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US Presidential Election 2020 Thread II - Judgement Day(s)

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  • #3512
    jasonb
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    PA Secretary of State has said there's approx. 500k ballots left and the vast majority could be counted by the end of the day their time.


  • #3513
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭paul71


    Leaving aside the states still not decided, between New York, New Jersey and California there are still 10 million uncounted votes. They will come down heavily in favour of Biden. The popular vote is currently at 2.6 million in favour of Biden, that is going to increase dramatically.


  • #3514
    jasonb
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,406 ✭✭✭jasonb


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Well, this is nothing to worry about *clenches teeth*

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1324454065326026753?s=19

    I assume the whole Cabinet resign when the ruling party are voted out of power? In fact, if the West Wing has thought me anything, they even resign if the incumbent President wins, to save him the embarrassment of having to fire any that he doesn't want in his new cabinet.


  • #3515
    BlitzKrieg
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    https://twitter.com/gtryan/status/1324452644170158086

    Oh an expected trump county in Georgia went the other way in mail ballots. Could be a sign that a flip is on the way


  • #3516
    eire4
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    paul71 wrote: »
    Leaving aside the states still not decided, between New York, New Jersey and California there are still 10 million uncounted votes. They will come down heavily in favour of Biden. The popular vote is currently at 2.6 million in favour of Biden, that is going to increase dramatically.

    No question his final margin of victory in the actual national vote will end up being pretty solid I would say north of 5%.


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  • #3517
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,654 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Philadelphia County have 85k to 90k uncounted mail in votes left


  • #3518
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    85,000-90,000 in Philly. Biden at 80% there.
    Trump's lead will be blown up from Philly alone.


  • #3519
    paul71
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    eire4 wrote: »
    No question his final margin of victory in the actual national vote will end up being pretty solid I would say north of 5%.

    Thats why I mentioned it, the polls were saying 7% or 8%, I think it will be 6%. The issue nationally is not the polls, it is the broken electoral college system. The method used in Maine and Nebraska are the quick fix way of correcting that broken system.


  • #3520
    devnull
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    Christ, this Arizona Press conference from the Republicans is pretty crazy.

    'Fox News Sucks' How quickly they turn! I forgot what Arizona accent sounded like!


  • #3521
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    everlast75 wrote: »
    Well, this is nothing to worry about *clenches teeth*

    https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1324454065326026753?s=19

    And he’s also working with Congress to strip military bases that have confederate generals names of those names. I’d say the atmosphere in the White House the last few days has been something shocking. I know joe Biden has not won yet and it’s still possible however slim for Donald trump to win re-election but the trends aren’t moving enough in trumps favour where he needs to go.


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  • #3522
    Itssoeasy
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    jasonb wrote: »
    I assume the whole Cabinet resign when the ruling party are voted out of power? In fact, if the West Wing has thought me anything, they even resign if the incumbent President wins, to save him the embarrassment of having to fire any that he doesn't want in his new cabinet.

    Well if trump loses then they’d have to resign but not till January 20th at midday and even then there’s someone in charge of all the departments until a new cabinet secretary is appointed.


  • #3523
    eire4
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    paul71 wrote: »
    Thats why I mentioned it, the polls were saying 7% or 8%, I think it will be 6%. The issue nationally is not the polls, it is the broken electoral college system. The method used in Maine and Nebraska are the quick fix way of correcting that broken system.

    Yes I think your likely to be very close with 6% I can see that easily being the final margin when all the votes cast are counted. Totally agree with you on the electoral college system. That is a total joke. Anti-democratic and needs to be done away with. But given the Republicans are now at best a quasi democratic party they will fight tooth and nail to keep it as it is one of the tools they are currently using to stop democracy in the US so they can cling to power.


  • #3524
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »
    Forsyth have about 123,000 votes counted and 95% done.
    That leaves about 6,000 votes left there.

    Interesting interesting. Who is leading there?

    Edit: nevermind, it’s upthread.


  • #3525
    jasonb
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    Trump's lead in PA goes under 100k, now 98k.


  • #3526
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
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    On a side note, those corona virus numbers are desperate and you'd imagine in about 2 weeks there will be a bit of a spike from these elections.


  • #3527
    Itssoeasy
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    Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »
    On a side note, those corona virus numbers are desperate and you'd imagine in about 2 weeks there will be a bit of a spike from these elections.

    They are awful. Well any polling pictures I saw of people standing outside and within the voting places everyone was wearing masks. So hopefully there won’t be spikes because of the in person voting. You’d hope anyway.


  • #3528
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Here’s joe Biden.


  • #3529
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,972 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Envy of the world ? Well about that.


  • #3530
    An Ciarraioch
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    jasonb wrote: »
    Trump's lead in PA goes under 100k, now 98k.

    Apparently 340,000 mail ballots remaining, and as Biden has been getting around 72% of those, he'll easily take the lead.


  • #3531
    mcmoustache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    BlitzKrieg wrote: »
    Oh an expected trump county in Georgia went the other way in mail ballots. Could be a sign that a flip is on the way


    Did somebody convince Republicans that they shouldn't vote by mail or something?


    That might not have been such a good idea.


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  • #3532
    OneColdHand
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    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Did somebody convince Republicans that they shouldn't vote by mail or something?


    That might not have been such a good idea.

    Trump did.


  • #3533
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    Good short and calm speech by Biden. Presidential.

    He knows what he's doing and starting with Covid is clever.


  • #3534
    murpho999
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,765 ✭✭✭✭murpho999


    mcmoustache wrote: »
    Did somebody convince Republicans that they shouldn't vote by mail or something?


    That might not have been such a good idea.

    Trump of course but the result would have been the same but delivered in a different order.

    1 vote is 1 vote.

    Don't forget that Trump also battled to stop postal votes being counted early and that's why we have delays now and now Trump claims they're fraudulent.

    It was all planned by Trump months ago though when he started saying that postal voting would be fradulent and "they're" trying to steal the election.


  • #3535
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
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    murpho999 wrote: »
    Trump of course but the result would have been the same but delivered in a different order.

    1 vote is 1 vote.

    Don't forget that Trump also battled to stop postal votes being counted early and that's why we have delays now and now Trump claims they're fraudulent.

    It was all planned by Trump months ago though when he started saying that postal voting would be fradulent and "they're" trying to steal the election.

    You're giving Trump too much credit there - he is no where near clever enough to have come up with that plan.


  • #3536
    Water John
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    Well DeJoy was doing his work dismantling the postal system. It was a plan but a piss poor one.


  • #3537
    Big Pussy Bonpensiero
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,794 ✭✭✭Big Pussy Bonpensiero


    https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1324461436224053251

    Wow, clearly the Trumps don't give a sh1t about the Republican party. This will be taken to heart by many of his followers.


  • #3538
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,409 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    jasonb wrote: »
    Trump's lead in PA goes under 100k, now 98k.
    Death by a hundred thousand cuts.


  • #3539
    josip
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,733 ✭✭✭✭josip


    An Ciarraioch wrote: »
    Apparently 340,000 mail ballots remaining, and as Biden has been getting around 72% of those, he'll easily take the lead.


    Using those numbers, he'd win by around 40,000 votes which is a clear win, but maybe not easy.
    If that 72% were to drop to less than 65% however, PA would go to Trump based on c. 340,000 remaining and a 98,000 lead.


  • #3540
    paul71
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭paul71


    Water John wrote: »
    Well DeJoy was doing his work dismantling the postal system. It was a plan but a piss poor one.

    Dejoy could be in jail by as early as next week, contempt of court does not require a trial.


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  • #3541
    L1011
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    Big Pussy Bonpensiero wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/EricTrump/status/1324461436224053251

    Wow, clearly the Trumps don't give a sh1t about the Republican party. This will be taken to heart by many of his followers.

    If the Trumps want to split the Republicans for the 2024 elections, let them - FPTP will then give the Democrats a landslide re-election, the House and most or all of the 10 Republican Senate seats up.


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