Lock down Go Safe Vans

28-10-2020 9:33am #1

I noticed this the last lock down as well, and it seems to be the same this time around. Now that the network traffic has reduced considerably the Go Safe vans are much more prevalent on the still relatively busy motorways. Not only more prevalent, but also in places that would not be the usual haunt. Fish/Barrel/Quotas come to mind.

Go Safe Vans are far less visible during the hours of dark, especially placed in dark areas just after a lit up section due to eyes getting used to darkness again and the light absorption quality of the Go Safe Van paint.

This morning around 06:30 on the M7 just passed the Birdhill junction going to Dublin was a Go Safe Van. I passed at a 130 km ph cruise control setting, 124 km ph GPS and I was passed the van before seeing it.

I'd say it's borderline whether I get a ticket, but the purpose of this is to highlight the significantly greater Go Safe vans on the motor ways.

There was another Go-Safe Van nearer to Dublin and you could hardly miss it.

So, what I'm saying is... don't be a fish

Dravokivich · 28-10-2020 11:13am

You're making up your own speed limits and want to warn people that gosafe are still operating. How altruistic.

28-10-2020 12:17pm

Dravokivich wrote: »

You're making up your own speed limits and want to warn people that gosafe are still operating. How altruistic.

The stated purpose of Go Safe vans is to encourage people to slow down. So, by my highlighting their increased presence is a public good within the spirit of their design.

magicbastarder · 28-10-2020 2:09pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Go Safe Vans are far less visible during the hours of dark

funny that.

a riposte which would make your point moot - you had your car on cruise control at a speed higher than the speed limit.
my advice: don't do that, and then complain about the infrastructure that's been put in place to discourage you from doing that.

magicbastarder · 28-10-2020 2:10pm

Deleted User wrote: »

So, by my highlighting their increased presence is a public good within the spirit of their design.

how very altruistic of you, to break the law and then complain that your law breaking is not being prosecuted in the manner you want.

28-10-2020 2:43pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

funny that.

a riposte which would make your point moot - you had your car on cruise control at a speed higher than the speed limit.
my advice: don't do that, and then complain about the infrastructure that's been put in place to discourage you from doing that.

magicbastarder wrote: »

how very altruistic of you, to break the law and then complain that your law breaking is not being prosecuted in the manner you want.

Where did I complain? I'm highlighting so others dont fall foul.

You may take it that I'm implying Go Safe are doing it keep numbers up - you'd be correct. But, I'm not complaining.

dashcamdanny · 29-10-2020 12:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Go Safe Vans are far less visible during the hours of dark, especially placed in dark areas just after a lit up section due to eyes getting used to darkness again and the light absorption quality of the Go Safe Van paint.

If you completely miss a brightly coloured go safe van, then you are not concentrating enough and probably should get rid of CC and slow down.

I personally dont have a problem with going a little over the limit on a national road or motorway, however I do have an issue whenever the person driving is not dialed into the situation they have created.
How do you expect to slow for a hazard? Wake up.

29-10-2020 1:33pm

dashcamdanny wrote: »

If you completely miss a brightly coloured go safe van, then you are not concentrating enough and probably should get rid of CC and slow down.

It was fully dark. You do realise the vans appear brightly coloured in day time and specifically have paint work that doesn't reflect light. I was fully awake.

magicbastarder · 29-10-2020 5:57pm

Deleted User wrote: »

specifically have paint work that doesn't reflect light.

they're black? or invisible?

29-10-2020 6:03pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

how very altruistic of you, to break the law and then complain that your law breaking is not being prosecuted in the manner you want.

magicbastarder wrote: »

they're black? or invisible?

You're far too old for the passive aggressive behaviour. Go back to your P45rant persona. It's not too late.

Thargor · 29-10-2020 6:05pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It was fully dark. You do realise the vans appear brightly coloured in day time and specifically have paint work that doesn't reflect light. I was fully awake.

Lol, you missed a van on the side of the road while letting cruise control drive at illegal speeds at night but it's the paint on the vans fault.

29-10-2020 6:10pm

Thargor wrote: »

Lol, you missed a van on the side of the road while letting cruise control drive at illegal speeds at night but it's the paint on the vans fault.

What's too hard to understand? The vans are not made to stand out. They are more active on the relatively busy motorway during the lock down.

Lol? If that is laugh out loud (and you're not in a genuinely funny group that think that's Lots of Love

) funny you really are feeling the effects of lock down.

Sleeper12 · 29-10-2020 6:13pm

Deleted User wrote:

I noticed this the last lock down as well, and it seems to be the same this time around. Now that the network traffic has reduced considerably the Go Safe vans are much more prevalent on the still relatively busy motorways. Not only more prevalent, but also in places that would not be the usual haunt. Fish/Barrel/Quotas come to mind.

It's worth remembering that we had a high fatality rate on the roads during the last lock down. I think I heard on the radio during the week that we have already exceeded the number for the whole of last year with two months still to go.

magicbastarder · 29-10-2020 6:14pm

Deleted User wrote: »

You're far too old for the passive aggressive behaviour. Go back to your P45rant persona. It's not too late.

you're making claims that make no sense, it's not 'passive aggressive' to call you out on them.

go safe vans are white with stripes on the side. the notion that they're painted with paint that does not reflect light is bizarre.

e.g.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gosafe-drivers-paid-12-per-hour-to-risk-abuse-and-assault-1.4020010

29-10-2020 6:15pm

Sleeper12 wrote: »

It's worth remembering that we had a high fatality rate on the roads during the last lock down. I think I heard on the radio during the week that we have already exceeded the number for the whole of last year with two months still to go.

I do appreciate speeding can be a sensitive topic and I didn't mean to be insensitive. I do think Go-Safe vans are better suited to genuine accident black spots. Motorways are relatively safe compared to other roads.

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 29-10-2020 6:20pm

Why are you driving at an indicated 130 km/h (real speed 124 km/h)?

The whole point of speedometers that over read is so you won't be mistakenly driving over the speed limit.

Why don't you set the cruise control to126 km/h which will be a real 120 km/h?

29-10-2020 6:21pm

magicbastarder wrote: »

you're making claims that make no sense, it's not 'passive aggressive' to call you out on them.

Asking a question that you know the answer to - are they painted black... okay, we can agree to disagree on that.

magicbastarder wrote: »

go safe vans are white with stripes on the side. the notion that they're painted with paint that does not reflect light is bizarre.

e.g.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/gosafe-drivers-paid-12-per-hour-to-risk-abuse-and-assault-1.4020010

The van was not reflective. That's just anecdotal on my part I appreciate, but I can only report on what I saw (or didn't as the case may be).

Re your link. I've no issue with the drivers. I don't condone any mistreatment of these drivers. I understand they are merely going where management tell them to go. Anybody taking it out on the van drivers are despicable.

29-10-2020 6:22pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

Why are you driving at an indicated 130 km/h (real speed 124 km/h)?

The whole point of speedometers that over read is so you won't be mistakenly driving over the speed limit.

Why don't you set the cruise control to126 km/h which will be a real 120 km/h?

Thanks for your query. I'll consider it and get back to you. :rolleyes:

Thargor · 29-10-2020 6:42pm

What are you so hung up on this non-reflective paint for if it even exists? Should they be lit up so you can reduce your speed in time to avoid a fine and then go back to breaking the law when you've passed them?

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 29-10-2020 6:42pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Thanks for your query. I'll consider it and get back to you. :rolleyes:

So you're openly admitting to speeding?

29-10-2020 6:44pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

So you're openly admitting to speeding?

Yes. And I was the second shooter on the grassy knoll. Book me Danno!

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 29-10-2020 6:47pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes. And I was the second shooter on the grassy knoll. Book me Danno!

If a person openly admitted to breaking any other law or advocated such, they'd be banned fairly sharpish, why is it different for speeding?

29-10-2020 6:50pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

If a person openly admitted to breaking any other law or advocated such, they'd be banned fairly sharpish, why is it different for speeding?

Have you ever broken the speed limit? Ever?

Eleven Benevolent Elephants · 29-10-2020 6:51pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Have you ever broken the speed limit? Ever?

I don't deliberately set my Speedo above the limit.

You will lose control at such a dangerous speed.

29-10-2020 6:55pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

I don't deliberately set my Speedo above the limit.

Are you saying speeding without using cruise control is acceptable?

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

You will lose control at such a dangerous speed.

Is that a prediction or a wish? I've never lost control of my vehicle. And you should contact the German law makers to let them know that all German motorists that travel over 120 kmph will lose control of their vehicles.

frozenfrozen · 29-10-2020 6:57pm

you'll waste all the time you save going over the speed limit by posting about it here

sasta le · 29-10-2020 6:57pm

I'd your driving legally nothing to worry about??

blackbox · 29-10-2020 6:59pm

When did Go Safe vans start patrolling motorways?

29-10-2020 7:00pm

what a completely ridiculous thread.

They advertise their locations in advance.
They have unmarked 'test' vans in place in advance of the enforcement vans
They are only on straight roads which means they can be seen from far away
They are white with yellow stripes and their identity painted on them
THey are on the road that has the highest speed limit in the country

FFS OP, grow the **** up.

29-10-2020 7:06pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

what a completely ridiculous thread.

They advertise their locations in advance.
They have unmarked 'test' vans in place in advance of the enforcement vans
They are only on straight roads which means they can be seen from far away
They are white with yellow stripes and their identity painted on them
THey are on the road that has the highest speed limit in the country

FFS OP, grow the **** up.

I'm all grown up, thanks. What do you mean by advertising in advance. They no longer need to have signs up in advance - that rule was changed at the last time they updated the locations. If you look up the roads they cover it's practically the entire network. Again, I've no problem with Go Safe vans, I do think they could be better distributed to more dangerous roads. If that's immature I'm guilty as charged.

29-10-2020 7:07pm

blackbox wrote: »

When did Go Safe vans start patrolling motorways?

They always have, afaik.

29-10-2020 7:13pm

Deleted User wrote: »

I'm all grown up, thanks. What do you mean by advertising in advance. They no longer need to have signs up in advance - that rule was changed at the last time they updated the locations. If you look up the roads they cover it's practically the entire network. Again, I've no problem with Go Safe vans, I do think they could be better distributed to more dangerous roads. If that's immature I'm guilty as charged.

You can use an interactive map and zoom in, plenty of places they wont be (https://www.garda.ie/gosafe.html)

List of locations and accident / fatality numbers here: https://www.garda.ie/en/Roads-Policing/Safety-Cameras/

and this is what one looks like at night time, if you didnt see it then its a good thing the road was not busy or you wouldnt have seen other vehicles either.

Truthvader · 29-10-2020 7:18pm

All the po faced Green Party nannies out wagging their joyless fingers before cycling home in the rain I see

29-10-2020 7:19pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Is that the exact van that was on the motorway? All I can go on is the van I passed. Besides, that area is far more lit up than where I passed.

I'm aware of that resource you referenced. It's as well to think the entire network is covered.

Pkiernan · 29-10-2020 7:23pm

If only there was some sort of dial in a car that could display vehicle speed.

sondagefaux · 29-10-2020 7:24pm

Thread summary:

Person breaks law, thinks they were caught, whines publicly how unfair it is.

Johnrazz · 29-10-2020 7:25pm

I was driving into my village today to go park roughly 200 metres inside the 50kph zone from the changeover from 60kph as I turned a slight bend and a hedge overflowing the bend the lay by I use to park is just on the bend I noticed the speed van parked in there, I would of been just under the 60km and pulled in directly behind the van (it was parked horizontal instead of vertical on the spaces) and as I got out of my van the speed van started up and pulled out, what would be the time limit on that instance of them packing up or turning off the equipment they use to catch people speeding.

29-10-2020 7:26pm

Pkiernan wrote: »

If only there was some sort of dial in a car that could display vehicle speed.

There is. It's called a speedometer, they have been standard equipment on cars since approx 1910. They are usually visible behind the steering wheel.

Hope this has been of help.

29-10-2020 7:28pm

sondagefaux wrote: »

Thread summary:

Person breaks law, thinks they were caught, whines publicly how unfair it is.

Nah, don't think I will actually. But, you seem to want to ignore the point I was trying to make. In your defence yu're certainly not alone, so maybe I worded it poorly.

This is it · 29-10-2020 7:34pm

blackbox wrote: »

When did Go Safe vans start patrolling motorways?

They're years on the N3 and M3

Sleeper12 · 29-10-2020 7:59pm

Deleted User wrote:

I do appreciate speeding can be a sensitive topic and I didn't mean to be insensitive. I do think Go-Safe vans are better suited to genuine accident black spots. Motorways are relatively safe compared to other roads.

Passed by one well hidden on the N32 today. Less than 15 feet away is a shrine from where a child was killed a number of years ago. They can be in the most ridiculous of places but this one jump out at me as being the perfect place

99nsr125 · 29-10-2020 8:00pm

Eleven Benevolent Elephants wrote: »

I don't deliberately set my Speedo above the limit.

You will lose control at such a dangerous speed.

Ah ha ha ha ha ha

29-10-2020 8:02pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Is that the exact van that was on the motorway? All I can go on is the van I passed. Besides, that area is far more lit up than where I passed.

I'm aware of that resource you referenced. It's as well to think the entire network is covered.

The vans are all the same. I think you will find most organisations tend to deploy their fleet in similar patterns

If the one you passed was plain white, its for stats and is deployed before and after the enforcement van. they are all white though. You should be capable of seeing a white van on any stretch of rodway you are using and reduce your speed. Yes?

if you are aware of the links I provided then you will equally be aware that they are deployed in response to collisions and fatalities.

29-10-2020 8:10pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

The vans are all the same. I think you will find most organisations tend to deploy their fleet in similar patterns

If the one you passed was plain white, its for stats and is deployed before and after the enforcement van. they are all white though. You should be capable of seeing a white van on any stretch of rodway you are using and reduce your speed. Yes?

if you are aware of the links I provided then you will equally be aware that they are deployed in response to collisions and fatalities.

Again, all I can go on is the van I passed. Also, there was no other van nearby, the other Go Safe Van I saw was over 100 kmph away.

29-10-2020 8:39pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Again, all I can go on is the van I passed. Also, there was no other van nearby, the other Go Safe Van I saw was over 100 kmph away.

**** me, really?

Before and after in time, not location. How would they obtain speed stats based on all 3 vans being in the vicinity at the same time?

The idea is that a test van is deployed on say Monday and they obtain numbers. On wednesday theres enforcement and then on friday theres testing again.

They then compare Monday to Friday and see if enforcement appears to have any impact

AndrewJRenko · 29-10-2020 8:43pm

Truthvader wrote: »

All the po faced Green Party nannies out wagging their joyless fingers before cycling home in the rain I see

Yes indeed, let's all have a big ol laugh about the effects of speeding.

https://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Road-Safety/Campaigns/Current-road-safety-campaigns/Anti-Speeding-/

29-10-2020 8:51pm

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

**** me, really?

Is there a written form of Tourettes? It doesn't add to your argument.

Who knows if it's a TEST vehicle or not. There are more vans on the M7 than before, that's the point.

Truthvader · 30-10-2020 12:01am

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Yes indeed, let's all have a big ol laugh about the effects of speeding.

https://www.rsa.ie/en/RSA/Road-Safety/Campaigns/Current-road-safety-campaigns/Anti-Speeding-/

Oh no no no that wouldn't be appropriate at all. There's to be no laughter or fun. The most important thing is to be safe above all else. And of course to police and monitor other people at all times to make sure they are being sensible

30-10-2020 1:09am

Deleted User wrote: »

Is there a written form of Tourettes? It doesn't add to your argument.

Who knows if it's a TEST vehicle or not. There are more vans on the M7 than before, that's the point.

You should know if your going to go online and start waffling about them

that and the fact that I explained it in what I thought was a fairly obvious manner

30-10-2020 10:25am

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

You should know if your going to go online and start waffling about them

that and the fact that I explained it in what I thought was a fairly obvious manner

I've a feeling you've way more stamina on this than I do. Not even sure what your point is, but please accept that you have won it thoroughly. Congrats.

AndrewJRenko · 30-10-2020 5:21pm

Truthvader wrote: »

Oh no no no that wouldn't be appropriate at all. There's to be no laughter or fun. The most important thing is to be safe above all else. And of course to police and monitor other people at all times to make sure they are being sensible

I guess the most important thing is for speeding drivers to stop killing people on the roads. Any laughs or fun to be had there?

Lock down Go Safe Vans

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