Who is Ireland's worst journalist?

keano_afc · 30-10-2020 8:39pm

Can only assume Ellen Coyne hasn't got a mention because she's a cheap activist rather than a journalist. I'm still nominating her though.

And Barry Egan, obviously.

Galwayguy35 · 30-10-2020 8:43pm

Amanda Brunker.

She isn't a great singer either.

Rodney Bathgate · 30-10-2020 8:47pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Amanda Brunker.

She isn't a great singer either.

You needed to get that off your chest...

Jim Root · 30-10-2020 8:48pm

Una, always Una.

Galwayguy35 · 30-10-2020 8:53pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

You needed to get that off your chest...

Maybe thats why her articles are so bad, the funbags always get in the way.

Outkast_IRE · 30-10-2020 9:01pm

davo2001 wrote: »

She's an author (and a bad one at that amongst other things), definitely not a journalist

Tell that to her Irish examiner articles I have the misfortune of coming across every week

.anon. · 30-10-2020 9:07pm

Dial Hard wrote: »

Leo Sherlock.

Although describing him as a journalist is probably pushing it.

He's just a lad with a Wordpress blog who bought himself a load of Facebook followers.

JustAThought · 30-10-2020 9:14pm

RTE

All of them & their lazy trough foddering writing & government kowtowing ‘journalistic’ ways.

Thelonious Monk · 30-10-2020 9:15pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Patrick Kenny is in no way, shape, or form a leftie.

Yeah that's a gas thing to say. He didn't want plebs building apartments near him and he absolutely hates cyclists. Which is generally right wing Clarkson type carry on.

MrMusician18 · 30-10-2020 9:24pm

I'll tell you who, Rod Liddle!

ShineOn7 · 30-10-2020 9:25pm

How do I Control "F" this thread for "Zara King"?

Chinasea · 30-10-2020 9:30pm

Sean Moncrief and Kitty Holland.

Kermit.de.frog · 30-10-2020 9:33pm

storker · 30-10-2020 9:45pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

It requires effort on his part to obtain the information though.

Unlike the journalists to see now, copying people's twitter feeds and reddit posts

Good point. The underworld isn't in the habit of handing out press briefings for the hacks to regurgitate.

Fann Linn · 30-10-2020 9:54pm

cj maxx wrote: »

There was a sports writer ( I can’t remember his name ) who it was a chore to read . In the SW I think . All he did was write in Similes . He probably thought it was great prose

There was a sports writer(I can remember his name) who was a pleasure to read. In the Evening Press, he wrote in similes and it was great prose.

Con Houlihan was his name.
RIP

ShineOn7 · 30-10-2020 10:06pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Amanda Brunker.

Surely the likes of her are just fronts for journalist ghostwriters?

JasonStatham · 30-10-2020 10:52pm

Probably Matt Cooper. He's annoying af. Doesn't he have some show lately.. Ireland Vs Trump. Yeah cos the whole country wants to be Vs Trump

(not a Trump supporter btw)

its_steve116 · 30-10-2020 11:49pm

Barry Egan, if you can call him one

Rodney Bathgate · 30-10-2020 11:52pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

he absolutely hates cyclists.

He has just gone up in my estimation.

Thelonious Monk · 31-10-2020 12:11am

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

He has just gone up in my estimation.

ah here leave it ou'!

jmlad2020 · 31-10-2020 12:18am

Tanya Sweeney, Irish Times

FTA69 · 31-10-2020 12:23am

It’s easier to list the ones who aren’t rubbish.

Pretty much anyone writing in the Independent with the exception of Gene Kerrigan is a hack with no regard for journalism or integrity.

Paul Williams peddles nonsense from the Garda press office as news and seems to spend his time tearing the wire off himself to the antics of scrotes and scumbags. I was at a barbecue once with an Irish lad who was banging on about how ballsy and brilliant he is I had to f*ck off into the kitchen my head was so addled.

Fintan O’Toole is a pretentious, musing pain in the hole. Kevin Myers is like some hooray Henry caricature saying sh*t for effect.

I can’t stand any of them really.

friendlyfun · 31-10-2020 6:15am

I would say probably Leo Sherlock but propagandist is probably more apt for him. Then I'd say some someone like Una Mullally for IT.

Hangdogroad · 31-10-2020 6:26am

Has Eilis O Hanlon been mentioned yet? Another relic from the Fanning days.

31-10-2020 6:30am

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Ian O’Doherty. Angry white man with opinions fires out simplistic solutions and sound bites to complex issues.

He used to be hilarious. Has got very neutered in recent years. Wonder if he is scared of getting fired from his job in a dying industry.

31-10-2020 6:33am

Billy Keane's ramblings were meant to be whimsical folly in the sports pages, but mostly ended up being unfunny and boring.

Hangdogroad · 31-10-2020 6:39am

Deleted User wrote: »

He used to be hilarious. Has got very neutered in recent years. Wonder if he is scared of getting fired from his job in a dying industry.

Maybe he cant find good coke anymore.

The Orb · 31-10-2020 7:27am

Roisin Ingle, I don't see the point of her columns, empty ramblings saying nothing.

The Black Oil · 31-10-2020 10:46am

Smee_Again wrote: »

David Quinn.

Although he’s possibly not a journalist, more of an opinion writer/columnist.

Full time lobbyist*, really.

Dose of persecution complex too, standard fare with Iona and Catholic Right.

Covid has probably raised his profile online as he goes to the briefings and seems generally unhappy with the country's response, NPHET, both overall and re access to Mass/worship, etc. I sense he's more provocative on Twitter because he knows he can troll there in the way he's less unlikely to get away with in an interview format.

*As are some of his counterparts on the other end of the spectrum.

31-10-2020 11:58am

Just reading through Sarah Carey's Twitter timeline...

A journalist who thinks it's mandatory to have bank account to receive welfare payments.

And if your child's shoes get too small, just cut the toes out of them.

https://twitter.com/sarahcareyIRL/status/1322288276221341705

https://twitter.com/sarahcareyIRL/status/1322287155566313473

Triangle · 31-10-2020 12:43pm

FTA69 wrote: »

It’s easier to list the ones who aren’t rubbish.

Pretty much anyone writing in the Independent with the exception of Gene Kerrigan is a hack with no regard for journalism or integrity.

Paul Williams peddles nonsense from the Garda press office as news and seems to spend his time tearing the wire off himself to the antics of scrotes and scumbags. I was at a barbecue once with an Irish lad who was banging on about how ballsy and brilliant he is I had to f*ck off into the kitchen my head was so addled.

Fintan O’Toole is a pretentious, musing pain in the hole. Kevin Myers is like some hooray Henry caricature saying sh*t for effect.

I can’t stand any of them really.

Lol, I have to agree. After years of reading it, it's turned into click bait, sensationist, tabloid garbage.

dxhound2005 · 31-10-2020 1:04pm

FTA69 wrote: »

It’s easier to list the ones who aren’t rubbish.

Pretty much anyone writing in the Independent with the exception of Gene Kerrigan is a hack with no regard for journalism or integrity.

Paul Williams peddles nonsense from the Garda press office as news and seems to spend his time tearing the wire off himself to the antics of scrotes and scumbags. I was at a barbecue once with an Irish lad who was banging on about how ballsy and brilliant he is I had to f*ck off into the kitchen my head was so addled.

Fintan O’Toole is a pretentious, musing pain in the hole. Kevin Myers is like some hooray Henry caricature saying sh*t for effect.

I can’t stand any of them really.

Kerrigan is the worst of that lot. Of course I never read any of his stuff, I just know that.

storker · 31-10-2020 1:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Billy Keane's ramblings were meant to be whimsical folly in the sports pages, but mostly ended up being unfunny and boring.

After trying to get sense from a couple of his articles, I gave up and assumed he was smoking something a bit too potent.

whisky_galore · 31-10-2020 1:09pm

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yeah that's a gas thing to say. He didn't want plebs building apartments near him and he absolutely hates cyclists. Which is generally right wing Clarkson type carry on.

Half the country hates cyclists to be fair.

JohnnyFlash · 31-10-2020 1:40pm

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Kerrigan is the worst of that lot. Of course I never read any of his stuff, I just know that.

Kerrigan has been writing the same article for 30 years. You could get a bot to generate them at this stage.

Take something that went on this week; complain about everyone and everything; offer no solutions, rinse and repeat.

McGinniesta · 31-10-2020 2:03pm

Fiona Looney.

McGinniesta · 31-10-2020 2:06pm

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Amanda Brunker.

She isn't a great singer either.

I'd ride her.

McGinniesta · 31-10-2020 2:14pm

Roy Curtis. He's brutal. I don't know how he gets away with it. Although having said that, there are plenty of other really poor sports journalists here too.

cj maxx · 31-10-2020 4:56pm

cj maxx wrote: »

There was a sports writer ( I can’t remember his name ) who it was a chore to read . In the SW I think . All he did was write in Similes . He probably thought it was great prose

Roy Curtis

cj maxx · 31-10-2020 4:58pm

McGinniesta wrote: »

Roy Curtis. He's brutal. I don't know how he gets away with it. Although having said that, there are plenty of other really poor sports journalists here too.

That’s who I was thinking of and just remembered his name. I get a headache trying to read his stories

Walking_Wolf · 31-10-2020 10:53pm

Michael Smith

Halenvaneddie · 31-10-2020 10:56pm

That cycling dude Paul Kimmage
Bitter and sour

storker · 01-11-2020 12:14pm

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Kerrigan has been writing the same article for 30 years. You could get a bot to generate them at this stage.

Take something that went on this week; complain about everyone and everything; offer no solutions, rinse and repeat.

To be fair, it's not his job to offer solutions. That's the job of our highly-paid leaders...who often give every appearance of not seeing that anything is wrong in the first place.

kstand · 01-11-2020 12:28pm

Una Mullally.

Sport - Martin Breheny.

Nexytus · 01-11-2020 12:33pm

storker wrote: »

To be fair, it's not his job to offer solutions. That's the job of our highly-paid leaders...who often give every appearance of not seeing that anything is wrong in the first place.

It might be the job of our elected government among others to implement solutions. But identifying, suggesting or just noticing solutions would fall within the remit of anyone putting themselves forward as a commentator/analyst/expert on society and the economy. If they cannot impart or characterise a working model as alternative then what credibility has their running down the supposed deficiencies of what they think is not working.

storker · 01-11-2020 1:28pm

Nexytus wrote: »

It might be the job of our elected government among others to implement solutions. But identifying, suggesting or just noticing solutions would fall within the remit of anyone putting themselves forward as a commentator/analyst/expert on society and the economy. If they cannot impart or characterise a working model as alternative then what credibility has their running down the supposed deficiencies of what they think is not working.

Nonsense. I don't need to be a mechanic to know when my car won't start. I don't need to be a doctor to know when I'm running a fever, and you don't need to have the solution in order to be able to identify a problem. That kind of logic seems to be preferred by the of the people who don't care about the problem to begin with.

imme · 01-11-2020 1:35pm

Tabnabs wrote: »

Una Mullally, although technically classed as a "contributor" :pac:

I love the way her Irish Times online headlines are so screamy and wailing.
They seem to give free rein to go on about whatever she is moved by.

Editing is something I'd highlight more than journalism in the current media context.

Nexytus · 01-11-2020 2:00pm

storker wrote: »

Nonsense. I don't need to be a mechanic to know when my car won't start. I don't need to be a doctor to know when I'm running a fever, and you don't need to have the solution in order to be able to identify a problem. That kind of logic seems to be preferred by the of the people who don't care about the problem to begin with.

Is that the type and standard of journalism and commentary that you want?

"The world is terrible. I don't know how or why. But the lads in the overalls should be able to fix it. Oh woah is me isn't everything terrible"

That amounts to fruitless, impotent whining.

Thankfully most journalists don't agree with you and offer alternatives, different ideas, proposed solutions etc. They might be good, bad or indifferent and many will disagree but at least they are not pointless whingers.

Poor Uncle Tom · 01-11-2020 2:00pm

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

And some oddball will be along to complain about “angry men” if too many female journalists are mentioned.

Thanks for mansplaining Rodney...:D:D

storker · 01-11-2020 2:10pm

Nexytus wrote: »

Is that the type and standard of journalism and commentary that you want?

"The world is terrible. I don't know how or why. But the lads in the overalls should be able to fix it. Oh woah is me isn't everything terrible"

I don't recall ever reading an article like that. Perhaps you could provide a link to it?

That amounts to fruitless, impotent whining.

The first step in solving any problem is in recognizing that there is one.

Thankfully most journalists don't agree with you and offer alternatives, different ideas, proposed solutions etc. They might be good, bad or indifferent and many will disagree but at least they are not pointless whingers.

I'm not saying that journalists shouldn't offer solutions if they believe they have them. What I am saying is that the lack of a proposed solution does not invalidate the identification of the problem (except for those who want it to and are just scrabbling around for some ammunition to shoot the messenger with).

Who is Ireland's worst journalist?

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