Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

manniot2 · 22-10-2020 09:24AM

The story on RTE today about the uselessness of these vaccines needs to printed and posted to everyone in this country. We need to wake up quickly, we can ruin the economy/society now for no reason or we can realise that this aint going anywhere and actually live with it!

22-10-2020 09:24AM

bennyl10 wrote: »

people are surprised at check points?

We had these under level 3? If you know you have to be somewhere then leave earlier. This shouldn't be a shock to anyone.

The tailback you endured 2 weeks ago? ya it was always gonna happen again

If you dont have a letter from your employer then stay home.

If you need to get to school/your essential work then go earlier.

Maybe put the checkpoints out at times when people aren't going to work. Anyone travelling to work has been designated essential by their employer, therefore why have guards wasting thier time getting the same answer from tens of thousands of people. Better to deploy them at times when social visitors are out and about.

Colleague was stopped by a guard this morning who just said "I suppose your going to work as well" and waved him on before he even answered. Pointless exercise, and anyone seeking to bypass the restrictions knows exactly which route to take as the guards seem to always set up the checkpoints at the same locations

OldRio · 22-10-2020 09:24AM

Covid_Scam wrote: »

Like almost everybody here is saying, these IDIOTIC restrictions imposed on people by (excuse me...) idiots, conmen, and brainless heartless politicians, or so-called experts, all of them being bribed by wealthy evil controllers.

All the people, we must realize this scam and hold together and not being pushed and shoved around like we have no rights to even THINK differently. This is Modern slavery folks!!! And it only works because wast majority of the population are afraid and scared to death from nothing more than the seasonal flu :-(

We had flu every year before and we had to live healthily and boost our immune systems in order to prevent ourselves or heal. And all a sudden it doesn't WORK?!! ...and the only thing that works is the ridiculous lockdown and masks?!! Do you people hear how silly and stupid that really sounds?

WE are allowing this to HAPPEN by complying and acquiescing...

And Governments employing SNITCHES??!! Where the hell are we...?

People please, hold together, what they want is to divide us and demonize people like me and hundreds of thousands of others who see through their lies and agenda.

1 post. I wonder who that could be?

Richard Hillman · 22-10-2020 09:25AM

Judging by the primary school close to me, either they didn't open or nobody sent their kids in.

B.A._Baracus · 22-10-2020 09:26AM

manniot2 wrote: »

The story on RTE today about the uselessness of these vaccines needs to printed and posted to everyone in this country. We need to wake up quickly, we can ruin the economy/society now for no reason or we can realise that this aint going anywhere and actually live with it!

But living with it would also mean lock down when the numbers get too high. Especially in winter months.

RebelButtMunch · 22-10-2020 09:27AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Is that you Gemma?

Thank the gods for the ignore button on that OP post

Roger_007 · 22-10-2020 09:28AM

Boggles wrote: »

Decent sized drop in hospital.

305, 26 in, 36 out.

That’s one person in every 15000 of the population.............not exactly a doomsday scenario.?

Cluedo Monopoly · 22-10-2020 09:29AM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Reid has to resign or be sacked from the HSE. Its been a clusterf*ck from the get-go.
What do you have to do to be sacked in the public sector or from the HSE?

You cannot be sacked for incompetence. Don't let any public servant convince you otherwise. I was in the HSE for several years - they don't even do proper performance appraisals. It's a ticket-the-box and everyone gets their time based increments no matter what.

forumdedum · 22-10-2020 09:29AM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Judging by the primary school close to me, either they didn't open or nobody sent their kids in.

Possible outbreak?

SeaBreezes · 22-10-2020 09:29AM

https://twitter.com/EricTopol/status/1318987048955510785?s=20

bennyl10 · 22-10-2020 09:30AM

Boggles wrote: »

Decent sized drop in hospital.

305, 26 in, 36 out.

Terrific! If this keeps up we’ll be out of 5 quickly!

How are the ICU numbers also? And discharges or passed away?

22-10-2020 09:30AM

Allinall wrote: »

This is the nub of the issue.

If everyone ( or a large majority of people) did this, then we wouldn't have a fraction of the restrictions we have now.

Unfortunately, a large minority of people are selfish and think they know better.

I'm not convinced by that at all. If everyone was compliant we would still have significant restrictions.

forumdedum · 22-10-2020 09:31AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

The post is about Covid numbers

Thanks, I found the wording a little confusing

CIARAN_BOYLE · 22-10-2020 09:35AM

bennyl10 wrote: »

Terrific! If this keeps up we’ll be out of 5 quickly!

How are the ICU numbers also? And discharges or passed away?

Not released yet. Recorded at 11am reported sometime between 11 and 12

Also what is with the hospital numbers.

324-36+24 is no where close to 305.

Are we talking about 7 deaths in hospital?

yourdeadwright · 22-10-2020 09:37AM

Here's a question I'm sure its ok but
My brother gets his little one minded from 9 to 1 by his mother in law while he is work then on his lunch break collects her and drops her to his own mother for the afternoon , then collects her at 6 , it slightly over 5 k away

Is that seen as ok ?

manniot2 · 22-10-2020 09:37AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

But living with it would also mean lock down when the numbers get too high. Especially in winter months.

Living with it has to be in a sustainable manner as we are in this for the very long term. Keeping people within 5km of their houses is not sustainable.

Plumbthedepths · 22-10-2020 09:39AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Here's a question I'm sure its ok but
My brother gets his little one minded from 9 to 1 by his mother in law while he is work then on his lunch break collects her and drops her to his own mother for the afternoon , then collects her at 6 , it slightly over 5 k away

Is that seen as ok ?

The majority of Guards have cop on. I doubt there'll be an issue except with a few here which should be ignored.

Boggles · 22-10-2020 09:39AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Not released yet. Recorded at 11am reported sometime between 11 and 12

Also what is with the hospital numbers.

324-36+24 is no where close to 305.

Are we talking about 7 deaths in hospital?

It would appear as grim as it sounds, like before not everyone is being afforded ICU.

Funsterdelux · 22-10-2020 09:39AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Here's a question I'm sure its ok but
My brother gets his little one minded from 9 to 1 by his mother in law while he is work then on his lunch break collects her and drops her to his own mother for the afternoon , then collects her at 6 , it slightly over 5 k away

Is that seen as ok ?

Yes, for childcare.

Tell him he isnt allowed to stop for a chat or have a cup of tea though.

22-10-2020 09:41AM

manniot2 wrote: »

The story on RTE today about the uselessness of these vaccines needs to printed and posted to everyone in this country. We need to wake up quickly, we can ruin the economy/society now for no reason or we can realise that this aint going anywhere and actually live with it!

The premise of the report that the RTE story is based on is the the study designs are setup to only detect reduction in mild cases, not severe cases. And while this is true, this is a function of the underlying stats and not that they don't foresee a reduction in severe disease.

If a vaccine developer enrols 10,000 patients in a trial, they may only expect to see 5% of those actually exposed to the virus in that time (probably much less). That's 500 potential cases. But of those only 25 would be potential severe cases requiring hospitalisation. That's a tiny sample size to draw any statistical conclusion on. So they use the larger number, the mild cases to complete the statistical analysis. The same mechanism should work across the population though.

The stats say, to detect a 50% reduction in severe cases you would need 384 candidates, therefore with 5% hospitalisations and 5% of the population exposed to the virus, you would need to enroll 150,000 patients in the trial.

gmisk · 22-10-2020 09:43AM

manniot2 wrote: »

Living with it has to be in a sustainable manner as we are in this for the very long term. Keeping people within 5km of their houses is not sustainable.

Of course it isn't sustainable.
But other places have tried it (and for a much longer time) like Melbourne.

bennyl10 · 22-10-2020 09:45AM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Not released yet. Recorded at 11am reported sometime between 11 and 12

Also what is with the hospital numbers.

324-36+24 is no where close to 305.

Are we talking about 7 deaths in hospital?

That’s less terrific

Sadly it appears so and isn’t what we need to be seeing

hmmm · 22-10-2020 09:46AM

Deleted User wrote: »

The stats say, to detect a 50% reduction in severe cases you would need 384 candidates, therefore with 5% hospitalisations and 5% of the population exposed to the virus, you would need to enroll 150,000 patients in the trial.

Good post. And we know for a fact that only one patient on the Oxford trial has died of Covid because it was sensationally reported this week. Now that unfortunate person (28 year old doctor btw) was in the placebo group, but if we have to wait for another 100 people to die to get data we could be waiting years.

B.A._Baracus · 22-10-2020 09:48AM

manniot2 wrote: »

Living with it has to be in a sustainable manner as we are in this for the very long term. Keeping people within 5km of their houses is not sustainable.

You're right that it's not sustainable.
Neither is letting it out of control. There's no best answer to this sadly.

You can't keep locking everything down while at the same time you have to lockdown when he cases are spiking.

22-10-2020 09:51AM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Here's a question I'm sure its ok but
My brother gets his little one minded from 9 to 1 by his mother in law while he is work then on his lunch break collects her and drops her to his own mother for the afternoon , then collects her at 6 , it slightly over 5 k away

Is that seen as ok ?

If only one of granny's minds. Technically you could drive to a house 100km away for childcare

Paddygreen · 22-10-2020 09:51AM

Boggles wrote: »

It would appear as grim as it sounds, like before not everyone is being afforded ICU.

Tell me about it, numbers truly are terrifying. Its like Telly Bingo hosted by the grim reaper. I literally feel like I have seen a ghost every time I see George Lee, the sheer sense of terror I feel afterwards has me in the want of a stiff drink. Thank you sweet Jesus for RTE, supplying us with the truth like they say in their ad.

Kivaro · 22-10-2020 09:52AM

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

Thank the gods for the ignore button on that OP post

Out of curiosity: How did you achieve that?
That poster had only one post, so you had to read the post in order to put him/her on ignore.

is_that_so · 22-10-2020 09:53AM

B.A._Baracus wrote: »

You're right that it's not sustainable.
Neither is letting it out of control. There's no best answer to this sadly.

You can't keep locking everything down while at the same time you have to lockdown when he cases are spiking.

You still need to look to your experts to find smarter ways of managing things, adding new tools and of looking beyond just models. One narrow strategy only is a recipe for disaster on so many fronts.

Maxpfizer · 22-10-2020 09:57AM

copeyhagen wrote: »

Pretty sure the videos are fake
Last one has a comment under saying town was dead.
Family member was there last night till 6 and closed shop as Grafton st was dead.

This is 100% not true.

I don't know about the validity of the video but also don't understand why people come on and talk absolute sh!t.

Was on Grafton St last night between 7.15pm and however long it takes to walk from Stephens Green down to College Green.

To say "Grafton St was dead" is basically just an outright lie.

The street was pretty busy but I wouldn't say "packed".
A few buskers out with small crowds gathered around them.

Small crowds gathered on some of the side streets that have people sitting outside. Not exactly particularly busy but could in no way be described as dead.

Except for down at the corner with Suffolk Street.
A couple of dudes there playing guitars with a crowd across the entire width of Grafton Street with a lot of people drinking from plastic cups.
Outside so I am sure this is OK but it was definitely busy.
Still you have to weave your way through that crowd, brushing against them etc.

To the right towards Nassau Street there was a smaller crowd gathered.
To the left along Suffolk Street it was pretty busy with a decent crowd of people gathered around.

To say Grafton Street was dead is a flat out lie and if that video was shot down the bottom end of Grafton then it is probably legit. It was getting busy down there just after 7pm for sure.

Akabusi · 22-10-2020 09:59AM

Listening to Newstalk now and Donnelly waffling big time. Pat sticking it to him about the golf. I don't play golf but it is stupid not to allow it.

Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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