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Trump vs Biden 2020, Day 64 of the Pennsylvania count (pt 5) Read OP

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  • #4742
    bewareofthedog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭bewareofthedog


    It's one thing Trump mounting a legal challenge to try and save face or make a few quid because he's never going to get enough corruption to over turn the states he lost, but it's another thing going around hosting rallies firing up half the Country telling angry supporters of his that the Presidential election was rigged. It is extremely reckless and dangerous behaviour on Trumps part, by the far the worst thing he could possibly do in his position.

    If there is violence to follow he will be 100% responsible for that, and the sickening thing is that he just doesn't seem to care.


  • #4743
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    bewareofthedog wrote: »
    It's one thing Trump mounting a legal challenge to try and save face or make a few quid because he's never going to get enough corruption to over turn the states he lost, but it's another thing going around hosting rallies firing up half the Country telling angry supporters of his that the Presidential election was rigged. It is extremely reckless and dangerous on Trumps part, by the far the worst thing he could possibly do in his position.

    If there is violence to follow he will be 100% responsible for that, and the sickening thing is that he just doesn't seem to care.

    He does not give a fcuk.


  • #4744
    km991148
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,277 ✭✭✭km991148


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    He’s not as stupid as he acts- not by a long shot. He may not ultimately get away with whatever he’s trying to do but I’ve no doubt he’s aiming for some form of constitutional crises - he has friends now in the SC- many of them- will get the funding though I wonder- he’s crowd funding all this legal appeals - it’s not his own money and it’s estimated to run at something like 60 m dollars - it will stop when the money runs out

    Isn't nothing to do with money, he firmly believe he won (or rather he cannot comprehend that he is a loser).

    Delusional in the extreme.


  • #4745
    flazio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,609 ✭✭✭✭flazio


    Is there anyway to render Trump as incapacitated without his parties support for the move?

    This too shall pass.



  • #4746
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    I was looking at memorable slogans from the 2016 election. Trump had way more. WAY more. It’s rare I give a compliment to him but he very much knows how to plant ideas in people’s head and create reasonable doubt. I actually think he would make a good criminal defense lawyer.

    If he can keep stirring the pot, flinging muck, all the way until the electoral college votes, then maybe he can disrupt that exercise too, and ultimately start to impact the whole democratic process.

    I don't see any Republican entities or outlets (Fox, etc) siding with reason/sanity in any of this, I am pretty sure he can rely on them siding with him no matter how insane any of this gets.


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  • #4747
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Penn wrote: »
    Reports that Pence is going on vacation.

    So either he has Covid or he thinks they should concede and he's getting out of dodge for a while.

    If we’re all sick of Trump, imagine how Pence feels? Trump and Pence seem like very different people.


  • #4748
    ebbsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,203 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    Cody montana wrote: »
    They really seems to be ramping up the lies and disinformation.
    The gullible will stick with Trump to the end.

    All 70m of them.


  • #4749
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    If he can keep stirring the pot, flinging muck, all the way until the electoral college votes, then maybe he can disrupt that exercise too, and ultimately start to impact the whole democratic process.

    I don't see any Republican entities or outlets (Fox, etc) siding with reason/sanity in any of this, I am pretty sure he can rely on them siding with him no matter how insane any of this gets.

    Well, the news wing of Fox seems to not have his back. The opinion side of things is probably different.


  • #4750
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    70% of Republicans believe the election wasn't free and fair. It's incredible, it's like a cult. If I was Trump I would absolutely be claiming the election was fraudulent, no evidence is required, these people will swallow anything he claims.

    A similar % probably believe coronavirus is a hoax and climate change also a hoax. An idiot president with delusions of grandeur and an equally idiotic base are a dangerous mix.


  • #4751
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Well, the news wing of Fox seems to not have his back. The opinion side of things is probably different.

    I don't agree, in the beginning they may have sided with reality but they seem to have been scared by the "dump Fox" slogans starting to come out of their faithful - I think they'll go with Trump to the bitter end


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  • #4752
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    Georgia lead for Biden now up to 12.3k. More than half the counties there have certified their results too.


    .


  • #4753
    froog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    i think this is going to turn very ugly. he's literally trying to steal the election in front of everyone's eyes and the AG and senior republicans are complicit.


  • #4754
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,733 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Get your marching boots on :P

    0MNyKYG.png

    And bring your own torch


  • #4755
    drogon.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 743 ✭✭✭drogon.


    froog wrote: »
    i think this is going to turn very ugly. he's literally trying to steal the election in front of everyone's eyes and the AG and senior republicans are complicit.

    Even though the republicans might be complicit, I actually don't see how the Supreme Court is going to help him. It is no where like Al Gore v Bush. I think it is just a waiting game now.


  • #4756
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    drogon. wrote: »
    Even though the republicans might be complicit, I actually don't see how the Supreme Court is going to help him. It is no where like Al Gore v Bush. I think it is just a waiting game now.

    Don't think the Supreme Court here is the end game. The aim is to sow chaos and confusion to the point the results don't get certified in a number of states (aided by Republican Governors and legislatures). This would cause the Electoral College to fail to elect either Trump or Biden and it would go forward to the House of Reps. A few days ago this was unthinkable but it's becoming at least a (slim) possibility.


  • #4757
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    I don't agree, in the beginning they may have sided with reality but they seem to have been scared by the "dump Fox" slogans starting to come out of their faithful - I think they'll go with Trump to the bitter end

    Yesterday, they cut away from Kayleigh Whatsherface in the middle of her briefing because the anchor was so alarmed at what she was saying.


  • #4758
    Inquitus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,774 ✭✭✭✭Inquitus


    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Yesterday, they cut away from Kayleigh Whatsherface in the middle of her briefing because the anchor was so alarmed at what she was saying.

    Did you see her speech, she was rabid in her allegations!


  • #4759
    extra gravy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,243 ✭✭✭✭extra gravy


    ebbsy wrote: »
    All 70m of them.

    I wonder what percentage of those are gullible enough to swallow his lies. Surely some must be turned off by his total disregard for the democratic process.


  • #4760
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,856 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    Don't think the Supreme Court here is the end game. The aim is to sow chaos and confusion to the point the results don't get certified in a number of states (aided by Republican Governors and legislatures). This would cause the Electoral College to fail to elect either Trump or Biden and it would go forward to the House of Reps. A few days ago this was unthinkable but it's becoming at least a (slim) possibility.

    So how can he disrupt the electoral college process I wonder?



    https://eu.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/08/2020-election-trump-won-ohio-what-happens-electoral-college/6164857002/

    Can the Electoral College go rogue?
    Ohio law requires its electors to cast their ballots for the winner of the state's popular vote, certified by Ohio Secretary of State Frank LaRose. Some states fine or replace electors who try to go rogue, but Ohio isn't one of them.

    The U.S. Supreme Court ruled earlier this year that states can remove or punish electors who refuse to vote for the presidential candidate they were pledged to support.

    The case reached the Supreme Court, in part, because a Colorado elector tried to vote for then-Ohio Gov. John Kasich over Democrat Hillary Clinton who won the state. His vote was thrown out and replaced with an elector who selected Clinton.


  • #4761
    Kidchameleon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    froog wrote: »
    i think this is going to turn very ugly. he's literally trying to steal the election in front of everyone's eyes and the AG and senior republicans are complicit.


    He cant "steal" anything. If it was to go through the Supreme Court it would all be legal. And yes, it would get ugly - the left would cause ARMAGEDDON whilst the Trump supporters salt mine from the comfort of their homes. And before you no doubt point out, its not going to happen - I agree with you on that.


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  • #4762
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,991 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    extra gravy wrote: »
    I wonder what percentage of those are gullible enough to swallow his lies. Surely some must be turned off by his total disregard for the democratic process.

    You'd think..

    Over 90% of Republicans still support Trump, after everything. Then again a poll found 44% of Republicans believe Bill Gates will use Coronavirus to inject them with tracking chips..

    Somehow I get the feeling Trump is not the real underlying issue here..


  • #4763
    Concannon7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭Concannon7


    extra gravy wrote: »
    I wonder what percentage of those are gullible enough to swallow his lies. Surely some must be turned off by his total disregard for the democratic process.

    You spend years of telling people the Dems are going to bring communism to America and they will end up like Venezuela coupled with the lack of education in Republican areas and they will forget all about the democratic process if it keeps the Dems out and the GOP in power.


  • #4764
    joe40
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,813 ✭✭✭joe40


    Kidchameleon wrote: »
    He cant "steal" anything. If it was to go through the Supreme Court it would all be legal. And yes, it would get ugly - the left would cause ARMAGEDDON whilst the Trump supporters salt mine from the comfort of their homes. And before you no doubt point out, its not going to happen - I agree with you on that.

    What does "salt mine"?


  • #4765
    Billy Mays
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,356 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    You'd think..

    Over 90% of Republicans still support Trump, after everything. Then again a poll found 44% of Republicans believe Bill Gates will use Coronavirus to inject them with tracking chips..

    Somehow I get the feeling Trump is not the real underlying issue here..
    Another poll found 50% of Trump supporters believe the Democrats are running a child sex trafficing ring

    These people aren't playing with the full deck


  • #4766
    hometruths
    Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,673 ✭✭✭hometruths


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Another poll found 50% of Trump supporters believe the Democrats are running a child sex trafficing ring

    These people aren't playing with the full deck

    Do you have a link for that?


  • #4767
    gimli2112
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,426 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    Pompeo just said he believes there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration. I'm not sure he understands the word transition. The Mexicans may well think they need to build their own wall.


  • #4768
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Inquitus wrote: »
    Did you see her speech, she was rabid in her allegations!

    Couldn’t watch much of it. The state of her.


  • #4769
    Kermit.de.frog
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,118 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    gimli2112 wrote: »
    Pompeo just said he believes there will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration. I'm not sure he understands the word transition. The Mexicans may well think they need to build their own wall.

    https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1326229253508243458

    What part of "you lost" do they not get?


  • #4770
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 8,717 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Billy Mays wrote: »
    Another poll found 50% of Trump supporters believe the Democrats are running a child sex trafficing ring

    These people aren't playing with the full deck

    And 64% of Republicans believed Obama was born in another country.

    Possibly even more crazy and only something I learned recently is that (in 2009) only 6% of American scientists are republican. I mean I figured it would be low, but not that low.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2009/07/09/section-4-scientists-politics-and-religion/


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  • #4771
    namloc1980
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,448 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    .

    The Trumpists will tell us he's joking I suppose. These guys are not even trying to hide what they are up to.


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