People losing the rag over Adele’s weight loss

Piehead · 30-10-2020 1:04pm #1

Some mad stuff going on here. Some people are aghast that one of their own decided to reduce calorie intake and exercise to lose weight ! Shock horror ! Who knew this is how to lose weight ???

https://m.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/i-have-been-struggling-to-even-look-at-adele-2fms-louise-mcsharry-on-singers-drastic-weight-loss-39668749.html

https://m.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/newsflash-adele-doesnt-owe-you-an-explanation-for-her-weight-loss-39685445.html

Atlantic Dawn · 30-10-2020 1:05pm

Some people cantvunderstandvits just a numbers game, eat less, do more, drop weight, simple.

Jimmy Bottlehead · 30-10-2020 1:10pm

Louise McSharry wrote:

“I have been struggling to even look at Adele and it is not that I feel she owes me anything or that she should have a certain type of body.

“I feel passionately that people should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies...

“I have found it hard, it is about me, she was one of us and it feels a little bit like a loss.

“And it is not about her at all, it is about how women like us are represented in the media. I just wanted to mention it because I know there will be others who feel this way.

“Good for Adele, you do you babes, you do whatever you want with your body...I just don’t think there should ever be an article about how thin or how fat someone is.”

"I just don’t think there should ever be an article about how thin or how fat someone is", she says in an article about how thin or fat someone is.

30-10-2020 1:11pm

Piehead wrote: »

Not all but certainly a large proportion of fat people are extremely lazy and weak willed. Too busy gorging on spicebags and cans in from of the tv to lose any weight

The compassion is strong with this one.

Jenna James · 30-10-2020 1:17pm

Is this woman for real? She needs to talk to a therapist about her very valid feelings on this topic and not the media.

Jenna James · 30-10-2020 1:18pm

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

"I just don’t think there should ever be an article about how thin or how fat someone is", she says in an article about how thin or fat someone is.

Unbelievable. :rolleyes:

Fann Linn · 30-10-2020 1:19pm

Piehead wrote: »

Not all but certainly a large proportion of fat people are extremely lazy and weak willed. Too busy gorging on spicebags and cans in from of the tv to lose any weight

Says Piehead.
Hehehehe.

KungPao · 30-10-2020 1:21pm

“I feel passionately that people should be able to do whatever they want with their bodies...

“I have found it hard, it is about me, she was one of us and it feels a little bit like a loss.

I felt the same way when Robert Downey Jr gave up the demon drink and went all healthy.

Traitor.

Necro · 30-10-2020 1:23pm

Mod:

This thread started on a bad note and isn't going to end well. Closed.

Necro · 30-10-2020 2:59pm

Mod:

Against my better judgement, after discussion with the OP this thread will be reopened. No need for the inflammatory language though, I've deleted a number of posts that are just plain nasty.

Keep it civil and maybe this discussion can continue.

ChikiChiki · 30-10-2020 3:06pm

That Louise McSharry article is ridiculous. Put the work in Louise and you will get the same results and a better, healthier life.

Thierry12 · 30-10-2020 3:06pm

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Some people cantvunderstandvits just a numbers game, eat less, do more, drop weight, simple.

We do like to over complicate things

KaneToad · 30-10-2020 3:07pm

Being fat/overweight is not good. It is bad for your health and has implications for our health services - which, we now see, sail close to the wind.

Plus size is fat.

Body positivity is great. Being positive about being very overweight is not.

Fat shaming is bullying. Obesity and socioeconomic status are correlated. More needs to be done to improve the quality of food that is sold for human consumption. Calories on menus is a good idea. Sugar tax is a good idea.

Obese parents who raise obese kids should be referred to TUSLA.

30-10-2020 3:08pm

I can understand why she'd feel that way but I don't understand why she'd talk about it publicly.

seamus · 30-10-2020 3:10pm

This whole topic is a weird one on Twitter. Of course, everyone is free to be who they want to be. To be whatever size they want, to not be ridiculed because they're overweight.

But there's this odd little enclave who have latched onto obesity as a form of identity and freedom of expression. They consider being overweight as some kind of "freedom", from social norms, or social pressure, or whatever. They post whatever they can find that supports their obesity as a good thing, and will attack any article that suggests that being a normal weight is better for you. Calling it "fatphobia".

Thus, when someone prominent loses a lot of weight, they feel that's some kind of attack on their core identity. Like your Catholic friend now declaring they're an atheist, someone saying they don't eat meat, or a British person refusing to wear a poppy.

It causes this bizarre crisis of identity; they feel judged, personally attacked, by a decision that someone else has made for themselves. And rather than just move on and deal with their own sh1te, they attack the person for daring to make their own decisions.

There's nowt queerer than folk.

Wibbs · 30-10-2020 3:19pm

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

"I just don’t think there should ever be an article about how thin or how fat someone is", she says in an article about how thin or fat someone is.

There's a certain cohort of journalists who populate the opinion pages who have a staggering lack of self awareness, so this is not a shock, indeed it it to be expected. It is also to be found to a large proportion among their readership so it sells.

s1ippy · 30-10-2020 3:22pm

"One of our own" makes it sound like a racial thing. Being overweight is something you can change, hence why persecution is more accepted, rightly or wrongfully.

In my early twenties I hit the beer fairly hard, drinking every night of the week because I was gigging. I've had more free pints and lockins than most people have had hot dinners. But you get to a point where you have to look at yourself in the mirror and decide that you want to have more energy, the hangovers are getting bad, it's something you want to enjoy in moderation! Now I have about twelve quality units a week and savour the faic out of them.

I'm pretty sure the same thing happened with Adele, especially cos she has kids now. She used go wrong off the tins.

Definitely don't disparage the woman for it. Definitely don't disown her from some fat club you've invented because of your own shortcomings.

30-10-2020 3:27pm

You see this sort of thing with many unhealthy things. Like two alcoholics and when one stops, the other loses that safety net of "it's not just me". I don't think it's necessarily about identity. It's fandom where it's an overweight relating to their idol and then when they do something about it, it hits home.

jam_mac_jam · 30-10-2020 3:31pm

God poor Adele. She can't win. Constantly talked about for her weight for years. She losses weight and that's a problem too.

Maybe leave people alone and stop judging other people's bodies.

And fair play to her. She looks fantastic.

Women really can be their own worst enemies.

Jimbob1977 · 30-10-2020 3:35pm

She has taken steps to improve her health

What's wrong with that? Most of us can take a leaf out of her book.

Godspeed Adele

Thierry12 · 30-10-2020 3:37pm

She looks unreal now

Nice face, good body, nice fit looking blond woman now

They are just jealous imo

Adele was always attractive was just too heavy, shes attractive now and all the jealousy

Thelonious Monk · 30-10-2020 3:38pm

That McSharry one used to have an article on thejournal about makeup, and I used to think it was some kind of joke at the start because of what she was advising people to do with their faces. Absolutely caked in awful looking makeup. She's hardly in a position to be moaning about images being portrayed in the media when she's encouraging young ones to buy all of that slap.

ThewhiteJesus · 30-10-2020 3:49pm

I think she looks amazing, i always thought she was pretty but now she looks so much better,
and healthier as we should all aim to be.
Instead of moaning at her, people should follow her example.
More power to her i say and anyone who puts in the graft

30-10-2020 3:50pm

I think she looks weird without the weight..

Aongus Von Bismarck · 30-10-2020 3:52pm

Does she still sound like a fishwife selling oysters and jellied eels in Billingsgate Market?

AllForIt · 30-10-2020 4:07pm

"Fat Positivity" should be outlawed like Gay Conversion Therapy.

Thelonious Monk · 30-10-2020 4:08pm

Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »

Does she still sound like a fishwife selling oysters and jellied eels in Billingsgate Market?

If you mean an Indian/Bangladeshi man, which most of the stalls in B-gate were manned by last time I was there, then no.

Hangdogroad · 30-10-2020 5:07pm

seamus wrote: »

This whole topic is a weird one on Twitter. Of course, everyone is free to be who they want to be. To be whatever size they want, to not be ridiculed because they're overweight.

But there's this odd little enclave who have latched onto obesity as a form of identity and freedom of expression. They consider being overweight as some kind of "freedom", from social norms, or social pressure, or whatever. They post whatever they can find that supports their obesity as a good thing, and will attack any article that suggests that being a normal weight is better for you. Calling it "fatphobia".

Thus, when someone prominent loses a lot of weight, they feel that's some kind of attack on their core identity. Like your Catholic friend now declaring they're an atheist, someone saying they don't eat meat, or a British person refusing to wear a poppy.

It causes this bizarre crisis of identity; they feel judged, personally attacked, by a decision that someone else has made for themselves. And rather than just move on and deal with their own sh1te, they attack the person for daring to make their own decisions.

There's nowt queerer than folk.

Yep, that comedian Sophie Hagan is a prime example. She had a go at Cancer Research for a poster campaign that listed obesity as one of the major factors in cancer because they were "body shaming" or something.

seamusk84 · 30-10-2020 5:13pm

FYI her transformation was due to sticking to the Sirt Food Diet apparently. Co-Created by an Irish Nutritionist.

https://www.insider.com/creator-of-adeles-rumored-sirtfood-diet-stop-obsessing-over-calories-2020-7

https://metro.co.uk/2020/10/25/adele-weight-loss-what-is-the-sirtfood-diet-and-is-there-a-sirtfood-diet-recipe-book-13476892/

GingerLily · 30-10-2020 5:13pm

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

"I just don’t think there should ever be an article about how thin or how fat someone is", she says in an article about how thin or fat someone is.

She didn't interview for or write that article.

Rothko · 30-10-2020 5:24pm

Clearly people just lashing out due to jealousy.

Piehead · 30-10-2020 5:24pm

GingerLily wrote: »

She didn't interview for or write that article.

Not much difference between writing an article
or having a personal rant on a national radio station tbf

30-10-2020 5:26pm

Fair play to Adele, looks great.

Gruffalux · 30-10-2020 5:46pm

Had a peek at the article. Not so long ago in car I had the misfortune to catch the first while of Today FM news after 4.30. There were some guests on, don't know their names. They talked about things like Kim Kardashians hologram father appearing at her birthday, whether or not potties and socks were essential items and then they started in on Donald Trump. Then I have a peek at that article. I start the weekend knowing for sure that Idiocracy has become real life. How has it come to this. Our brains have been co-opted.

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts · 30-10-2020 5:48pm

It’s an insidious part of the “body positivity” movement. Anyone who loses weight is seen as a traitor. There is denial that obesity is unhealthy.

Piehead · 30-10-2020 5:49pm

Gruffalux wrote: »

Had a peek at the article. Not so long ago in car I had the misfortune to catch the first while of Today FM news after 4.30. There were some guests on, don't know their names. They talked about things like Kim Kardashians hologram father appearing at her birthday, whether or not potties and socks were essential items and then they started in on Donald Trump. Then I have a peek at that article. I start the weekend knowing for sure that Idiocracy has become real life. How has it come to this. Our brains have been co-opted.

That’s why Trump winning again would be a good thing. He is an antidote to this nonsense.

Gruffalux · 30-10-2020 6:16pm

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

It’s an insidious part of the “body positivity” movement. Anyone who loses weight is seen as a traitor. There is denial that obesity is unhealthy.

Body positivity is part of Identity Politics. Entwined with gender theory and all that bollox. Thin privilege is a thing in some circles.

ablelocks · 30-10-2020 6:24pm

Piehead wrote: »

That’s why Trump winning again would be a good thing. He is an antidote to this nonsense.

jaysus.

he's about as much an antidote to this nonsense as drinking bleach is to covid.

Wibbs · 30-10-2020 6:26pm

Piehead wrote: »

That’s why Trump winning again would be a good thing. He is an antidote to this nonsense.

If so - and I don't buy it myself, as he's just as much a product of this divisive madness - then it's a perfect example of the cure being worse than the disease.

Junkyard Tom · 30-10-2020 7:07pm

'If you don't be lovin' me at me fattest, you sure as hell don't deserve me at me bestest'

Mahatma Gandhi.

iamstop · 30-10-2020 7:30pm

Worst article I've read in a long time.

jmlad2020 · 30-10-2020 7:38pm

Good on Adele for taking control of her life and going down the healthy route. If you think of it from an Environmental viewpoint she isn't eating 3 humans worth of food anymore, but one. Good for the planet and for her health.

rtron · 30-10-2020 7:40pm

Possessions are fleeting

30-10-2020 8:00pm

Weight gain and loss are often complex issues and that gets lost in these kinds of threads. Yes it is "easy" to lose weight by restricting calorie intake but that doesn't take in to account the reason why the person might be overweight in the first place. There can be a lot of mental health issues connected to obesity. The relationship some of us have with food isn't straightforward.

It is the same for extreme weight loss. Anorexia gets sympathy but obesity doesn't yet they are both dangerous conditions and symptomatic of something deeper.

I don't like any kind of division among people. While I can see and accept the complexities of disordered eating I have no time for "not a real woman" or any kind of body shaming.
My own body image can be pretty terrible and I would love to be slimmer. That's me though. It's for me to work through. It doesn't mean I view thin women as "not real" or curvy women in a negative light.

Interestingly I lost a friend not too long ago because she said I found "weight repulsive". I nearly fell off the chair with the shock. For her as a curvy woman she some how equated my negative image and chat to such a belief. It made me feel really sad that I lost who I thought was a good friend. It is just an indication though of how tricky the whole weight thing can be.

weldoninhio · 30-10-2020 8:19pm

Some people are just big boned.

Although as Billy Connolly said, I’ve never seen a skeleton with a giant arse bone or a massive belly bone.

JasonStatham · 30-10-2020 10:01pm

Piehead wrote: »

Some mad stuff going on here. Some people are aghast that one of their own decided to reduce calorie intake and exercise to lose weight ! Shock horror ! Who knew this is how to lose weight ???

https://m.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/i-have-been-struggling-to-even-look-at-adele-2fms-louise-mcsharry-on-singers-drastic-weight-loss-39668749.html

https://m.independent.ie/style/celebrity/celebrity-news/newsflash-adele-doesnt-owe-you-an-explanation-for-her-weight-loss-39685445.html

How many of them complaining are women? That will tell you all you need to know.

Kaybaykwah · 30-10-2020 10:09pm

She looks good. Good for her.

Now, if she could just trim down the loud cursor...

Hego Damask · 30-10-2020 10:41pm

Hangdogroad wrote: »

Yep, that comedian Sophie Hagan is a prime example. She had a go at Cancer Research for a poster campaign that listed obesity as one of the major factors in cancer because they were "body shaming" or something.

Yes that was unreal, she actually called them c*nts.

Piehead · 31-10-2020 1:50pm

Hego Damask wrote: »

Yes that was unreal, she actually called them c*nts.

Outrageous

Daisy78 · 31-10-2020 3:27pm

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

God poor Adele. She can't win. Constantly talked about for her weight for years. She losses weight and that's a problem too.

Maybe leave people alone and stop judging other people's bodies.

And fair play to her. She looks fantastic.

Women really can be their own worst enemies.

There will come a day when it will no longer be acceptable, not that it ever was, to critique/judge/analyse/comment on a woman’s appearance in the media which I eagerly await. She was grand before, she is fine now with less weight, if she puts it all back on she will still be fine. There is a global pandemic, heightened racial tensions in the US, a US presidential election due and ongoing terrorist attacks in France, you would think journalists and social media nobodies would have more important things to discuss than tear apart some poor woman over her looks.

Munstergirl854 · 31-10-2020 3:59pm

She looks fantastic.It is a long disciplined road both emotionally and physically to lose a lot of weight.She can be proud of herself.It must be a great feeling after years of being on the plus side to be free to experiment with clothes,fashion & wear a slinky dress.
As for the people who say she looks unrecognisable,shedding fat from your face will do that.
My brother used to be overweight and he lost multiple stone,he now has cheekbones to rival Kate Moss.Changes the shape of your face and how you look but it can make some people look drawn or gaunt.

People losing the rag over Adele’s weight loss

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