Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

vojiwox wrote: »

Ah I get you yeah. Sounds like a nice 'ol job!

Pictures of a "shebeen" up on twitter the other day, big screen, pool table, stools at the bar. In current climate looked like heaven!

Some of the shebeens are class looking, I got sent a few on whatsapp, no identifying where they are though.
Some serious basement renovations too.
That one in Athy looked unreal (the setup, not the session).

The 'trust bars' are pretty cool too, although mostly nothing more than basics (in the ones I have been in). Usually a TV, bar, dartboard, jacks and a few tables and stools etc. and decorated with a few bar paraphernalia.
I paid up for 3 in the past few months. I have money left in all of them. I haven't gone near any since level 5, a few others may have though.
Trad music in one of them one night I guess it attracted a bit of attention.
Fun though, and would love to be in one of them now.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Gatherings are only an issue if there is an out break in the vicinity.

Most Shebeens encompass literally a handful of people, fairly quite ( almost sober ) affairs. You are talking about a keg set up in the back of an old man's workhouse club, filled with half made carpentry and a few wood clamps. There is no question of a DJ filling the place on Saturday night. Someone may have brought down a laptop or a TV for the match or watching the golf on a Sunday night. If they are lucky they have an electric heater, we are talking about maybe 10 - 15 people sitting in a refurbed portacabin or an old soccer changing room on maybe 1-2 nights a week. No biggie. They are pissing against the wall outside half the time.

Typical outrage response from the ADB.

Just because 10 people are in a room does not mean they are all going to have Covid next week. Get real.

Sure, it’s a small house party. The presence of poor woodwork doesn’t change what you’re describing into something different. It’s a type of house party and you said you’re fine with it. Which, I think, is generally at odds with most of the “open the pubs” types who are pretty opposed to house parties when the pubs are closed.

Suckit wrote: »

But there will be many that will stay away, and many that the 'novelty' will fade off, as well as the expense.
I am not referring to the initial 'rush' as much as a couple of months after opening.

So you agree then that all pubs should have been opened back in July since everyone would have just stopped stopped going after a couple of months anyway.

Suckit wrote: »

Normally I would agree, but things are very different now.
I guess there are a few things to take into consideration, and the pub competition in my town will be very different than it has been in the past.
Right now, there are 5 trust bars operating within a 1 mile radius that I know of (and I am willing to bet that there are many more).
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So basically a load of large organised house parties on a regular basis. No wonder you're against pubs reopening.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Gatherings are only an issue if there is an out break in the vicinity.

Most Shebeens encompass literally a handful of people, fairly quite ( almost sober ) affairs. You are talking about a keg set up in the back of an old man's workhouse club, filled with half made carpentry and a few wood clamps. There is no question of a DJ filling the place on Saturday night. Someone may have brought down a laptop or a TV for the match or watching the golf on a Sunday night. If they are lucky they have an electric heater, we are talking about maybe 10 - 15 people sitting in a refurbed portacabin or an old soccer changing room on maybe 1-2 nights a week. No biggie. They are pissing against the wall outside half the time.

Typical outrage response from the ADB.

Just because 10 people are in a room does not mean they are all going to have Covid next week. Get real.

Exactly the same applies to pubs. There a plenty of pubs around that would be most of the time hosting the same group of regulars. In an environment subject to regulations and inspections. As opposed to 15 people sitting in a portacabin.

The non food pubs can forget about it. They were open for 4 weeks in my town. I bought 3 pints in 2 visits. It was depressing.
It will be a long time before normal pubs are allowed to serve unresticted. By then, people's habits will have been changed.

Scoondal wrote: »

The non food pubs can forget about it. They were open for 4 weeks in my town. I bought 3 pints in 2 visits. It was depressing.
It will be a long time before normal pubs are allowed to serve unresticted. By then, people's habits will have been changed.

And, if so, people's habits will change back.

So what are the basics now during this lockdown?

Food, tick,

Babies and growing kids clothing... tick I think?

DIY, Oh yeah man.

Halloween stuff, perhaps on the fly.

Drink, definitely either in supermarkets or off licenses.

Doesn't matter, hopefully we will get down to a low level after the six weeks and can have a blowout for the Christmas.

Next lockdown is February, because in fairness who the heck leaves the house in January lol.

Open the Pubs wrote: »

What is the latest with pubs in England, are theirs still open with curfew? How come other countries can keep bars and pubs open but we can't?

Turns out they can't!

Closing as part of a full lockdown.

Germany full lockdown as of Monday. Restaurants, pubs, gyms, cinemas, theatres etc. closed. Hotels closed to tourists, only open for essentials. Shops open but 'fewer than one person per 10sqm.

really will savour when pubs and nightclubs come back whenever that is in a few years time, i will really savour those nights out. just thinking of those hedonistic days last xmas and spring , even in that time i knew how lucky i was to be single , childless and the world my oyster, these last few months have been the great leveller for those like me who kind of have it all in the socialising sector compared with the smug married with kids group, i find these are the ones now who really dont mind the pubs shut once they have the bottle of vino when juniors are tucked up in bed. whereas i should at this time be well on my way to sloshed having had a cracking evening watching sport and talking bolllix to any barflys i cornered!

you would think the lockdown would have made me feel like settling choosoing life, it actually has seen the opposite , i definitley am going for another ride on the merry go round of party nights when this passes. i really now realise how much i loved those nights out

PTH2009 wrote: »

Feel the same way as you, would love to have the option of going out for a few pints and enjoy life. Suppose its the way of life seeing all those around us grow up and have children becoming a little smug esp in these hard times.

This whole thing is focussing on house parties/gatherings etc not even thinking out how single people feel. The whole counselling suggestion thing of 'why don't you join a hobby group and meet new people etc' is gone in these ****ty times.

Lads, nobody is being smug about their life at the moment. This is just yourselves projecting our insecurities. Everyone would love to go out for a few pints and enjoy ourselves.

The absence of pubs might leave a bigger hole in some people's lives than others. But that's not a function of the other people's smugness, its most likely just about how much you relied on one thing for a lot of our life. It's not about other people.