Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Widdensushi · 23-10-2020 08:45PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Positivity rate in Switerland is 50% their contact tracing has collapsed too.

https://www.arcinfo.ch/aio-gm/web/news/html/995332/

Serious lockdown, the bars and restaurants have to close at 11, thankfully they can do takeaway later

23-10-2020 08:49PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

By existing and living people will spread the virus. Are you suggesting we stop living? It’s this kind of attitude that has people hiding symptoms and not getting tested.
Anything you wish to do that involves others will carry a risk, food shopping, petrol, pharmacy, Doctor/medical appointment, etc.

No it's not, unless of course you are suggesting that people who are waiting on testing or their results don't follow the guidelines and continue living as you say.

tobefrank321 · 23-10-2020 08:51PM

froog wrote: »

contact tracing results in a large number of asymptomatic positives being caught that otherwise wouldn't. do you seriously not understand that?

Agreed. If 1000 are positive and the R0 is 1.5 thats potentially 1500 positives if there was no contact tracing for original 1000. Assuming 50% are asymptomatic, that's 750 who may slip through the net, not knowing they have it.

normanoffside · 23-10-2020 08:51PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Serious lockdown, the bars and restaurants have to close at 11, thankfully they can do takeaway later

Nightclubs have to close at 11 too.
Their lockdown is our level 1

hmmm · 23-10-2020 08:54PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Positivity rate in Switerland is 50% their contact tracing has collapsed too.

https://www.arcinfo.ch/aio-gm/web/news/html/995332/

I follow a few Swiss virologists on Twitter, as you do, and they are apoplectic about what is going on. Richest country in the world, Federal government and Cantons both pointing fingers but doing nothing. The virologists are literally not leaving their homes the disease is so rampant.

I thought some of the comments that we are in for the hardest four months of our lives were a bit over the top, but I'm beginning to wonder if we will see mass graves in Europe over Winter.

normanoffside · 23-10-2020 08:54PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Serious lockdown, the bars and restaurants have to close at 11, thankfully they can do takeaway later

This is only in 1 canton as well, I assume in the rest of the country the nightclubs can stay open all night.

Funsterdelux · 23-10-2020 08:58PM

Kh1993 wrote: »

Can’t wait to hear worldometer updates on how Timor Leste is getting on. Have they gone up from 1, double figures? Nail biting.

I prefer his BNO reports

Wolf359f · 23-10-2020 09:00PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Agreed. If 1000 are positive and the R0 is 1.5 thats potentially 1500 positives if there was no contact tracing for original 1000. Assuming 50% are asymptomatic, that's 750 who may slip through the net, not knowing they have it.

And yet only ~12% of close contacts test positive and asymptomatic cases are no where near 50%, half that more like it.

ACitizenErased · 23-10-2020 09:01PM

Uh oh.
https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1319730220396662789?s=21

Stheno · 23-10-2020 09:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Uh oh.
https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1319730220396662789?s=21

Whats wrong with that?

owlbethere · 23-10-2020 09:02PM

Today's numbers of a little over 700 were good. Is that results from level 3 or would it be from the collapse of the contact tracing and less people being tested? Or would it be a mix of the two of them?

ACitizenErased · 23-10-2020 09:04PM

Stheno wrote: »

Whats wrong with that?

Mentioning trends on here is frowned upon

23-10-2020 09:05PM

Stheno wrote: »

Whats wrong with that?

means Level 3 was working. No need for Level 5 and the destruction of over 100K jobs, increases in desperation among lonely people and deserted towns and cities.

hotmail.com · 23-10-2020 09:05PM

Today's figures will further erode compliance in the measures. A big majority, young and old, not adhering to the rules.

owlbethere · 23-10-2020 09:07PM

Delighted with the news of fines for the guideline breakers and party/covid spreaders. Hopefully isolation breakers will be targeted too.

owlbethere · 23-10-2020 09:08PM

hotmail.com wrote: »

Today's figures will further erode compliance in the measures. A big majority, young and old, not adhering to the rules.

Not really. It's just one day of figures and it's mportant to continue following the guidelines.

boggerman1 · 23-10-2020 09:09PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Uh oh.
https://twitter.com/paulreiddublin/status/1319730220396662789?s=21

Is Reid sure of this given his performance with track and trace.he should’ve resigned after his car crash interview on radio yesterday.

Navanboyo · 23-10-2020 09:09PM

GooglePlus wrote: »

He's essentially saying "see, I might not have been wrong after all"

Toddlers shouldn't be politicians.

This.

I think Leo is in danger of passing himself out given the number of U turns he is taking on this.

ACitizenErased · 23-10-2020 09:10PM

boggerman1 wrote: »

Is Reid sure of this given his performance with track and trace.he should’ve resigned after his car crash interview on radio yesterday.

You can see for yourself on the COVID dashboard. Goto data and services and the laboratory data is there.

Wolf359f · 23-10-2020 09:11PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

means Level 3 was working. No need for Level 5 and the destruction of over 100K jobs, increases in desperation among lonely people and deserted towns and cities.

I don't believe level 3 (especially unenforced) would or will get the cases down low enough and fast enough.
Level 5 should hopefully do that.

Level 3 may be enough to reopen up in December with and have cases be stable for the most part over Christmas.

Of course if cases continue to drop next week, all we will hear is, it's because the schools are closed.

Stheno · 23-10-2020 09:13PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

means Level 3 was working. No need for Level 5 and the destruction of over 100K jobs, increases in desperation among lonely people and deserted towns and cities.

Ah I agree that its level three at work alright

Wonder if it continues over the next 5/6 days will the Cabinet conside over ruling NPHET and go down back to 3?

Apparently there was a divide in supporting what we have now

hmmm · 23-10-2020 09:16PM

Stheno wrote: »

Ah I agree that its level three at work alright

Wonder if it continues over the next 5/6 days will the Cabinet conside over ruling NPHET and go down back to 3?

It looks like Level 3 may be enough to get us close to equilibrium, but it wasn't enough to reduce cases. We can't go on having a 1000 cases a day and need the current period to get cases down to manageable levels.

Stheno · 23-10-2020 09:17PM

hmmm wrote: »

It looks like Level 3 may be enough to get us close to equilibrium, but it wasn't enough to reduce cases. We can't go on having a 1000 cases a day and need the current period to get cases down to manageable levels.

Whats manageable numbers wise in your opinion?

froog · 23-10-2020 09:20PM

level 3 was clearly not working until NPHET gave the country a collective boot up the hole with the original level 5 threat. public compliance is more important than any of the levels. a fully complaint population in level 2 would probably be sufficient.

saabsaab · 23-10-2020 09:21PM

Stheno wrote: »

Ah I agree that its level three at work alright

Wonder if it continues over the next 5/6 days will the Cabinet conside over ruling NPHET and go down back to 3?

Apparently there was a divide in supporting what we have now

Hardly going to back pedal now. Took a lot of winding up to start uo level 5.

tobefrank321 · 23-10-2020 09:21PM

Fairly obvious government/NPHET/HSE are one trick ponies, which is a total national lockdown. They cannot cope with the virus outside of that scenario.

This vaccine better be good, close to 100% effective for all age and health categories. If it only reduces the problem by 50% we'll be at this for years especially if it doesn't have sterilising immunity.

Widdensushi · 23-10-2020 09:22PM

froog wrote: »

level 3 was clearly not working until NPHET gave the country a collective boot up the hole with the original level 5 threat. public compliance is more important than any of the levels. a fully complaint population in level 2 would probably be sufficient.

You believe that level 5 is showing results already, you obviously don't have much of a grasp of how long it takes to get results

prunudo · 23-10-2020 09:23PM

froog wrote: »

level 3 was clearly not working until NPHET gave the country a collective boot up the hole with the original level 5 threat. public compliance is more important than any of the levels. a fully complaint population in level 2 would probably be sufficient.

Garda checkpoints didnt appear around Dublin until surrounding counties went to level 3. Had they enforced it properly from the get go we might not be in the situation we are now either.

froog · 23-10-2020 09:24PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

You believe that level 5 is showing results already, you obviously don't have much of a grasp of how long it takes to get results

eh? where did i say that?

Jinglejangle69 · 23-10-2020 09:25PM

NHPET won out with their level 5.

People literally hoping we go to level 5 so Leo will look silly.

Whole thing is like a soap opera.

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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