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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭boardise


    polesheep wrote: »
    It's not necessarily corrupt. It could have been bought in a panic. These things were in short supply at the time.

    Was this substance not supposed to be tested before being marketed as a human health related product ? Must be some enquiries to be made in that regard.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,718 ✭✭✭boardise


    Now I can't be certain, lads, but are they gaelic tops they're wearing there? And would they be singing about being county champions?

    I'd imagine a few of those faces would be known locally.

    No doubt the usual nincompoops will think they're heroes - rebels defiantly thumbing their noses at authority.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    Looks like level 5 was a complete over reaction and that level 3 is working but it wasn't allowed enough time before jumping up a level. Now, loads of businesses are shut again and many won't open up again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,165 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Looks like level 5 was a complete over reaction and that level 3 is working but it wasn't allowed enough time before jumping up a level. Now, loads of businesses are shut again and many won't open up again.

    And no-one on NPHET or in the government care.

    They'll be looked after financially.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Looks like level 5 was a complete over reaction and that level 3 is working but it wasn't allowed enough time before jumping up a level. Now, loads of businesses are shut again and many won't open up again.

    Can’t be proven either way so the sledgehammer approach will win the day.


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  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 35,240 Mod ✭✭✭✭AlmightyCushion


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Looks like level 5 was a complete over reaction and that level 3 is working but it wasn't allowed enough time before jumping up a level. Now, loads of businesses are shut again and many won't open up again.

    It's easy to say that now with the benefit of hindsight. At the time cases were continuing to rise across the country and even in Dublin which had been in level 3 for over a month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,237 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    owlbethere wrote: »
    Looks like level 5 was a complete over reaction and that level 3 is working but it wasn't allowed enough time before jumping up a level. Now, loads of businesses are shut again and many won't open up again.

    People were only chomping at the bit for Tony to be proved right and Leo to look stupid.

    RTÉ everyday just screaming for level 5.

    Sick of it all now.

    No leaders. Noone taking the bull by the horns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    It's easy to say that now with the benefit of hindsight. At the time cases were continuing to rise across the country and even in Dublin which had been in level 3 for over a month.

    Dublin is always going to be harder to reverse than other counties for a number of reasons. Nphet know this obviously but they used Dublin as an example of l3 not working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    People were only chomping at the bit for Tony to be proved right and Leo to look stupid.

    RTÉ everyday just screaming for level 5.

    Sick of it all now.

    No leaders. Noone taking the bull by the horns.

    RTÉ play to their audience. The public will have to wake up before RTE changes its tune.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    manniot2 wrote: »
    Can’t be proven either way so the sledgehammer approach will win the day.

    The numbers are coming down and its still only 2 days into a level 5 and level 5 results would be too early to show itself. So level 3 was working and its showing now with the numbers reducing. Level 5 was too restrictive and if they felt moving up a level was needed, a level 4 would have been more than enough to see where it takes us if it didn't work, then move to level 5. Many businesses will never open again. Not to mention mental health. The lockdown in March was a walk in the park because the evenings were getting brighter and there was a novelty factor about it too. Now we are going into the winter with getting dark early, bad weather, people socially isolated, and not a place open in sight.

    It was wrong to ban the outdoor dining areas. It's needed for people to get away from home gatherings, people could have met in a safer environment for some social interactions.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 456 ✭✭Jackman25


    Summer2020 wrote: »
    https://streamable.com/syj4zh


    The sheebeen that the guards closed in Athy yesterday. This is why we’re in level 5 folks. Because of absolute morons like these up and down the country.

    Good for them. Hope they find a new spot and no doubt they will.

    Thankfully my Sunday evening crew don't bother much with the social media.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    owlbethere wrote: »
    The numbers are coming down and its still only 2 days into a level 5 and level 5 results would be too early to show itself. So level 3 was working and its showing now with the numbers reducing. Level 5 was too restrictive and if they felt moving up a level was needed, a level 4 would have been more than enough to see where it takes us if it didn't work, then move to level 5. Many businesses will never open again. Not to mention mental health. The lockdown in March was a walk in the park because the evenings were getting brighter and there was a novelty factor about it too. Now we are going into the winter with getting dark early, bad weather, people socially isolated, and not a place open in sight.

    It was wrong to ban the outdoor dining areas. It's needed for people to get away from home gatherings, people could have met in a safer environment for some social interactions.

    Im just telling you what Nphet will say - the numbers wouldn’t have come down enough in level 3 for anyone to have a Xmas. It’s bribery basically.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 247 ✭✭CoronaBlocker


    owlbethere wrote: »
    The numbers are coming down and its still only 2 days into a level 5 and level 5 results would be too early to show itself. So level 3 was working and its showing now with the numbers reducing. Level 5 was too restrictive and if they felt moving up a level was needed, a level 4 would have been more than enough to see where it takes us if it didn't work, then move to level 5. Many businesses will never open again. Not to mention mental health. The lockdown in March was a walk in the park because the evenings were getting brighter and there was a novelty factor about it too. Now we are going into the winter with getting dark early, bad weather, people socially isolated, and not a place open in sight.

    It was wrong to ban the outdoor dining areas. It's needed for people to get away from home gatherings, people could have met in a safer environment for some social interactions.

    You might be talking sense but don't forget that we had to save christmas. That's why people wanted level 5. Because after level 5 people would suddenly be able to all have their grannies around for some dry turkey and over-boiled carrots.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,143 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Be gas if any of the decision makers were found spending their guaranteed income in a Shebeen lol.

    Well they did it in a golf club.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,807 ✭✭✭✭Purple Mountain


    I see clothes shops getting around closure by click and collect.
    You still have to go to the door and collect your purchase.
    That kind of defeates the purpose as I'm sure not every customer is from within a 5km radius.

    To thine own self be true



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 408 ✭✭RunningFlyer


    I’m only catching up with the sanitiser saga. Did the company actually manufacture it with methanol vs. ethanol? I’m no chemist but even I know if someone said “methanol” it would sound alarm bells in my head! Criminal if someone without a scientific knowledge set up a company distributing health products undercutting proper safe products.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Be gas if any of the decision makers were found spending their guaranteed income in a Shebeen lol.

    Well they did it in a golf club.....

    I’d say you’ll be waiting a while to see Nolan in a shebeen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,143 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    manniot2 wrote: »
    I’d say you’ll be waiting a while to see Nolan in a shebeen.

    It's people like him you have to watch :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,886 ✭✭✭✭Roger_007


    Be gas if any of the decision makers were found spending their guaranteed income in a Shebeen lol.

    Well they did it in a golf club.....

    If you are referring to the Clifden incident, I think it may have been in a hotel that the regulations were either bent or broken. The activity at the golf club earlier was not in breach of any regulations.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    People were only chomping at the bit for Tony to be proved right and Leo to look stupid.

    RTÉ everyday just screaming for level 5.

    Sick of it all now.

    No leaders. Noone taking the bull by the horns.

    It’s so obvious that rte has lost the plot over this Covid hysteria.and I’m not being sexist or putting women down but some of theIt presenters are a disgrace.step forward Audrey carville who is no.1 for hysterical guff.she’s a joke on morning Ireland.talking up another lockdown since early august
    Clare Byrne is out of her depth too and yesterday she went way across the line with a 70 yr old man who said he wasn’t going to hid away now or caccoon again.she was so condescending to him and that he should be grateful to have the rest of society closing down to protect him.


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  • Site Banned Posts: 5,975 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    It’s so obvious that rte has lost the plot over this Covid hysteria.and I’m not being sexist or putting women down but some of theIt presenters are a disgrace.step forward Audrey carville who is no.1 for hysterical guff.she’s a joke on morning Ireland.talking up another lockdown since early august
    Clare Byrne is out of her depth too and yesterday she went way across the line with a 70 yr old man who said he wasn’t going to hid away now or caccoon again.she was so condescending to him and that he should be grateful to have the rest of society closing down to protect him.

    She's the most overrated useless interviewer RTE have in my opinion!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,410 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    I see clothes shops getting around closure by click and collect.
    You still have to go to the door and collect your purchase.
    That kind of defeates the purpose as I'm sure not every customer is from within a 5km radius.

    No, but they're not rambling about the shop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    No, but they're not rambling about the shop.

    Heaven forbid


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,053 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Are you suggesting the current figures have anything to do with level 5
    I said nothing of the sort. I was wondering whether the poster I quoted, who has said restrictions can't/won't/don't work, might be changing his mind.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    You might be talking sense but don't forget that we had to save christmas. That's why people wanted level 5. Because after level 5 people would suddenly be able to all have their grannies around for some dry turkey and over-boiled carrots.

    A level 5 to save Christmas doesn't make a tap of sense. It doesn't matter what numbers we have in December and at Christmas time we will still need to follow the guidelines of social distancing and avoiding crowds and no gatherings and keep our contacts low so that would mean no parties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Summer2020 wrote: »

    Why is the infection rate so much higher in the 18-24 age group.... Oh


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,077 ✭✭✭Away With The Fairies


    Why are sports shops open? Or are they meant to be open?

    Wanted to get to a shop last weekend but it was closed on Sunday, then it was lashing rain on Monday and Tuesday. I felt sick on Wednesday and I thought that was my chance over with. But nope, shop was open to walk into today.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 245 ✭✭MelbourneMan


    manniot2 wrote: »
    Im just telling you what Nphet will say - the numbers wouldn’t have come down enough in level 3 for anyone to have a Xmas. It’s bribery basically.

    My read is that this is unlikely. I expect they will descend quickly in W47 and W48 in all counties.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,445 ✭✭✭mloc123


    I see clothes shops getting around closure by click and collect.
    You still have to go to the door and collect your purchase.
    That kind of defeates the purpose as I'm sure not every customer is from within a 5km radius.

    The N4 around Liffey Valley was dead today, compared to the last few months. Click and collect or not.. there is nowhere near the same volume of people out and about.

    People will still go and buy the stuff they want/need but you won't have the people heading for a walk around the shops to get out of the house.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,143 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    mloc123 wrote: »
    The N4 around Liffey Valley was dead today, compared to the last few months. Click and collect or not.. there is nowhere near the same volume of people out and about.

    People will still go and buy the stuff they want/need but you won't have the people heading for a walk around the shops to get out of the house.

    Who would go shopping for a walk :confused:


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