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Quantum Erasure · 07-11-2020 01:22PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

Yes it’s the people reporting the crimes that are at fault, not the criminals.

What a bunch of snowflakes.

Who says there's been a crime committed?

Smee_Again · 07-11-2020 01:27PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Who says there's been a crime committed?

It’s an analogy.

Quantum Erasure · 07-11-2020 01:43PM

Smee_Again wrote: »

It’s an analogy.

Yea I know.

Why was 'sleepy Joe' banned?

Why wasn't 'IMPOTUS' ?

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-11-2020 01:49PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Yea I know.

Why was 'sleepy Joe' banned?

Why wasn't 'IMPOTUS' ?

No evidence Biden is "sleepy"

Plenty of evidence that Trump was Impeached

#IMPOTUS = IMpeached POTUS

07-11-2020 02:27PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Who says there's been a crime committed?

trump supporters :-)

Quantum Erasure · 07-11-2020 02:32PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No evidence Biden is "sleepy"

Plenty of evidence that Trump was Impeached

#IMPOTUS = IMpeached POTUS

You're being a wee bit disingenuous there, I feel....

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/george-conway-trump-impotus_n_5dfc6f05e4b0b2520d089ab1?

07-11-2020 02:43PM

The list of threadbanned posters is very one sided..

Beasty · 07-11-2020 02:54PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The list of threadbanned posters is very one sided..

The fact your name appears 3 times certainly sways the balance

TBH you should have picked up forum bans each time you posted when threadbanned, so you are fortunate to even have access to the forum

EDIT - but seeing you continue to post in the thread even today you have now picked up a forum ban

excludedbin · 07-11-2020 03:19PM

Deleted User wrote: »

The list of threadbanned posters is very one sided..

One might hope they'd use it as an opportunity for a little introspection rather than blaming everyone else.

07-11-2020 03:24PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

The list of threadbanned posters is very one sided..

Trump supporters often tend to behave worse, it's a reality tbh.

07-11-2020 03:25PM

It's not like I have been abusive or anything..the odd smart comment in the face of people not arguing honestly, just pushing an agenda..

07-11-2020 03:30PM

Whatever, like, I'll get over it, but should the role of moderators not be to ensure one side of the argument doesn't get shouted down by the other as opposed to weigh in very much on one side of a debate?..

07-11-2020 03:33PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Whatever, like, I'll get over it, but should the role of moderators not be to ensure one side of the argument doesn't get shouted down by the other as opposed to weigh in very much on one side of a debate?..

Moderators have been enforcing the rules stringently on posts from both sides tbh. It's not limited to just one group.

Overheal · 07-11-2020 03:37PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Whatever, like, I'll get over it, but should the role of moderators not be to ensure one side of the argument doesn't get shouted down by the other as opposed to weigh in very much on one side of a debate?..

No if users choose to take an indefensible position, eg. Climate change denial it’s not the role of moderators to make sure there’s a “balanced discussion” between one climate change denier and 30 climate change realists.

Kidchameleon · 07-11-2020 03:37PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Moderators have been enforcing the rules stringently on posts from both sides tbh. It's not limited to just one group.

Agree 100%

07-11-2020 03:40PM

Overheal wrote: »

No if users choose to take an indefensible position, eg. Climate change denial it’s not the role of moderators to make sure there’s a “balanced discussion” between one climate change denier and 30 climate change realists.

So it's mob rule so, is it?

Overheal · 07-11-2020 03:47PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So it's mob rule so, is it?

That’s an awfully misguided and melodramatic way of interpreting what I just said.

What do you want, an “electoral college” style skewing of threads so that the view of 1 denialist = 30 realists? Are the realists only supposed to post 1/30th as often?

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-11-2020 03:48PM

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

You're being a wee bit disingenuous there, I feel....

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/george-conway-trump-impotus_n_5dfc6f05e4b0b2520d089ab1?

It's there in the link you provided.

07-11-2020 03:48PM

Overheal wrote: »

That’s an awfully misguided and melodramatic way of interpreting what I just said.

Just out of interest, have you been reporting posts or have all these bans been the mods taking it upon themselves?..

Overheal · 07-11-2020 03:51PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just out of interest, have you been reporting posts or have all these bans been the mods taking it upon themselves?..

Of course I report posts. Mods here have asked for reports ad infinitum. If you don’t report posts you have little Avenue to complain about actionable posts.

That doesn’t connect with your loaded question mind. My reporting posts does not correlate with mods being able to take their own actions on their own observations.

Beasty · 07-11-2020 03:52PM

This is it wrote: »

It's why I asked if thread bans carry over. How can they be on it 3 times. Twice, maybe. Lifted after the first and banned again, but 3 times.

As the old saying goes; fool me once, strike one, fool me twice, strike three.

I agree. In that case the bans were applied in different variants of the same topic. We state threadbans carry over in each OP. I know we've started listing them in the OP and there are a few threads in the Coronavirus forum where we do the same. It's good practice particularly for these long running multi-threads and wepergaps need to be more consistent on the point

In this case it seems to have been cases of slipping through the net

07-11-2020 03:57PM

How many threadbans are people arguing with overheal?..
You feel like you're banging your head against a wall..
It was the exact same in the BLM and George Floyd threads..

It's ridiculous to let a couple of posters dictate the terms of a thread..

Anyone with an alternate viewpoint either gives up or is banned over frivolous comments that they're driven to by dealing with people who are not listening to any reason, just pushing an agenda..

Beasty · 07-11-2020 03:58PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Whatever, like, I'll get over it, but should the role of moderators not be to ensure one side of the argument doesn't get shouted down by the other as opposed to weigh in very much on one side of a debate?..

One thing you can be assured of is the Trump side of discussions is a hell of a lot louder than the Biden side

And that's not picking sides. It's quite clear and evident in the threads. Of course a lot of Trump supporters and/or indeed posters associating with the extreme right side of politics can and do so in a civil manner. Unfortunately though a much higher proportion seem to tthink it is some kind of slanging match

07-11-2020 04:00PM

Beasty wrote: »

One thing you can be assured of is the Trump side of discussions is a hell of a lot louder than the Biden side

And that's not picking sides. It's quite clear and evident in the threads. Of course a lot of Trump supporters and/or indeed posters associating with the extreme right side of politics can and do so in a civil manner. Unfortunately though a much higher proportion seem to tthink it is some kind of slanging match

What?..are you for real?..like, even there, associating the trump side with 'the extreme right'..

Beasty · 07-11-2020 04:01PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

What?..are you for real?..like, even there, associating the trump side with 'the extreme right'..

I am talking about posting in the forum. I am not engaging in a political discussion on this thread

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-11-2020 04:02PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How many threadbans are people arguing with overheal?..
You feel like you're banging your head against a wall..
It was the exact same in the BLM and George Floyd threads..

It's ridiculous to let a couple of posters dictate the terms of a thread..

Anyone with an alternate viewpoint either gives up or is banned over frivolous comments that they're driven to by dealing with people who are not listening to any reason, just pushing an agenda..

We currently have many Trump supporters claiming electoral fraud. No evidence other than random you tube vids or blogs, trying to refute these claims is (as you say) like "banging your head against a wall".

Responding is akin to "dealing with people who are not listening to any reason" yet very few cards/bans have been handed out simply because people don't get abusive towards them, if anything people go easy on them.

Playing the victim is all well and good but the only person who will get you banned from a thread is (the collective) you.

Overheal · 07-11-2020 04:08PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

How many threadbans are people arguing with overheal?..
You feel like you're banging your head against a wall..
It was the exact same in the BLM and George Floyd threads..

It's ridiculous to let a couple of posters dictate the terms of a thread..

Anyone with an alternate viewpoint either gives up or is banned over frivolous comments that they're driven to by dealing with people who are not listening to any reason, just pushing an agenda..

Don’t at all understand the phrasing of your questions here.

I’m threadbanned from the BLM/WLM thread. The mods aren’t responsible for ensuring there are co equal contingents of pro police vs police brutality commentators and it’s not an entitlement of mine, similarly, to be an ordained police brutality commentator on the thread. It’s just as well IMHO, the thread has moved about as fast as molasses since I left, which seems indicative of the lack of constructive argument on the subject as a whole. People weren’t really progressing the central argument they were just lashing out at anyone who called out police brutality, so, there’s little to be gained from giving it more oxygen.

07-11-2020 04:13PM

I was just asking the mods a question as to how many people threadbanned from the trump Biden thread were in that position due to your reporting of their posts..

07-11-2020 04:19PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I was just asking the mods a question as to how many people threadbanned from the trump Biden thread were in that position due to your reporting of their posts..

How is it relevant if the posts warranted a ban? Also singling out overheal just seems like a personal gripe..

Snake Plisken · 07-11-2020 04:27PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

It's not like I have been abusive or anything..the odd smart comment in the face of people not arguing honestly, just pushing an agenda..

The others love the report button, we have to start using it as mods have suggested and the mods investigate your complaint

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