Schools closed until February? (part 3)

selectamatic · 04-11-2020 11:22PM

If you live with a suspected case you have to restrict your movements until the test result comes back.

Sammy2012 · 04-11-2020 11:24PM

selectamatic wrote: »

If you live with a suspected case you have to restrict your movements until the test result comes back.

My suspected case was just a friend

mvl · 04-11-2020 11:26PM

Teacher2020 wrote: »

This it the kind of nonsense that makes my blood boil. Poor Johnny is complaining of the cold! Yes the union says there is a minimum temperature that has to be met - but these are unprecedented times. Do you think I like to be in a freezing cold classroom? I come every day with my base layer on and countless other layers. We are doing our best to keep schools open and here we have parents giving out about being too cold. The advice I have for you is cop on and tell your child to cop on too. If you don't like it don't send them. I'll give the same advice to any parent who complains about the cold to me.

It makes perfect sense what you are saying, with one exception: when the school has a strict dress code for students. But I decided when it gets cold based on my standards, my daughter would go to school wearing what I see fit, even if that means not following that dress code (this is about the ban on wearing boots in our secondary school).

timeToLive · 04-11-2020 11:59PM

Teacher2020 wrote: »

This it the kind of nonsense that makes my blood boil. Poor Johnny is complaining of the cold! Yes the union says there is a minimum temperature that has to be met - but these are unprecedented times. Do you think I like to be in a freezing cold classroom? I come every day with my base layer on and countless other layers. We are doing our best to keep schools open and here we have parents giving out about being too cold. The advice I have for you is cop on and tell your child to cop on too. If you don't like it don't send them. I'll give the same advice to any parent who complains about the cold to me.

This is the state of our teachers

Blondini · 05-11-2020 12:14AM

timeToLive wrote: »

This is the state of our teachers

One person's opinion does not represent that of all teachers. We are on a spectrum of attitudes and outlooks, just like the general population of which we are a subset.

Mrsmum · 05-11-2020 12:29AM

timeToLive wrote: »

This is the state of our teachers

I agree with the teacher. Take your pick, a cold room or an unventilated one with ventilation being really important to protect against Covid. And as my German neighbour was fond of saying before ever Coronavirus - Irish people dress really badly for bad weather. Mind you I do think, at the moment, children should be allowed any manner of clothing that would keep them warm in school, regardless of uniform rules.

meeeeh · 05-11-2020 10:36AM

timeToLive wrote: »

This is the state of our teachers

What's wrong with that. It's easier to put on another layer than stop spread of covid in unventilated rooms.

wirelessdude01 · 05-11-2020 11:06AM

timeToLive wrote: »

This is the state of our teachers

What exactly is "the state of our teachers"?

eagle eye · 05-11-2020 11:10AM

timeToLive wrote:

This is the state of our teachers

You quite the whole post and come up with that pathetic comment?
Not discussion or questions. What's your angle here, looking for thanks?

frank8211 · 05-11-2020 11:21AM

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40076213.html

DSN · 05-11-2020 12:19PM

Mrsmum wrote: »
I agree with the teacher. Take your pick, a cold room or an unventilated one with ventilation being really important to protect against Covid. And as my German neighbour was fond of saying before ever Coronavirus - Irish people dress really badly for bad weather. Mind you I do think, at the moment, children should be allowed any manner of clothing that would keep them warm in school, regardless of uniform rules.

Agree, my kids not complaining but are layering underneath their uniform these days. My teen I have to make him bring his bloody jacket to school so I will not listen to moaning about the cold! My DD says her teacher in in her big ski jacket which she doesn't take off for the day (don't blame her!) Id say the teachers feel it more than the kids.

Thats me · 05-11-2020 12:49PM

frank8211 wrote: »

Covid-19 outbreaks linked to schools fell by a third during mid-term

They refer some "HPSC figures".. But i haven't found school stats in the datasets. Given it was hundred cases in age group 5-14 yrs reported daily, i'd guess weekly outbreak figures for schools are too "conservartive".

05-11-2020 02:30PM

frank8211 wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40076213.html

Anyone surprised that testing in the last week reduced the number of outbreaks in school? If a student or teacher showed symptoms at any point between Monday the 26th and Sun 1st, no school contacts would have been identified and no followup testing in those settings would have been completed. The 30 cases from last week will primarily be followup form cases detected in schools in the previous two weeks

Thats me · 05-11-2020 02:40PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone surprised that testing in the last week reduced the number of outbreaks in school? If a student or teacher showed symptoms at any point between Monday the 26th and Sun 1st, no school contacts would have been identified and no followup testing in those settings would have been completed. The 30 cases from last week will primarily be followup form cases detected in schools in the previous two weeks

I guessed mid-term outbreak cases were detected because symptoms were produced by affected persons during that week and traced back to schools where contamination happened at earlier dates.

Anyway, i do not believe tracing can be reliable... But it is good the media showing interest to the c19 in schools problem.

treade1 · 05-11-2020 03:14PM

frank8211 wrote: »

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40076213.html

No **** Sherlock!

screamer · 05-11-2020 06:35PM

DSN wrote: »

Agree, my kids not complaining but are layering underneath their uniform these days. My teen I have to make him bring his bloody jacket to school so I will not listen to moaning about the cold! My DD says her teacher in in her big ski jacket which she doesn't take off for the day (don't blame her!) Id say the teachers feel it more than the kids.

Teacher in my DDs school leaves windows and doors open every day. Fine needs ventilation I get it, but she doesn’t allow the kids to wear jackets in class. So, they’re freezing cold. Don’t know how that can be conducive to learning when your numb with the cold.

Smacruairi · 05-11-2020 06:38PM

Yeah that's just silly IMO. Problem with increasingly younger staff as older ones retire, don't have the experience to have cop on and just blindly follow school rules and code of behaviour to get through the day - or to tell the boss to feck off if theyre questioned

FeirmeoirtTed · 05-11-2020 06:48PM

screamer wrote: »

Teacher in my DDs school leaves windows and doors open every day. Fine needs ventilation I get it, but she doesn’t allow the kids to wear jackets in class. So, they’re freezing cold. Don’t know how that can be conducive to learning when your numb with the cold.

I'm not being smart but you should buy your children a fleece and thermal vest to wear under the uniform. Leaving the jacket on in class is no good to them when they go outside. I wear a fleece in class everyday and have told all my kids to do the same it has really only turned cold in the past week so not sure if keeping the windows open all day is going to be sustainable but even if we keep classrrom doors and outside doors open and try get windows open for 25 mins every hour that helps keep the room ventilated and everyone safer.

khalessi · 05-11-2020 07:16PM

I told the kids to layer up and bring coats to my room just in case, it has been freezing a few times but windows and doors will be open for as long as possible. Ive thermals coat and a hot water bottle just in case.

jrosen · 05-11-2020 07:17PM

Base layers/thermal vests. Long sleeved. There are alternatives to coats and probably more comfortable too.

selectamatic · 05-11-2020 09:44PM

selectamatic wrote: »

If you live with a suspected case you have to restrict your movements until the test result comes back.

Sammy2012 wrote: »

My suspected case was just a friend

Apologies only seen this now. I was referring to the staff member in your school. They might live with the suspected case hence why they may have had to restrict their movements.

...Ghost... · 06-11-2020 01:53AM

I found out today from my OH that contact tracing has been wiped out for Teachers. As long as you are wearing a mask and are 1 meter away from a confirmed case, you are not a close contact regardless of time spent with confirmed case. Time to throw in the towel on this. They are intentionally covering up stats which are vital to combatting the pandemic. Worse....they refuse to record the data in the first place.

wirelessdude01 · 06-11-2020 01:54AM

...Ghost... wrote: »

I found out today from my OH that contact tracing has been wiped out for Teachers. As long as you are wearing a mask and are 1 meter away from a confirmed case, you are not a close contact regardless of time spent with confirmed case. Time to throw in the towel on this. They are intentionally covering up stats which are vital to combatting the pandemic. Worse....they refuse to record the data in the first place.

Pretty much the case since the start anyway,

khalessi · 06-11-2020 02:02AM

...Ghost... wrote: »

I found out today from my OH that contact tracing has been wiped out for Teachers. As long as you are wearing a mask and are 1 meter away from a confirmed case, you are not a close contact regardless of time spent with confirmed case. Time to throw in the towel on this. They are intentionally covering up stats which are vital to combatting the pandemic. Worse....they refuse to record the data in the first place.

Yup, anyplace that has windows a door and a teacher wearing a mask has mitigating circumstances.
The only thing to do is argue it and insist about close contacts being tested.

blanch152 · 06-11-2020 11:21AM

...Ghost... wrote: »

I found out today from my OH that contact tracing has been wiped out for Teachers. As long as you are wearing a mask and are 1 meter away from a confirmed case, you are not a close contact regardless of time spent with confirmed case. Time to throw in the towel on this. They are intentionally covering up stats which are vital to combatting the pandemic. Worse....they refuse to record the data in the first place.

Same applies in retail and other workplaces.

Lillyfae · 06-11-2020 11:36AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Same applies in retail and other workplaces.

Ya, isn’t close contact someone you live with?

khalessi · 06-11-2020 11:40AM

blanch152 wrote: »

Same applies in retail and other workplaces.

Other workplaces can still be considered close contacts if they wear a mask. IF teachers wear masks they are not considered close contacts

Smacruairi · 06-11-2020 04:42PM

Lillyfae wrote: »

Ya, isn’t close contact someone you live with?

The clue is in the wording, "close" , "contact" . Not hard really, we were all asked to download apps so that we wouldn't have to remember for ourselves, so if you sat too close on a bus with someone for too long the app would know. Sometimes it's like you intentionally go out of the way to confuse facts.

spending more than 15 minutes of face-to-face contact within 2 metres of someone who has COVID-19, indoor or outdoor
living in the same house or shared accommodation as someone who has COVID-19
sitting within 2 seats of someone who has COVID-19 on public transport or an airplane

Might be different in your country.

downthemiddle · 06-11-2020 06:13PM

Lillyfae wrote: »

Ya, isn’t close contact someone you live with?

The people you live with will, in all probability, be amongst your close contacts. However anyone, with a modicum of knowledge of protocols and procedures, would know that your close contacts are not confined to the people you live with.

downthemiddle · 06-11-2020 06:15PM

blanch152 wrote: »

Same applies in retail and other workplaces.

Really? I'm sure if this is the case you can point out where we will find this definition of close contacts in other workplaces.

Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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