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Covid 19 Part XXVIII- 71,942 ROI(2,050 deaths) 51,824 NI (983 deaths) (28/11) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    Please see the data from Pfizer.. and don't read incorrect interpretations from newspapers..

    its not 94 from 43k - as over 10k haven't received their second shot yet....

    Today is a great day for science and humanity. The first set of results from our Phase 3 COVID-19 vaccine trial provides the initial evidence of our vaccine’s ability to prevent COVID-19,” said Dr. Albert Bourla, Pfizer Chairman and CEO. “We are reaching this critical milestone in our vaccine development program at a time when the world needs it most with infection rates setting new records, hospitals nearing over-capacity and economies struggling to reopen. With today’s news, we are a significant step closer to providing people around the world with a much-needed breakthrough to help bring an end to this global health crisis. We look forward to sharing additional efficacy and safety data generated from thousands of participants in the coming weeks.”After discussion with the FDA, the companies recently elected to drop the 32-case interim analysis and conduct the first interim analysis at a minimum of 62 cases. Upon the conclusion of those discussions, the evaluable case count reached 94 and the DMC performed its first analysis on all cases. The case split between vaccinated individuals and those who received the placebo indicates a vaccine efficacy rate above 90%, at 7 days after the second dose. This means that protection is achieved 28 days after the initiation of the vaccination, which consists of a 2-dose schedule. As the study continues, the final vaccine efficacy percentage may vary. The DMC has not reported any serious safety concerns and recommends that the study continue to collect additional safety and efficacy data as planned. The data will be discussed with regulatory authorities worldwide.

    “I want to thank the thousands of people who volunteered to participate in the clinical trial, our academic collaborators and investigators at the study sites, and our colleagues and collaborators around the world who are dedicating their time to this crucial endeavor,” added Bourla. “We could not have come this far without the tremendous commitment of everyone involved.”

    “The first interim analysis of our global Phase 3 study provides evidence that a vaccine may effectively prevent COVID-19. This is a victory for innovation, science and a global collaborative effort,” said Prof. Ugur Sahin, BioNTech co-founder and CEO. “When we embarked on this journey 10 months ago this is what we aspired to achieve. Especially today, while we are all in the midst of a second wave and many of us in lockdown, we appreciate even more how important this milestone is on our path towards ending this pandemic and for all of us to regain a sense of normality. We will continue to collect further data as the trial continues to enroll for a final analysis planned when a total of 164 confirmed COVID-19 cases have accrued. I would like to thank everyone who has contributed to make this important achievement possible.”

    The Phase 3 clinical trial of BNT162b2 began on July 27 and has enrolled 43,538 participants to date, 38,955 of whom have received a second dose of the vaccine candidate as of November 8, 2020. Approximately 42% of global participants and 30% of U.S. participants have racially and ethnically diverse backgrounds. The trial is continuing to enroll and is expected to continue through the final analysis when a total of 164 confirmed COVID-19 cases have accrued. The study also will evaluate the potential for the vaccine candidate to provide protection against COVID-19 in those who have had prior exposure to SARS-CoV-2, as well as vaccine prevention against severe COVID-19 disease. In addition to the primary efficacy endpoints evaluating confirmed COVID-19 cases accruing from 7 days after the second dose, the final analysis now will include, with the approval of the FDA, new secondary endpoints evaluating efficacy based on cases accruing 14 days after the second dose as well. The companies believe that the addition of these secondary endpoints will help align data across all COVID-19 vaccine studies and allow for cross-trial learnings and comparisons between these novel vaccine platforms. The companies have posted an updated version of the study protocol at https://www.pfizer.com/science/coronavirus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,043 ✭✭✭Polar101


    Imagine what the R rate will be if there's a vaccine that's 90% effective. Amazing results.

    Wonder where the EU supply deal is - Irish Times are saying it's under negotation - I had thought it was signed already.
    The US has secured orders for 100 million doses of the shot, with an option to acquire another 500 million, while the UK has an agreement to procure 30 million doses. A deal for the supply of 200 million doses to the EU is under negotiation.
    https://www.irishtimes.com/business/health-pharma/pfizer-and-biontech-s-covid-19-vaccine-found-to-be-90-effective-1.4404356


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    lemonTrees wrote: »
    Just give us today, please. A lot of people need hope.
    Yeah just wilfully lie to yourself there so.

    Pathetic. What's worse is that when my friends and family say they're happy to hear the news about the vaccine, I'm not going to tell them the reality of it at all.

    The news just shouldn't have framed it as this game changing event when it's plainly not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭petes


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Yeah just wilfully lie to yourself there so.

    Pathetic. What's worse is that when my friends and family say they're happy to hear the news about the vaccine, I'm not going to tell them the reality of it at all.

    The news just shouldn't have framed it as this game changing event when it's plainly not.

    So you are saying you know better?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,757 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    I always post this video when there’s vaccine news. Rollout is ready to go, including cold storage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    s1ippy wrote: »
    The news just shouldn't have framed it as this game changing event when it's plainly not.

    Wow, have you even read the actual release?

    It is absolutely massive news.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Yeah just wilfully lie to yourself there so.

    Pathetic. What's worse is that when my friends and family say they're happy to hear the news about the vaccine, I'm not going to tell them the reality of it at all.

    The news just shouldn't have framed it as this game changing event when it's plainly not.

    And yet, all year long, you have trumpeted every bit of bad news you could find, true or not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,401 ✭✭✭h2005


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Yeah just wilfully lie to yourself there so.

    Pathetic. What's worse is that when my friends and family say they're happy to hear the news about the vaccine, I'm not going to tell them the reality of it at all.

    The news just shouldn't have framed it as this game changing event when it's plainly not.

    Late to this but why isn't it game-changing?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭lemonTrees


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Yeah just wilfully lie to yourself there so.

    Pathetic. What's worse is that when my friends and family say they're happy to hear the news about the vaccine, I'm not going to tell them the reality of it at all.

    The news just shouldn't have framed it as this game changing event when it's plainly not.

    I'm not "wilfully lying to myself". I'm listening to the science and i'm liking what i hear. It gives me hope and it gives a lot of people hope. Not saying it's the end of this emergency but why not just be positive for one minute and believe the science


    https://media0.giphy.com/media/xT77Ye9vgKyQ9lqTbq/200.gif


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 105 ✭✭lemonTrees


    Wow, have you even read the actual release?

    It is absolutely massive news.

    It surely is. I would have been happy enough with a 70% success rate but 90% is actually astounding. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    lemonTrees wrote: »
    It surely is. I would have been happy enough with a 70% success rate but 90% is actually astounding. :)

    I don't think anyone expected that, really has taken the science community by surprise from what I can see online


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,784 ✭✭✭froog


    really great news. 90% is amazing.

    i see team trump trying to take credit even though pfizer was not part of operation warp speed or whatever it's called.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,980 ✭✭✭s1ippy


    Considering the covid preventative restrictions being in place during the trial, only 94 out of almost 40,000 people in the study actually contracted covid during phase 3 review. Half of the people in the study received a placebo. That means around 19.9k people who got a placebo didn't get covid. The data set becomes that group of people who did get it, less than, 0.05% of the participants. Around 7 or 8 people who received the vaccine out of the 20,000 contacted covid.

    That low number is good news, but way, way more data needs to come out of this study before we can extrapolate whether it's effective or not. Why did those seven or eight people who were immunised contract covid when the overall rate of transmission in the study was so low?

    Loads of questions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Its great news potentially. Surely will help alot and if immunity is long lasting it could mean the end of any restrictions . The virus should be able to be controlled with better testing in place also. Testing highly likely to improve also. Ireland's decision to bring in retrictions earlier now looking like an even better decision with an effective looking very promising


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,450 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    froog wrote: »
    really great news. 90% is amazing.

    i see team trump trying to take credit even though pfizer was not part of operation warp speed or whatever it's called.

    Yup expected nothing less from them. Pfizer always distanced themselves from them


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,188 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Interesting detail here. Immigrants get the job done and all that https://twitter.com/COdendahl/status/1325793212024360961?s=19


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack




  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    snotboogie wrote: »
    :eek:

    0.06%


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 220 ✭✭holdyerhorses


    s1ippy wrote: »
    Considering the covid preventative restrictions being in place during the trial, only 94 out of almost 40,000 people in the study actually contracted covid during phase 3 review. Half of the people in the study received a placebo. That means around 19.9k people who got a placebo didn't get covid. The data set becomes that group of people who did get it, less than, 0.05% of the participants. Around 7 or 8 people who received the vaccine out of the 20,000 contacted covid.

    That low number is good news, but way, way more data needs to come out of this study before we can extrapolate whether it's effective or not. Why did those seven or eight people who were immunised contract covid when the overall rate of transmission in the study was so low?

    Loads of questions.

    Point of order; vaccination is not immunisation.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭gw80


    Stheno wrote: »
    Wtf is going on up there

    They must be just going around spitting in each other's faces,
    Do they greet each other like in that scene in ace ventura when he goes to the village chief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    gw80 wrote: »
    They must be just going around spitting in each other's faces,
    Do they greet each other like in that scene in ace ventura when he goes to the village chief.

    Einhorn is Foster, Foster is Einhorn


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,505 ✭✭✭sonofenoch


    Is this what they pumped Trump with a few weeks ago? in and out of hospital in a day da kunt :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Stheno wrote: »
    Wtf is going on up there

    Complacency


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,513 ✭✭✭bb1234567


    wadacrack wrote: »

    And they are in lockdown how long now?

    Northern Irish must be showing almost total disregard for restrictions, 470 is pretty much a low point of their new cases for them lately and it's still proportionally far above anything we reported before going to level 5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    And they are in lockdown how long now?

    Northern Irish must be showing almost total disregard for restrictions, 470 is pretty much a low point of their new cases for them lately and it's still proportionally far above anything we reported before going to level 5

    They are not in lockdown... They are in something like our level 3.5


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,016 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    sonofenoch wrote: »
    Is this what they pumped Trump with a few weeks ago? in and out of hospital in a day...

    No, he got Regeneron among other things , which is a trial treatment, not a vaccine .


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,690 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    And they are in lockdown how long now?

    Northern Irish must be showing almost total disregard for restrictions, 470 is pretty much a low point of their new cases for them lately and it's still proportionally far above anything we reported before going to level 5

    Four weeks of level 3.5

    Supposed to being lifted this week


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    bb1234567 wrote: »
    And they are in lockdown how long now?

    Northern Irish must be showing almost total disregard for restrictions, 470 is pretty much a low point of their new cases for them lately and it's still proportionally far above anything we reported before going to level 5

    Their testing rates are less than 50% of down here, would they be looking at higher case figures if they were testing more?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 642 ✭✭✭minggatu


    "The firm that invented the #Pfizer vaccine, Biontech, is a German medical startup founded by the children of Turkish #immigrants: Özlem Türeci (CMO) and Uğur Şahin (CEO)."

    oezlem-tuereci-und-ugur-sahin.jpg


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