Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Roger_007 · 23-10-2020 01:11AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Decent video there of the Gardai getting a few slaps in

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=649137669126024&id=100020893912279

How many bicycles were arrested?

stephenjmcd · 23-10-2020 01:12AM

Underattack wrote: »

Filmed on a potato.

Can still make out one of the public order lads getting a knee into one of them a few times

perrito caliente · 23-10-2020 01:13AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Can still make out one of the public order lads getting a knee into one of them a few times

You're a sad little man Stephen. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the protest, you're a very sad little man.

Underattack · 23-10-2020 01:13AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Can still make out one of the public order lads getting a knee into one of them a few times

Im all for peaceful protest but start acting up,well what do ya expect?

perrito caliente · 23-10-2020 01:14AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Can still make out one of the public order lads getting a knee into one of them a few times

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Decent video there of the Gardai getting a few slaps in

You're a sad little man Stephen. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the protest, you're a very sad little man.

Kickstart1.3 · 23-10-2020 01:16AM

perrito caliente wrote: »

You're a sad little man Stephen. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the protest, you're a very sad little man.

It`s better that Stephen keeps wearing his mask and stays indoors

Underattack · 23-10-2020 01:18AM

Kickstart1.3 wrote: »

It`s better that Stephen keeps wearing his mask and stays indoors

Could he not wear it and still protest peacefully?

Roger_007 · 23-10-2020 01:22AM

I’m really looking forward to the Real/Continuity IRA staging an anti-mask protest?

bb1234567 · 23-10-2020 01:30AM

niallo27 wrote: »

Are restaurants and retail shut in France. Can they travel over 5k.

And maybe they can cope with the cases that come with those lighter restrictions. 2000 hospitalised in France today, our hospitals would already be overwhelmed with the level of cases in France

Underattack · 23-10-2020 01:32AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

And maybe they can cope with the cases that come with those lighter restrictions. 2000 hospitalised in France today, our hospitals would already be overwhelmed with the level of cases in France

That means nothing,we dont have Frances population

bb1234567 · 23-10-2020 01:35AM

Underattack wrote: »

That means nothing,we dont have Frances population

Oh for gods sake of course I meant per capita.

2000 hospitalisations is over 150 hospitalised in a day here in our population which is absolutely huge

Kickstart1.3 · 23-10-2020 01:36AM

2000 out of 68 million.

How many hospitalised from other diseases?

CalamariFritti · 23-10-2020 01:37AM

10000maniacs wrote: »

But your point is irrelevant, because all of those 72,314 people were infected with the virus.

What the WHO are saying is that there wasn't just 79k infected. There was 79k that they know about. But thats not the true number. The true number is more like 790k or even 1.5m. And then your fatality percentages are much much smaller consequently.

Underattack · 23-10-2020 01:38AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Oh for gods sake of course I meant per capita.

2000 hospitalisations is over 150 hospitalised in a day here in our population which is absolutely huge

Then blame the government for not preparing our health service...we shouldnt have to suffer for our "leaders" incompetence

Kickstart1.3 · 23-10-2020 01:38AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Oh for gods sake of course I meant per capita.

2000 hospitalisations is over 150 hospitalised in a day here in our population which is absolutely huge

Get a grip. How many people have been hospitalised with other diseases?

bb1234567 · 23-10-2020 01:43AM

Kickstart1.3 wrote: »

Get a grip. How many people have been hospitalised with other diseases?

Why don't you tell us seeing as you're the one dismissing all concerns, put our worries at ease

virginmediapls · 23-10-2020 01:45AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Oh for gods sake of course I meant per capita.

2000 hospitalisations is over 150 hospitalised in a day here in our population which is absolutely huge

Don't bother engaging these people, no point.

jammiedodgers · 23-10-2020 01:45AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Decent video there of the Gardai getting a few slaps in

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=649137669126024&id=100020893912279

Disgraceful.

I was expecting the Gardai to get a lot more slaps in.

Kickstart1.3 · 23-10-2020 01:47AM

That's not possible as they are not testing or gathering the data.
Just shows the Bollsh1t of the whole thing

10000maniacs · 23-10-2020 01:49AM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

What the WHO are saying is that there wasn't just 79k infected. There was 79k that they know about. But thats not the true number. The true number is more like 790k or even 1.5m. And then your fatality percentages are much much smaller consequently.

But your point is still irrelevant, because 79k was the sample of infected people that the scientists used to get their figures for their findings. They were all infected, so the sample starting point was the same.

CalamariFritti · 23-10-2020 02:02AM

10000maniacs wrote: »

But your point is still irrelevant, because 79k was the sample of infected people that the scientists used to get their figures for their findings. They were all infected, so the sample starting point was the same.

It must be me. Because what you're saying makes no sense to me.

China says China has 80k infected and 4k deaths.

WHO is saying China has 800k (or even 1.5m) infected and 4k deaths.

Easy to not know about infected. Not so easy to overlook deaths. Deaths stays the same.

Edit: I like the username btw. Had an album from them that I loved.

fritzelly · 23-10-2020 02:19AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Decent video there of the Gardai getting a few slaps in

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=649137669126024&id=100020893912279

All for control on gardai powers but sometimes you think hmmm lets just do a Purge hour

bb1234567 · 23-10-2020 02:26AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Decent video there of the Gardai getting a few slaps in

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=649137669126024&id=100020893912279

Some set of lungs on those protestors, had to mute it to save my ears! What is going on here? Looks a bit intense, gardai definitely using excessive force in earlier part of the video. Was this today?

PTH2009 · 23-10-2020 02:34AM

JimToken wrote: »

Teachers ,Medics and Nursing Home Staff are dropping out of the system faster than they can be replaced.

We've taken a relatively harmless virus and invented a terrible cure for it

The amount of retirements in the teaching sector is crazy atm

Johnboy1951 · 23-10-2020 02:35AM

Having read almost every post in this thread I felt compelled to post ...

From my point of view the most important numbers are:-

1 the number of deaths occuring during a period, and how that number, in a pandemic, differs from the historical norm of the period.

2. Those requiring ICU .

3. The number requiring hospitalisation.

This link, which was posted earlier, is rather telling ....
https://covid19ireland-geohive.hub.arcgis.com/
(referring to first graph) shows that the number of deaths is not related to the 'confirmed case' number after the initial surge of the pandemic.

Unfortunately it neither shows my number 2 or 3 figures nor does it compare those to historical numbers.

But what it clearly shows is that there is no appreciable increase in deaths attributed to Covid since last May ... the number has flat-lined.
Yet the number of cases has spiked enormously!
There is apparently no corelation between death and the number of cases.

If it is true that the number of deaths is directly proportional to the numbers in ICU, and to the numbers requiring hospitalisation, then there are very serious questions to be asked about why the 'case numbers' are being highlighted in every pronouncement.

I would very much prefer not to die this year (or next for that matter), but according to those graphs and those I have seen which included historical numbers, I have almost the same chance of dying this Winter as I have had in each of the 5 Winters preceeding this.

So, either I am greatly misinterpreting what the graphs show, or there is near zero reason to have any serious restrictions imposed at all - on anyone - except to protect our health system.

I do not recall anything from Gov since this began to indicate there is an intention to increase the capacity of our health service, yet billions of € can be budgeted for other things while the economy is being essentially destroyed.

I would appreciate being told where I am wrong or alternatively if I am correct in my interpretation.

Thanks.

US2 · 23-10-2020 03:01AM

Theres an astroid passing near Earth on November 2nd. There a 0.42% it hits Earth. I am literally more likely to die from an astroid than covid in the next week.

pjohnson · 23-10-2020 06:43AM

Kickstart1.3 wrote: »

It`s better that Stephen keeps wearing his mask and stays indoors

perrito caliente wrote: »

You're a sad little man Stephen. Whatever the rights and wrongs of the protest, you're a very sad little man.

Found the protesters :pac:

CIARAN_BOYLE · 23-10-2020 07:35AM

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I would appreciate being told where I am wrong or alternatively if I am correct in my interpretation.

Thanks.

1. Icu numbers and hospital are available on that website you linked. The tab at the top of the screen for icu hospital and testing contains that information.
2. We have a horrible system for deaths in this country. First of all it takes time to die of the disease. Then the families theoretically have 3 months to report. I have written to politicians (with no reply) about this issue. The deaths that have been reported recently died in October but not all October deaths have been reported. Its best to think of todays deaths as deaths related to cases a month ago. So we are getting multiple deaths a day related to cases when cases were about 250 a day. In a months time we will probably be reporting around 10-20 deaths a day related to the 1000 cases a day we are experiencing at the moment.

Graces7 · 23-10-2020 08:00AM

Widdensushi wrote: »

Not to personal but I remember that you lived abroad or maybe are not originally Irish, it just seems to me like you have expectations of others, I don't think it would be fair not to give them the choice to see other parts of the world when young

Interesting and off topic reply ! I am way past retirement and did teach and work in the UK after my training there. I used my training to support my country.

My contemporaries who were trained at the same time taught in the UK fir several years if they were planning to work abroad and see the world

My post was in response to the dire need we have now of medical staff. Even if they were asked to stay and work here for three years it would help hugely and they would still be young :eek:

And my post was in response to someone demanding HSE recruit huge numbers of nurses and doctors.

Have you any other ideas to help this shortfall given the length of training needed?

Off now for the weekend. Stay safe and well!

zerosugarbuzz · 23-10-2020 08:02AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

1. Icu numbers and hospital are available on that website you linked. The tab at the top of the screen for icu hospital and testing contains that information.
2. We have a horrible system for deaths in this country. First of all it takes time to die of the disease. Then the families theoretically have 3 months to report. I have written to politicians (with no reply) about this issue. The deaths that have been reported recently died in October but not all October deaths have been reported. Its best to think of todays deaths as deaths related to cases a month ago. So we are getting multiple deaths a day related to cases when cases were about 250 a day. In a months time we will probably be reporting around 10-20 deaths a day related to the 1000 cases a day we are experiencing at the moment.

10 -20 deaths “with” Covid or “of” Covid?

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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