™„

SusanC10 · 14-11-2020 01:08AM

Queried wrote: »

How are people finding everything after midterm? I've not been on here in a while, wondering how people feel about schools (working in them, sending their kids in) since the break and level 5.

Kind of holding-pattern stage. Kids are happy at school and want to keep going. No Cases (that we know of) in either School. So we keep going.
They are the only ones leaving the house and mixing with other people each week. We will keep going until we are unhappy with the situation in either School.

Smacruairi · 14-11-2020 02:51AM

To be fair, the schools seem to be holding. There are still cases in schools and the community which can only be driven by schools at this stage, but they are at a lower rate it seems than one would have thought. If it stays this way till end of lockdown then I'd say pretty much good job.

Not that the DES did anything substantial really to help, but yeah all seems good at present, so I'll row in behind the seeming efficacy of measures... But I've a niggling feeling that there might be a small surge in a week or so with schools fully back 2 weeks. Please god not, I need a pint. But the HSE really seems to have given up on contact tracing in schools.

To be honest, for the first time in ages I'm positive, but I dunt know if that's down to not really caring anymore after 3 months and me not being personally affected, being fatigued by it all at this stage, or if I'm turning into Jim corr and just wanting the whole place opened up again!

Icyseanfitz · 14-11-2020 03:11AM

eh no real difference tbh, we got informed of a positive case in our schools by a parent, hse never contacted us. I think most of us have just given up for the hopes of a safer workplace at this stage

jrosen · 14-11-2020 09:14AM

Feel exactly the same as I did in September. I’m expecting cases, hoping tracing and schools do as they are suppose too. Over all the schools my kids have gone too are doing a great job. Kids are happy, content and seem to be taking the whole change in their stride.

SusanC10 · 14-11-2020 12:55PM

Kids are happy to be at school. Neither school has had a case yet - that we are aware of anyway.
My friend's son got the Virus just before the Midterm break. No symptoms at all. Sat 2 seats away from a classmate in Secondary School. Classmate positive. HSE said no close contacts. Classmate contacted everyone in the class himself. My friend contacted her GP and asked for a test for the son due to where he had been sitting. GP agreed and son tested positive. Luckily he did not pass it on to anyone else in the family.

BonsaiKitten · 14-11-2020 03:00PM

Much the same here, currently working my way through parent teacher meetings. My friends school (DEIS background) on the other hand has been badly hit and her class has been closed twice - uptake of home learning is very poor. We have the same age group and while mine are flying along through tricky topics, hers are falling even more behind. Not much that can be done about it unfortunately but it's sad to see the gulf widening.

DSN · 14-11-2020 04:09PM

jrosen wrote: »

Feel exactly the same as I did in September. I’m expecting cases, hoping tracing and schools do as they are suppose too. Over all the schools my kids have gone too are doing a great job. Kids are happy, content and seem to be taking the whole change in their stride.

Same as this. 4/5 cases in secondary that we were told of. Like that the cases didn't not seem to have spread even one case I know who lives with his elderly grandparents & they or none of the rest of the family positive & he himself only had a temp. It's odd isn't it. I know it's been stressful for teachers esp first few weeks but from a parent pov no worries at all. Are your schools going ahead with ptm I presume by phone or zoom? Our primary's postponed till Jan/Feb say principles enough on her plate without having to org that right now.

SusanC10 · 14-11-2020 06:34PM

Both schools have cancelled PT Meetings. We are getting a Report online for Secondary School at the end of this month and if we want to discuss anything after that, then we can make phone appointment with relevant Teacher. For the Primary, we are going to have a scheduled phone chat with the Teacher sometime before Christmas.

combat14 · 14-11-2020 09:24PM

Progress at risk as Covid-19 case number rates rise, Dr Tony Holohan warns

Dr Holohan said the five-day moving average of case numbers had increased from 354 to 392.

“We have seen higher numbers in recent days than we expected based on the encouraging trends of the last three weeks,” he said

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/progress-at-risk-as-covid-19-case-number-rates-rise-dr-tony-holohan-warns-39746892.html

wonder whats causing this uptick/spike again....
schools reopening ......???

Str8outtaWuhan · 14-11-2020 09:29PM

combat14 wrote: »

Progress at risk as Covid-19 case number rates rise, Dr Tony Holohan warns

Dr Holohan said the five-day moving average of case numbers had increased from 354 to 392.

“We have seen higher numbers in recent days than we expected based on the encouraging trends of the last three weeks,” he said

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/progress-at-risk-as-covid-19-case-number-rates-rise-dr-tony-holohan-warns-39746892.html

wonder whats causing this uptick/spike again....
schools reopening ......???

Possibly solar flare activity and migratory birds, but definitely not schools

Jinglejangle69 · 14-11-2020 09:59PM

Str8outtaWuhan wrote: »

Possibly solar flare activity and migratory birds, but definitely not schools

Or you know the fact that the nursing home and health care workers are the biggest factor in this increase.

It's.the.schools!!!

mvl · 14-11-2020 11:27PM

Read some interesting news this week from within EU

- Germany - https://twitter.com/dwnews/status/1327374919282225152
- France - " for weeks school students have been protesting with roadblocks and pickets, accusing the authorities of negligence concerning anti-Covid precautions in schools."

- Hungary has moved secondary schools/universities to online classes

JP100 · 15-11-2020 12:38AM

Schools become established in being back and suddenly the 5-day moving average of case numbers increases. Shock! Horror!

Thats me · 15-11-2020 01:26AM

combat14 wrote: »

wonder whats causing this uptick/spike again....
schools reopening ......???

Hard to say.

15 to 24 yo group seem had higher growth last week:

BTW hospitalisations:

Data source: https://data.gov.ie/dataset/covidstatisticsprofilehpscirelandopendata1

meeeeh · 15-11-2020 11:15AM

Someone should fire Nphet and employ experts in this thread. We would just have to close schools and we'd be zero Covid in no time.

BTW it's good that everyone decided there were no parties around Halloween that could influence the numbers too.

JP100 · 15-11-2020 12:09PM

So it's Halloween Parties now!!! Before that in no particular order it was the young people, the hospitals, the meat factories, house parties, restaurants/pubs, folk shopping, the border, nursing homes, the holy communions, the GAA celebrations, private households but never ever the schools! Nothing to see there at all, folks! The virus seemingly can't exist in schools. It's great altogether!

meeeeh · 15-11-2020 02:12PM

JP100 wrote: »

So it's Halloween Parties now!!! Before that in no particular order it was the young people, the hospitals, the meat factories, house parties, restaurants/pubs, folk shopping, the border, nursing homes, the holy communions, the GAA celebrations, private households but never ever the schools! Nothing to see there at all, folks! The virus seemingly can't exist in schools. It's great altogether!

Actually it's multiple effects including schools. However yes if you want moronic assesment then you can blame everything on schools.

It is never ever just the schools and it would be moronic to sacrifice kid's education when numbers are relatively ok. Almost nobody wants schools closed or moved to combined approach except those who would like to use it for political gains. It's like some would like to dumb down kids and sacrifice their future because then they will more likely vote for parties like SF in future.

s1ippy · 15-11-2020 02:23PM

JP100 wrote: »

So it's Halloween Parties now!!! Before that in no particular order it was the young people, the hospitals, the meat factories, house parties, restaurants/pubs, folk shopping, the border, nursing homes, the holy communions, the GAA celebrations, private households but never ever the schools! Nothing to see there at all, folks! The virus seemingly can't exist in schools. It's great altogether!

See that's just proof that this virus is a benevolent entity. It has total respect for education. We should set up kissing booths in them for people who are getting very lonely due to the isolation they're experiencing and the kisser can read them a factoid after the kiss so that the experience still counts as education.

This could be the future of reproduction.

combat14 · 15-11-2020 02:27PM

Greece limits public gatherings and closes primary schools

Greek police on Sunday announced a ban on public gatherings of four or more people as hospitals were overwhelmed with coronavirus cases, ahead of the annual anniversary of a 1973 anti-junta uprising.

Greece on Saturday said it would shut primary schools, kindergartens and daycare centres as virus-related deaths crossed a thousand, AFP reports

meeeeh · 15-11-2020 02:37PM

And incidence rate in Greece is more than twice as high as in Ireland. But let's not muddle the waters with facts. Creating hysteria is preferable.

SusanC10 · 15-11-2020 05:23PM

combat14 wrote: »

Greece limits public gatherings and closes primary schools

Greek police on Sunday announced a ban on public gatherings of four or more people as hospitals were overwhelmed with coronavirus cases, ahead of the annual anniversary of a 1973 anti-junta uprising.

Greece on Saturday said it would shut primary schools, kindergartens and daycare centres as virus-related deaths crossed a thousand, AFP reports

Secondary Schools already closed in Greece.

Greece had done really well in Wave 1 but not so much now.

8k71ps · 15-11-2020 06:17PM

I am more worried that their projections are so off than anything tbqh. Sounds like with the schools open alongside colleges opening in the new year we're heading for a complete ****show, with cases alongside increasingly difficult to get college places due to the amount of dropouts etc.

Best of both worlds, we don't stop the virus in it'd tracks and we have an economic meltdown.

wirelessdude01 · 15-11-2020 06:32PM

8k71ps wrote: »

I am more worried that their projections are so off than anything tbqh. Sounds like with the schools open alongside colleges opening in the new year we're heading for a complete ****show, with cases alongside increasingly difficult to get college places due to the amount of dropouts etc.

Best of both worlds, we don't stop the virus in it'd tracks and we have an economic meltdown.

I highly doubt that colleges will fully reopen.

Mate of mine is a lecturer down in Waterford and they are planning for a continuation of the current setup.