Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

Ohmeha · 12-11-2020 09:45PM

Dublin 14 Day LEA numbers up to November 9th below

28 out of 31 LEAs saw reductions in new cases, 2 of the 3 LEAs that saw increases were a minor 2-3% from existing low case numbers, Tallaght South bucking the trend of the entire city with a near 20% increase

LEA Date Range Cases Increase LEA per 100k ROI per 100k Population
TALLAGHT SOUTH LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 110 19.57% 310.2 151.5 35,465
SWORDS LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 148 -15.91% 288.1 151.5 51,370
BALLYMUN-FINGLAS LEA-6, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 150 -17.13% 272.7 151.5 55,010
BLANCHARDSTOWN-MULHUDDART LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 95 -22.76% 269.1 151.5 35,307
PALMERSTOWN-FONTHILL LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 86 -8.51% 226.1 151.5 38,035
CLONDALKIN LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 101 -16.53% 217.1 151.5 46,520
BALLYFERMOT-DRIMNAGH LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 91 -24.17% 197.5 151.5 46,068
KIMMAGE-RATHMINES LEA-6, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 105 -7.08% 188.0 151.5 55,861
BALBRIGGAN LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 67 -12.99% 183.2 151.5 36,570
ARTANE-WHITEHALL LEA-6, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 91 -31.58% 177.9 151.5 51,156
TALLAGHT CENTRAL LEA-6, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 74 -20.43% 171.2 151.5 43,215
DONAGHMEDE LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 71 -15.48% 170.7 151.5 41,593
HOWTH-MALAHIDE LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 92 -21.37% 163.9 151.5 56,139
CABRA-GLASNEVIN LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 95 -47.51% 162.0 151.5 58,652
SOUTH WEST INNER CITY LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 64 -12.33% 151.1 151.5 42,344
ONGAR LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 54 -34.94% 150.7 151.5 35,834
RUSH-LUSK LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 50 -19.35% 144.2 151.5 34,674
LUCAN LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 45 -46.43% 134.6 151.5 33,421
CASTLEKNOCK LEA-6, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 61 -29.89% 132.2 151.5 46,126
FIRHOUSE-BOHERNABREENA LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 42 -31.15% 122.8 151.5 34,202
NORTH INNER CITY LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 78 -36.07% 122.6 151.5 63,612
SOUTH EAST INNER CITY LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 49 -23.44% 120.7 151.5 40,603
CLONTARF LEA-6, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 63 -10.00% 116.3 151.5 54,182
RATHFARNHAM-TEMPLEOGUE LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 54 -23.94% 112.7 151.5 47,909
GLENCULLEN-SANDYFORD LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 36 2.86% 98.3 151.5 36,622
STILLORGAN LEA-6, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 28 -12.50% 91.8 151.5 30,508
PEMBROKE LEA-5, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 41 2.50% 90.2 151.5 45,473
DÚN LAOGHAIRE LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 33 -2.94% 79.3 151.5 41,627
DUNDRUM LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 26 -18.75% 69.4 151.5 37,452
BLACKROCK LEA-6, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 23 -45.24% 68.2 151.5 33,727
KILLINEY-SHANKILL LEA-7, DUBLIN 27/10/20 to 09/11/20 18 -30.77% 47.3 151.5 38,082

stephenjmcd · 12-11-2020 09:52PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/covid-19-mink-outbreaks-could-make-vaccines-ineffective-ecdc-warns-1.4407600

More good news ....
OK im done for the day ... night ...

Take a break man will you.

You've been ranting about not being able to travel for a decade etc tonight, couldn't be good for anyone

12-11-2020 09:54PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

Remember they said that as soon as R number is below 1 it is essentially under control ?

I do.

So plan is slight lift of restrictions for Christmas and then back to LVL 5 in January ?
And then what ? LVL 5 till April, and yoyoing between levels for the next xxxx years ???

No one said that

AssetBacked2 · 12-11-2020 09:56PM

wakka12 wrote: »

You can get an idea of the contempt Northerners are showing towards restrictions if a major city centre bar in the capital believes it has enough support that a stunt like this would not affect business
https://twitter.com/TheDirtyOnion/status/1326859381649104897

Fair fcuks to them, hopefully others copycat and the public reciprocate, subject to social distancing and table service etc being adhered to when they are open.

wadacrack · 12-11-2020 10:02PM

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1326992860776964097

Ger Roe · 12-11-2020 10:03PM

polesheep wrote: »

If they require hospital treatment they will expect it and receive it, as they should.

Of course they will and should - even if they have been selfish idiots, that's what a caring society does.

All that is being asked at the moment, is that everyone tries to be a responsible member of society and have a bit of due regard for others

wadacrack · 12-11-2020 10:05PM

https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1326992969405173761

AssetBacked2 · 12-11-2020 10:05PM

Ger Roe wrote: »

Of course they will and should - even if they have been selfish idiots, that's what a caring society does.

All that is being asked at the moment, is that everyone tries to be a responsible member of society and have a bit of due regard for others

Yes, exactly. There is no limit on how much McDonald's or sausages people can eat yet when they end up in hospital from obesity or cancer as a result of such dietary choices they expect treatment, as they should. It's the same for Covid.

Arghus · 12-11-2020 10:06PM

polesheep wrote: »

Do you mean he acts like a journalist rather than a mouthpiece?

He's a good journalist, very fair and balanced - I read every article he writes, one of the best commentators we have.

But he has a passive aggressive way of asking questions in the briefings.

majcos · 12-11-2020 10:32PM

Poor Donegal. Went to Level 3 on 25th of September when had a 14 day incidence rate of 159.6 per 100,000. Went to Level 5 on 21st of October with 14 day incidence of 320.4 per 100,000 population.

Now after three weeks of Level 5, 14 day incidence is 300.9 per 100,000. Some fluctuations in between but dreadful to see rates this high despite such restrictions. Double the national 14 day incidence rate.

Next highest county for 14 day incidence rates is Limerick at 201.1 per 100,000.

screamer · 12-11-2020 10:34PM

polesheep wrote: »

I never thought I would see the day when the government of Ireland would tell our children not to come home at Christmas. They should be utterly ashamed of themselves.

Why would they be?They should be ashamed that we’ll educated Irish people have to emigrate out of necessity, as Ireland can’t provide enough jobs or opportunities for our people. Nah, so telling them not to come home for Christmas is neither here nor there. Anyways, it’s a damned if we do and damned if we don’t topic thanks to covid.

screamer · 12-11-2020 10:36PM

majcos wrote: »

Poor Donegal. Went to Level 3 on 25th of September when had a 14 day incidence rate of 159.6 per 100,000. Went to Level 5 on 21st of October with 14 day incidence of 320.4 per 100,000 population.

Now after three weeks of Level 5, 14 day incidence is 300.9 per 100,000. Some fluctuations in between but dreadful to see rates this high despite such restrictions. Double the national 14 day incidence rate.

Next highest county for 14 day incidence rates is Limerick at 201.1 per 100,000.

Donegal east is very infected. The west is not. People in eastern regions are flicking across the border to shop in the north, where all retail has remained open. So, ain’t no lockdown like a Donegal lockdown.

Strumms · 12-11-2020 10:39PM

AssetBacked2 wrote: »

Why? On current trajectory, we are looking at 2559 deaths "with covid" in a year. Pithy to be honest and not justifying another lockdown.

How many people by your logic died ‘with’ a bad heart, ‘with’ cancer, ‘with’ cystic fibrosis... ?

If a medical professional deems that a person died ‘from’ or ‘because’ of covid I’m happy to go with the opinion of an informed health care professional , the doctor who signs and completes the death certificate therefore registering the death... date, time, details of the deceased, certified cause of death... if that’s decided to be covid...they have died of covid, not with it.

You can die ‘with’ your family, your chihuahua, your pet parakeet, you die ‘from’ a medical condition.

titan18 · 12-11-2020 10:41PM

screamer wrote: »

Donegal east is very infected. The west is not. People in eastern regions are flicking across the border to shop in the north, where all retail has remained open. So, ain’t no lockdown like a Donegal lockdown.

How come the other border counties are doing as bad then though? You'd assume same behaviour in all in regards going to the North to shop

majcos · 12-11-2020 10:41PM

screamer wrote: »

Donegal east is very infected. The west is not. People in eastern regions are flicking across the border to shop in the north, where all retail has remained open. So, ain’t no lockdown like a Donegal lockdown.

Not sure that retail is really a major driver of infections but I’m sure there must be other cross-borders factors in play especially if it is east of the county as you mention that is most affected. Or should I say infected?

ednwireland · 12-11-2020 10:42PM

screamer wrote: »

Donegal east is very infected. The west is not. People in eastern regions are flicking across the border to shop in the north, where all retail has remained open. So, ain’t no lockdown like a Donegal lockdown.

talked to a few people today who basically said the same, pennys in derry is rammed apparently !

Stheno · 12-11-2020 10:46PM

Antares35 wrote: »

Precious landlords. I'm talking literally a price of shít so old it's BER exempt property with mismatched furniture, a green bathroom suite and a moss strewn yard to the rear. 500 quid a month in the backárse of nowhere, a petrol station and church 17 miles away, next stop Dublin. "Strictly no pets". Would you fúck off with your notions pretending your property could possibly get any worse. I'd love to make note of all the strictly no pets houses and message them in three months when they're inevitably still available and say "looked at this three months ago but was precluded from viewing, g'luck with that".

Urgh...

Are you in the right thread?

Stheno · 12-11-2020 10:47PM

titan18 wrote: »

How come the other border counties are doing as bad then though? You'd assume same behaviour in all in regards going to the North to shop

Maybe the other counties are obeying the restrictions?

majcos · 12-11-2020 10:47PM

titan18 wrote: »

How come the other border counties are doing as bad then though? You'd assume same behaviour in all in regards going to the North to shop

I think another poster correctly pointed out that the other border counties are not as linked to their cross border neighbours as Donegal is.

Derry is second largest city in Northern Ireland and very close to Donegal border. Many who live in Donegal work in Derry. (And likely socialize too.)

There is some cross border movement in all border counties but I think it is even higher in Donegal as the other border counties as don’t have such a large urban centre so close.

Antares35 · 12-11-2020 10:48PM

Stheno wrote: »

Are you in the right thread?

No

screamer · 12-11-2020 10:50PM

ednwireland wrote: »

talked to a few people today who basically said the same, pennys in derry is rammed apparently !

I heard a GP from Buncranna or Lifford talking about it today, and he said it’s rampant in the general population in eastern towns of Donegal and basically said it’s the non essential border hop trips that are driving it through the roof. Now being on the frontline, I’d say he has a great insight into the drivers of the numbers there.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 12-11-2020 10:55PM

titan18 wrote: »

How come the other border counties are doing as bad then though? You'd assume same behaviour in all in regards going to the North to shop

I'd say the Derry effect has a big impact. It's the 3rd biggest city on the island and is a big draw for workers and shoppers in East Donegal.

People going to Enniskillen or Newry would be going to much smaller towns in comparison. They aren't nearly as big a lure for shoppers.

Stheno · 12-11-2020 10:56PM

screamer wrote: »

I heard a GP from Buncranna or Lifford talking about it today, and he said it’s rampant in the general population in eastern towns of Donegal and basically said it’s the non essential border hop trips that are driving it through the roof. Now being on the frontline, I’d say he has a great insight into the drivers of the numbers there.

I think its Linford which is literally right beside Strabane which has a huge supermarket and people probably rrason to themselves that its still within 5km?

Jim_Hodge · 12-11-2020 10:56PM

screamer wrote: »

I heard a GP from Buncranna or Lifford talking about it today, and he said it’s rampant in the general population in eastern towns of Donegal and basically said it’s the non essential border hop trips that are driving it through the roof. Now being on the frontline, I’d say he has a great insight into the drivers of the numbers there.

A lady (60ish) on the six one news was interviewed in Donegal. She said they had no option but to travel over the border as their own shops were shut. What a prat! She just didn't get what the restrictions mean. How would she manage if she lived in somewhere like Athlone and couldn't nip over the border to Pennys?

Deeper Blue · 12-11-2020 10:59PM

Hector Savage wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/covid-19-mink-outbreaks-could-make-vaccines-ineffective-ecdc-warns-1.4407600

More good news ....
OK im done for the day ... night ...

Is there anything new in that article that wasn't reported last week? I can't find anything

Seamai · 12-11-2020 11:05PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

A lady (60ish) on the six one news was interviewed in Donegal. She said they had no option but to travel over the border as their own shops were shut. What a prat! She just didn't get what the restrictions mean. How would she manage if she lived in somewhere like Athlone and couldn't nip over the border to Pennys?

You beat me to it, the rest of the country has to make do without non essential shopping but not them. Just because they can doesn't mean they should and the figures up there are proof of their behaviour. I don't care what they normally do, we're not living in normal times.

caveat emptor · 12-11-2020 11:06PM

“We need to open the shops to help sanity clause with his business”

Love primetime

majcos · 12-11-2020 11:07PM

Stheno wrote: »

I think its Linford which is literally right beside Strabane which has a huge supermarket and people probably rrason to themselves that its still within 5km?

Lifford and Strabane are stuck together and are practically one town. Don’t think could fault population there for doing a supermarket shop on other side of border as their local supermarket could be on other side of border and wouldn’t make less sense for them to drive further away to Letterkenny and would be more risky in terms of spread to different area.

I doubt the cross border supermarket trip could be considered a breach of restrictions in that particular twin town but the non essential shopping trips are debatable.

alentejo · 12-11-2020 11:08PM

Seems Level 3 it is so!

Cant see restaurants and bars opening till April.and then only outdoor service. I wonder when this is all over, will there be any pubs left in Ireland

KathleenGrant · 12-11-2020 11:09PM

People want to be safe. People want to be kept safe. But a lot of those same people don't want to be inconvenienced in any way in being safe.

Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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