Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Seamai · 27-10-2020 10:51PM

Stheno wrote: »

Did she seriously say that?

Yeah, stupid bint, I just reached for the remote, on a side note I don't think that awful case in north Cork should be up for discussion either at the moment. People sitting around guessing and coming up with theories.

lawred2 · 27-10-2020 10:51PM

RTE now peddling the great barrington declaration..

Gas

lawred2 · 27-10-2020 10:53PM

Seamai wrote: »

Yeah, stupid bint, I just reached for the remote, on a side note I don't think that awful case in north Cork should be up for discussion either a the moment. People sitting around guessing and coming up with theories.

Couldn't believe that myself.. the background music and random shots.. do they think they are an episode of unsolved mysteries!?

Joke

jackboy · 27-10-2020 10:53PM

NIMAN wrote: »

I was out today for the 1st time in maybe 4 days and this L5 lockdown is absolutely nothing like the initial L5 lockdown.

Local town had loads of people milking around. Supermarket packed. Even seen a local furniture warehouse open and loads coming and going.

Not too optisimistic about getting an R figure of 0.5 by end of November.

Correct. The public are not treating it like level 5 and the guards are not enforcing it. Almost everyone is ignoring the 5 k rule. Things are closed, that is the extent of the current restrictions.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 27-10-2020 10:54PM

NIMAN wrote: »

I was out today for the 1st time in maybe 4 days and this L5 lockdown is absolutely nothing like the initial L5 lockdown.

Local town had loads of people milking around. Supermarket packed. Even seen a local furniture warehouse open and loads coming and going.

Not too optisimistic about getting an R figure of 0.5 by end of November.

I think we can reach our targetted daily case numbers without getting a r number of 0.5 as they weren't modelling any benefit from level 3 when they were doing the maths.

We cna probably get by with a r number of 0.6 or so and still reach 100 cases a day.

Arghus · 27-10-2020 10:56PM

seamus wrote: »

It's funny to see all the same people who were so quick to dismiss any suggestion that things were remotely looking positive, now desperate to find reasons why it's not. Claiming that this is sudden, unexpected, a blip, down to level 5, down to no contact reacing or down to mid term break.

Except that this trend started at least 10 days ago, and we've been watching it.

The brief plateau when Dublin was in level 3, lasted all of five days. We're now twice as long into this one and the downward trend firmly entrenched.

Incredible the lengths people will go to, to fortify their own misery.

I don't know if I'm fortifying my misery as such, just preferring to look at things with a degree of caution. It's absolutely encouraging that the case numbers appear to be stabilising and that the positivity rate is moving in the right direction, but I'm loathe to definitely call anything for sure.

I would still view this as extremely early days and I don't want to jump to any conclusions. We could have turned the corner, I hope we have, but, equally, what way the virus numbers move can take us by surprise. How many times have unforeseen outcomes come our way since March? If I was leaning into a more pessimistic view of things I would question if we're really going to get off this relatively lightly - that everything works like clockwork and we get numbers down to where we want them; we'll be lucky and rare if that's the case. I think the onset of cold and flu season still has the capacity to cause a lot of confusion and chaos.

And, notwithstanding the falling positivity rate, I still would be concerned about what has happened with the tracing system over the last fortnight. Surely there must have been people who slipped through the net. I wouldn't be particularly reassured by what we're being told by the HSE and Tony Holohan on this issue - I like the guy a lot, but he'll never admit to any part of the health system being less than worthy of an A+

marno21 · 27-10-2020 10:57PM

NIMAN wrote: »

I was out today for the 1st time in maybe 4 days and this L5 lockdown is absolutely nothing like the initial L5 lockdown.

Local town had loads of people milking around. Supermarket packed. Even seen a local furniture warehouse open and loads coming and going.

Not too optisimistic about getting an R figure of 0.5 by end of November.

Neither of these settings are responsible for getting us to where we are. Were people wearing masks in supermarkets? During the first lockdown the supermarkets were open with no mask wearing and we got to an R number of 0.5

niallo27 · 27-10-2020 10:57PM

jackboy wrote: »

Correct. The public are not treating it like level 5 and the guards are not enforcing it. Almost everyone is ignoring the 5 k rule. Things are closed, that is the extent of the current restrictions.

The guards caused a 4km backup to the tunnel this morning on the way to Shannon before 8 in the morning. People just trying to go to work, what a waste of time, money and resources. Its infuriating.

jackboy · 27-10-2020 10:57PM

Not this clown again on prime time.

US2 · 27-10-2020 10:57PM

lawred2 wrote: »

RTE now peddling the great barrington declaration..

Gas

The what ?

CruelSummer · 27-10-2020 10:58PM

lawred2 wrote: »

RTE now peddling the great barrington declaration..

Gas

I just turned in, they seem to be discussing it. And other options available also.

https://twitter.com/rte_primetime/status/1321206626636996611?s=21

Blondini · 27-10-2020 11:01PM

Arghus wrote: »

I don't know if I'm fortifying my misery as such, just preferring to look at things with a degree of caution. It's absolutely encouraging that the case numbers appear to be stabilising and that the positivity rate is moving in the right direction, but I'm loathe to definitely call anything for sure.

I would still view this as extremely early days and I don't want to jump to any conclusions. We could have turned the corner, I hope we have, but, equally, what way the virus numbers move can take us by surprise. How many times have unforeseen outcomes come our way since March? If I was leaning into a more pessimistic view of things I would question if we're really going to get off this relatively lightly - that everything works like clockwork and we get numbers down to where we want them; we'll be lucky and rare if that's the case. I think the onset of cold and flu season still has the capacity to cause a lot of confusion and chaos.

And, notwithstanding the falling positivity rate, I still would be concerned about what has happened with the tracing system over the last fortnight. Surely there must have been people who slipped through the net. I wouldn't be particularly reassured by what we're being told by the HSE and Tony Holohan on this issue - I like the guy a lot, but he'll never admit to any part of the health system being less than worthy of A+

Absolutely. It's brilliant that the outlook is more positive, but I'm not ready to start the celebrations just yet.

A few here have reverted to type already : smug, triumphant and more confident than competent.

27-10-2020 11:03PM

Kings college London have released a study on “Long Covid”. 2.3% of those in the study experienced symptoms past 56 days, and those experiencing more symptoms in the initial infection were more likely to suffer longer symptoms. The symptoms most likely to extend past 56 days were fatigue, followed by headache, followed by shortness of breath

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.10.19.20214494v1.full.pdf

caveat emptor · 27-10-2020 11:03PM

I'm sure I'd get on like a house on fire with the posters I disagree with the most including raind. This is a weird interface and not very human.

Stay safe. Top tip don't watch prime time. Ignorance is bliss in that case.

BorneTobyWilde · 27-10-2020 11:06PM

Vac Scene, thought that was a club housewives gather at to talk about the latest Hoover coming to market.

Funsterdelux · 27-10-2020 11:08PM

jackboy wrote: »

Not this clown again on prime time.

Miriam? Doing her own make up again?

Happydays2020 · 27-10-2020 11:09PM

Blondini wrote: »

Absolutely. It's brilliant that the outlook is more positive, but I'm not ready to start the celebrations just yet.

A few here have reverted to type already : smug, triumphant and more confident than competent.

Agree. It needs to run its course. Complacency is the biggest risk. But we need CMO and politicians on broadly the same wavelength.

jackboy · 27-10-2020 11:10PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Miriam? Doing her own make up again?

She just asked the question ‘Should we take comfort from fewer deaths’? It’s like a weird comedy show.

JimToken · 27-10-2020 11:10PM

Breaking Rte:

Large number of positive cases related to extra testing

27-10-2020 11:12PM

Arghus wrote: »

I don't know if I'm fortifying my misery as such, just preferring to look at things with a degree of caution. It's absolutely encouraging that the case numbers appear to be stabilising and that the positivity rate is moving in the right direction, but I'm loathe to definitely call anything for sure.

I would still view this as extremely early days and I don't want to jump to any conclusions. We could have turned the corner, I hope we have, but, equally, what way the virus numbers move can take us by surprise. How many times have unforeseen outcomes come our way since March? If I was leaning into a more pessimistic view of things I would question if we're really going to get off this relatively lightly - that everything works like clockwork and we get numbers down to where we want them; we'll be lucky and rare if that's the case. I think the onset of cold and flu season still has the capacity to cause a lot of confusion and chaos.

And, notwithstanding the falling positivity rate, I still would be concerned about what has happened with the tracing system over the last fortnight. Surely there must have been people who slipped through the net. I wouldn't be particularly reassured by what we're being told by the HSE and Tony Holohan on this issue - I like the guy a lot, but he'll never admit to any part of the health system being less than worthy of an A+

Is early days but is also now a clear trend rather than just an anomaly. Contact tracing has not stopped either and fewer contacts are being indentified than previously, on average, which can only lead to reduced transmission.

Icantthinkof1 · 27-10-2020 11:16PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Vac Scene, thought that was a club housewives gather at to talk about the latest Hoover coming to market.

Sexist much *yawn.
I’ve heard plenty of men are partial to a bit of the ‘ol shake and vac

SortingYouOut · 27-10-2020 11:17PM

So that's 2021 off the cards as well, we always have 2022.

Gael23 · 27-10-2020 11:21PM

I’m not taking a vaccine unless it means restrictions are removed

Happydays2020 · 27-10-2020 11:23PM

A key to surviving this is to stay clear of RTÉ. It is negative and misguided. Adds no value.

Spanish Eyes · 27-10-2020 11:24PM

SortingYouOut wrote: »

So that's 2021 off the cards as well, we always have 2022.

Gotta have a laugh for sure.

But RTE ain't helping, but they have to justify their humungous salaries I suppose.

And there are plenty who will watch in case they miss anything. FGS :P

Next up Dermot Bannon lol,

sideswipe · 27-10-2020 11:30PM

SortingYouOut wrote: »

So that's 2021 off the cards as well, we always have 2022.

The next 2 years are crucial.........

FintanMcluskey · 27-10-2020 11:31PM

Hego Damask wrote: »

Avoid RTE ... take a walk , get fresh air - it helps.

Only problem with avoiding RTE is that one doesn’t actually know how far it’s acceptable to go for that walk without being told

ACitizenErased · 27-10-2020 11:34PM

Gael23 wrote: »

I’m not taking a vaccine unless it means restrictions are removed

That is a bizarre way of thinking. A vaccine results in restrictions being reduced. If people don't take it then the restrictions won't be removed

FintanMcluskey · 27-10-2020 11:36PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

That is a bizarre way of thinking. A vaccine results in restrictions being reduced. If people don't take it then the restrictions won't be removed

You didn’t see prime time then?

ACitizenErased · 27-10-2020 11:37PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

You didn’t see prime time then?

I'd rather scoop my eyes out with a spoon than watch prime time

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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