Schools closed until February? (part 3)

SusanC10 · 29-10-2020 12:42PM

Unless the situation markedly disimproves before Monday, we are going to send the Kids back to School next week and take it on a week-to-week approx after that.
Neither school has a case (that we know of) but we had previously said that we would keep them at home if we reached Level 5.

wirelessdude01 · 29-10-2020 12:44PM

History Queen wrote: »

So teachers should continue to work during their break and supervise students. When do they get an actual break?

But sure to some here we never work anyway and are lazy. So we should sit in the class and have our lunch in a room full of maskless students.

eagle eye · 29-10-2020 12:46PM

facehugger99 wrote:

The country borrowing a billion a month to keep the lights on and the teachers decide to try and use the virus to squeeze a pay-rise - it's really despicable behaviour.

Unbelievable how you only pick out one thing and have a go at the teachers.

That shows you have an agenda.

If you discussed all their voting and complimented some of their votes while criticising others people might respect your opinion.

I'll just ignore your opinion from now on. I'm not a teacher and I've no connection with them. I think they've been very fair in their voting although I'd vote against working during a level 5 lockdown personally.

meeeeh · 29-10-2020 01:13PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

But sure to some here we never work anyway and are lazy. So we should sit in the class and have our lunch in a room full of maskless students.

You can sit in your car either. I'm pretty sure everyone is by now aware that usual practices in workplaces had to be changed.

wirelessdude01 · 29-10-2020 01:25PM

meeeeh wrote: »

You can sit in your car either. I'm pretty sure everyone is by now aware that usual practices in workplaces had to be changed.

Ohh do keep up with the conversation. Not everyone has a car on can afford to run and maintain a car.

Mrsmum · 29-10-2020 01:39PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Unless the situation markedly disimproves before Monday, we are going to send the Kids back to School next week and take it on a week-to-week approx after that.
Neither school has a case (that we know of) but we had previously said that we would keep them at home if we reached Level 5.

SusanC10, I read your posts and it is obvious how worried you are but with respect would you not be better off making a subtle shift in your thinking here. Make one decision rather than week to week decisions. One decision that your children will go to school - unless and at the point that something happens that you are uncomfortable with. I mean this week to week business is neither here nor there as your real decision may need to be taken on Tues next week or a month's time or never. It just seems to me you are adding in layers of unnecessary and what must be headwrecking decisions every weekend.

meeeeh · 29-10-2020 01:41PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Ohh do keep up with the conversation. Not everyone has a car on can afford to run and maintain a car.

You know what then you can sit outside in the rain or something and complain you you human rights are breached.

I know not all teachers are like the whingers in this thread, even among ASTI members I think less than 50% returned their ballots so this is in now way aimed at all teachers. However I'm sure there will a lot of sympathy for your hardship eating lunch among those who lost their job or business due to Covid.

SusanC10 · 29-10-2020 01:47PM

Mrsmum wrote: »

SusanC10, I read your posts and it is obvious how worried you are but with respect would you not be better off making a subtle shift in your thinking here. Make one decision rather than week to week decisions. One decision that your children will go to school - unless and at the point that something happens that you are uncomfortable with. I mean this week to week business is neither here nor there as your real decision may need to be taken on Tues next week or a month's time or never. It just seems to me you are adding in layers of unnecessary and what must be headwrecking decisions every weekend.

You may have a point. We had made 1 decision at the start of the school year. That they would go to school until either Level 5 or there was a case in their year group. But now we are at Level 5 but the numbers are falling and neither school have had a case that we are aware of.

wirelessdude01 · 29-10-2020 01:50PM

meeeeh wrote: »

You know what then you can sit outside in the rain or something and complain you you human rights are breached.

I know not all teachers are like the whingers in this thread, even among ASTI members I think less than 50% returned their ballots so this is in now way aimed at all teachers. However I'm sure there will a lot of sympathy for your hardship eating lunch among those who lost their job or business due to Covid.

I really do wonder what that teacher did to you while you were in school that you have such utter distain for teachers and schools in general. You are the type that would argue that black is white and when proven wrong would turn around and claim you are being misunderstood.

Mrsmum · 29-10-2020 01:59PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

You may have a point. We had made 1 decision at the start of the school year. That they would go to school until either Level 5 or there was a case in their year group. But now we are at Level 5 but the numbers are falling and neither school have had a case that we are aware of.

Your children have been at school for seven or eight weeks. Celebrate that fact because it is wonderful. You have not made a bad decision yet and I doubt you will. I' m not saying don't be as alert as you like because that is only sensible but don' t be torturing yourself either with unnecessary decision layers every five days. One decision until and if is more than enough. That's my respectful suggestion to you anyway.

mvl · 29-10-2020 02:07PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I really do wonder what that teacher did to you while you were in school that you have such utter distain for teachers and schools in general. You are the type that would argue that black is white and when proven wrong would turn around and claim you are being misunderstood.

from where I am concerned, this is an example of a small business owner that is facing challenges today, and the venom on these posts has something to do with that ... some advice for anyone impacted here

meeeeh · 29-10-2020 02:09PM

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I really do wonder what that teacher did to you while you were in school that you have such utter distain for teachers and schools in general. You are the type that would argue that black is white and when proven wrong would turn around and claim you are being misunderstood.

No I quite like most of the teachers. I was one the good students and never had issues with any of my teachers. Neither I have any complaints about most of the teachers in general. I also believe your attitude of 'can't do' is nowhere near representative of teachers in general.

I like people who make an effort, look for solutions, not for any minor excuse not to do their job.

irishblessing · 29-10-2020 02:13PM

SusanC10 wrote: »

Unless the situation markedly disimproves before Monday, we are going to send the Kids back to School next week and take it on a week-to-week approx after that.
Neither school has a case (that we know of) but we had previously said that we would keep them at home if we reached Level 5.

Susan we are of similar minds. Most my family and friends would be similar. We try to keep informed what is happening nationally, locally and within the school. I think it's only smart to keep an ongoing assessment and try and do your best. We still haven't made up our minds whether to send back or not. We're leaning to an extra 1-2 weeks schooling from home (we have all the books) until rates drop and level 5 effects kicks in. To be faced with no other option other than either rolling the dice or keeping at home is a f-g disgrace. Once we lose our health it's a huge worry. Hang in there.

wirelessdude01 · 29-10-2020 02:13PM

meeeeh wrote: »

No I quite like most of the teachers. I was one the good students and never had issues with any of my teachers. Neither I have any complaints about most of the teachers in general. I also believe your attitude of 'can't do' is nowhere near representative of teachers in general.

I like people who make an effort, look for solutions, not for any minor excuse not to do their job.

You literally haven't a clue. Laughable really.

khalessi · 29-10-2020 02:14PM

Anne1984 wrote: »

Teachers should in this case eat with the students they have just taught. There is no need for teachers to be a close contact of each other. They have no choice but to being close to other students so to minimise spread should sit with them instead of other teachers.

16 teachers at my local school were close contacts of each other and had to isolate. The school had to close. It makes no sense.

You do know it is aerosol spread? So teacher with no mask eating lunch and students no mask eating lunch, not a good combination along with the previous mention of the teacher not getting a break as they end up supervising the class.

eagle eye · 29-10-2020 02:16PM

meeeeh wrote:

You can sit in your car either. I'm pretty sure everyone is by now aware that usual practices in workplaces had to be changed.

Why would you sit in your car when you've spent hours in a room with maskless children?

khalessi · 29-10-2020 02:17PM

meeeeh wrote: »

You know what then you can sit outside in the rain or something and complain you you human rights are breached.

I know not all teachers are like the whingers in this thread, even among ASTI members I think less than 50% returned their ballots so this is in now way aimed at all teachers. However I'm sure there will a lot of sympathy for your hardship eating lunch among those who lost their job or business due to Covid.

It is interesting how no matter what anyone says here you find umbrage with it and yet you come back to whinge again and again yourself. One would almost think you were just here to bash but no I know it isnt that.

Icyseanfitz · 29-10-2020 02:17PM

meeeeh wrote: »

No I quite like most of the teachers. I was one the good students and never had issues with any of my teachers. Neither I have any complaints about most of the teachers in general. I also believe your attitude of 'can't do' is nowhere near representative of teachers in general.

I like people who make an effort, look for solutions, not for any minor excuse not to do their job.

what do you mean "cant do" ffs, we have all made a massive effort to ensure the safety of the kids under our protection while in a school building, we've kept the schools going for the last 8 weeks against all odds, and we have constantly told ye that they are not safe in the hopes that people will actually listen.

A week or so ago the positivity rate was 1.7% (which many in this thread constantly touted as a great pointer of non danger in schools) in schools, its now 3% and it will likely get higher but there will always be the likes of you spouting how us educators are only looking for time off and to not do our job when all we want is the same protections afforded to every other workforce at the moment in the interest of safety for our students and us.

eagle eye · 29-10-2020 02:18PM

meeeeh wrote:

I was one the good students and never had issues with any of my teachers.

That's extremely hard to believe given.your attitude on here.

irishblessing · 29-10-2020 02:20PM

meeeeh wrote: »

You know what then you can sit outside in the rain or something and complain you you human rights are breached.

I know not all teachers are like the whingers in this thread, even among ASTI members I think less than 50% returned their ballots so this is in now way aimed at all teachers. However I'm sure there will a lot of sympathy for your hardship eating lunch among those who lost their job or business due to Covid.

Jesus. You've hit a real personal low point, and that's saying a lot.

meeeeh · 29-10-2020 02:21PM

eagle eye wrote: »

Why would you sit in your car when you've spent hours in a room with maskless children?

Then don't. Nobody can force you or anyone to do anything.

We staggered lunch breaks, some eat in the cars, I don't eat lunch so it doesn't affect me. We make an effort in order to stay open because we are aware our and emplyee livelihoods will be affected otherwise. It is simple as that, the fact is people can be spread out if they want to be.

wirelessdude01 · 29-10-2020 02:22PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

what do you mean "cant do" ffs, we have all made a massive effort to ensure the safety of the kids under our protection while in a school building, we've kept the schools going for the last 8 weeks against all odds, and we have constantly told ye that they are not safe in the hopes that people will actually listen.

A week or so ago the positivity rate was 1.7% (which many in this thread constantly touted as a great pointer of non danger in schools) in schools, its now 3% and it will likely get higher but there will always be the likes of you spouting how us educators are only looking for time off and to not do our job when all we want is the same protections afforded to every other workforce at the moment in the interest of safety for our students and us.

When it comes to adults and their opinions on education, schools and educators I'm firmly in the you can't change ignorance camp. They have their point of view and it's not for changing no matter the facts.

Also it is painfully clear that some on here get their kicks and jollys from baiting teachers. Poor them.

meeeeh · 29-10-2020 02:23PM

eagle eye wrote: »

That's extremely hard to believe given.your attitude on here.

You don't have to believe anything.

khalessi · 29-10-2020 02:26PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Then don't. Nobody can force you or anyone to do anything.

We staggered lunch breaks, some eat in the cars, I don't eat lunch so it doesn't affect me. We make an effort in order to stay open because we are aware our and emplyee livelihoods will be affected otherwise. It is simple as that, the fact is people can be spread out if they want to be.

I love that you assume that has not been done, lol. Slow clap for meeeeh, you have done your country a great service, telling us how to eat lunch.

meeeeh · 29-10-2020 02:27PM

khalessi wrote: »

I love that you assume that has not been done, lol. Slow clap for meeeeh, you have done your country a great service, telling us how to eat lunch.

Then why complain?

khalessi · 29-10-2020 02:29PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Then why complain?

Interesting you assume pointing out a fact that a virus is aerosol is complaining.
Why come here since you only complain yourself?

irishblessing · 29-10-2020 02:30PM

meeeeh wrote: »

Then why complain?

*Holds up a mirror*

wirelessdude01 · 29-10-2020 02:30PM

khalessi wrote: »

I love that you assume that has not been done, lol. Slow clap for meeeeh, you have done your country a great service, telling us how to eat lunch.

See they know it's being done in lots of schools but that doesn't suit what they want to say so it's just ignored. I've said many times on here that we have max of 5 at any one time in our staffroom but that is ignored so they can have a personal dig. Then the ain't I great story of how they don't eat lunch, ohh what a martyr.

wirelessdude01 · 29-10-2020 02:32PM

irishblessing wrote: »

*Holds up a mirror*

Pot, kettle, black is very apt here.

Smacruairi · 29-10-2020 02:34PM

Meeeh jumped the shark, just like lilyfae before. Its not about making school communities safe, it's not about raising standards of eduction to be in line with our European counterparts, teachers need to be put in their box because they don't like them. "Go eat lunch in the rain" is the new "let them eat cake".

Schools closed until February? (part 3)

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