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Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

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  • #1832
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    That could take years if it ever happens

    I would be hopeful it will but until then there will have to come a point of living alongside the virus

    The Russians are already successfully using a vaccine with good results. They are actually sending out a second vaccine shortly also. Not sexy enough for western media though.


  • #1833
    I Am The Law
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭I Am The Law


    Martina1991 wrote: »

    Dr. Casey also mentions in a subsequent tweet that it is getting hard for them to recruit people to do tracing as they are getting abused by the public.

    And a zero hour contract for your trouble.


  • #1834
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,524 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Softshoulder wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1021/1172871-only-senior-inter-county-games-permitted-during-level-5/

    Ah lads, what's the point of level 5 if this carry on happens?

    GAA are scum.

    How are they scum?

    They were told Inter County could continue, they weren't told it would only be senior and now the departments are off to clarify what is and isn't allowed.


  • #1835
    Le Bruise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,416 ✭✭✭Le Bruise


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    That could take years if it ever happens

    I would be hopeful it will but until then there will have to come a point of living alongside the virus

    With a bit of luck we should have one (or more) by the end of this year!


  • #1836
    Hector Savage
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The Russians are already successfully using a vaccine with good results. They are actually sending out a second vaccine shortly also. Not sexy enough for western media though.

    Yes, that's good news, the media just want doom and gloom...


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  • #1837
    Softshoulder
    Site Banned Posts: 49 ✭Softshoulder


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    How are they scum?

    They were told Inter County could continue, they weren't told it would only be senior and now the departments are off to clarify what is and isn't allowed.

    If underage county players are elite, then surely senior club players are elite too.


  • #1838
    forumdedum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭forumdedum


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The Russians are already successfully using a vaccine with good results. They are actually sending out a second vaccine shortly also. Not sexy enough for western media though.

    I wouldn't trust Putin with anything.


  • #1839
    Softshoulder
    Site Banned Posts: 49 ✭Softshoulder


    Hector Savage wrote: »
    Yes, that's good news, the media just want doom and gloom...

    My job involves some work with Chinese people from time to time and when I said I hope a vaccine comes soon they said they already have one in China and they're rolling it out to the priority groups already.

    It's amazing how Europe and USA is seemingly always the first with the technology. It's never China or Russia, no, they could never do it before the US or Europe.


  • #1840
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    The HSE are getting a lot of grief, and rightly so.
    There's one area in which they've done fairly well - testing. A horror show at the start of the pandemic, but they got their act together and have steadily increased capability over the last few months as infections have risen.

    If only they'd had the bloody foresight to understand that you have to increase tracing capacity in line with your testing capacity, then they might even have gotten away with doing so little to improve our hospital/ICU capacity.

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  • #1841
    hasdanta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭hasdanta


    Hi all,

    My work is closing after today due to level 5. I will have worked 13 hours this week so far, whereas I was originally rostered to work for 29 hours this week. My company has told us to not sign on for the PUP as they will continue to pay us an average of our wages over the past few months every week. However, we’ve been told that next week we are only going to get paid for the hours we worked this week (so 13 for me).

    Because of level five, I’m losing out on around 16 hours this week. Am I entitled to apply for PUP or the wage subsidy scheme this week?


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  • #1842
    shmeee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,731 ✭✭✭✭shmeee


    Softshoulder wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1021/1172871-only-senior-inter-county-games-permitted-during-level-5/

    Ah lads, what's the point of level 5 if this carry on happens?

    GAA are scum.

    Alright lad, who pissed in your cornflakes?

    They are awaiting clarification on the matter. There is games fixed for tonight.

    I'm a GAA supporter and I'm surprised ANY GAA is still going ahead given the current circumstances.

    It's all about money at the end of the day.....


  • #1843
    KennisWhale
    Closed Accounts Posts: 186 ✭✭KennisWhale


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Very

    Lockdown seems to be the one and only tool that NPHET have to deal with the virus

    It's unsurprising that Tony Holohan came back from his, presumably, sad and harrowing few months leave of absence and lockdown is forced on the government from the NPHET advocacy group.

    He stepped aside as CMO in the midst of the crisis and then waltzed back in despite missing a key few months. It's absolutely astounding, he is not in a position to be CMO.


  • #1844
    I Am The Law
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 657 ✭✭✭I Am The Law


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The Russians are already successfully using a vaccine with good results. They are actually sending out a second vaccine shortly also. Not sexy enough for western media though.

    Mmmmm.... Russian Vaccine..

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  • #1845
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,339 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    forumdedum wrote: »
    I wouldn't trust Putin with anything.

    Well when he didn't take it himself..


  • #1846
    shmeee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,731 ✭✭✭✭shmeee


    hasdanta wrote: »
    Hi all,

    My work is closing after today due to level 5. I will have worked 13 hours this week so far, whereas I was originally rostered to work for 29 hours this week. My company has told us to not sign on for the PUP as they will continue to pay us an average of our wages over the past few months every week. However, we’ve been told that next week we are only going to get paid for the hours we worked this week (so 13 for me).

    Because of level five, I’m losing out on around 16 hours this week. Am I entitled to apply for PUP or the wage subsidy scheme this week?

    Your employer can claim the increased EWSS rates for any payroll pay dates after 19th October so if your payroll is done this week, tomorrow or Friday paydate then you are entitled to the EWSS which is an employer subsidy, not an employee subsidy btw.

    Very messy going on PUP for 3 days and then back off it again, don't think it can even be done from what I know and its payment is for a full week, not part of a week.


  • #1847
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,429 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    hasdanta wrote:
    Because of level five, I’m losing out on around 16 hours this week. Am I entitled to apply for PUP or the wage subsidy scheme this week?
    You are definitely entitled to something. Just call and enquire as to how to go about it.


  • #1848
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    The Russians are already successfully using a vaccine with good results. They are actually sending out a second vaccine shortly also. Not sexy enough for western media though.

    I am all for good news but Russia....really?530059.jpg


  • #1849
    KrustyUCC
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,100 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    wirelessdude01 wrote: »
    Given the current situation what would you have implemented?

    I can see why they went for a lockdown even if we are the only country in Europe to go for such a long one

    Funny how other countries with worse cases than us didn't go for the nuclear option but still it's here now

    The question then is what happens next?

    I don't believe NPHET for a second on this lockdown being only 6 weeks

    But lets say by some miracle it's successful and we go to level three on 1st of December

    That is still very very restrictive on people

    No pubs, restaurants, stay without your own county

    Retail back up and running

    The first lockdown we had went from March 12 to June 29th where we couldn't travel to other counties

    That was 15 weeks and 3 days

    This lockdown is 6 weeks minimum

    That's 21 weeks minimum of not being able to see friends, family and partners if you happen to live in another county

    Level three would add a couple of more weeks to that

    We might be given dispensation to travel around Christmas for a week or two before NPHET want another lockdown in January

    For weeks, six weeks? at level 5 again before the slow unwind

    We were painfully slow at easing restrictions the first time around

    NPHET will be even slower to ease this time around and at best that would be level three again in February

    Starting tonight to the end of February is over 4 months

    The opportunity for couples seeing each other is very limited in that time if there's another lockdown

    This six weeks is going to be very hard not to mind having a third lockdown in January potentially

    Lockdowns should be a last resort when things are collapsing not a go to plan from NPHET


  • #1850
    TonyMaloney
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,150 ✭✭✭TonyMaloney


    Poor old Scotland - 28 deaths reported today.

    1,739 new cases, 605 in Glasgow and Clyde.
    873 in hospital, 73 in ICU


  • #1851
    Nermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,883 ✭✭✭Nermal


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    Belgium on the brink and it's not even November yet

    https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-belgium-was-cited-as-a-model-for-the-uk-to-follow-now-its-hospitals-face-being-overrun-12109631

    On the 'brink' of having to prioritise some patients for ICU treatment over others. Grim, unpleasant decisions, but ones that have to be made - so what?

    There seems to be an impression in this thread that if the last ICU bed is filled and another patient enters the door the hospital will spontaneously combust.


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  • #1852
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,108 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Is a third lockdown after Christmas quite likely?


  • #1853
    Jim_Hodge
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,415 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Is a third lockdown after Christmas quite likely?

    Absolutely.


  • #1854
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    Swabs today will be very interesting

    If we below 900 it’d be good progress


  • #1855
    Sierra Oscar
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 8,729 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sierra Oscar


    BringBackMick wrote: »
    Swabs today will be very interesting

    If we below 900 it’d be good progress

    I wouldn't really have much faith in the testing numbers at the moment considering the enormous difficulties being encountered by contact tracing over the last number of days. Many close contacts simply aren't being contacted let alone tested.


  • #1856
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,595 ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Is a third lockdown after Christmas quite likely?

    Yes.

    R number with level 3 restrictions is about 1.3-1.4 (nolan). During christmas the r number will shoot up significantly ( I don't know what significantly means but let's say 2.6-3.5) leading to a large spike in cases which will not be sustainable.

    If we go into December with 100 cases a day with those r numbers it will be back at over a 1000 cases a day by mid january.


  • #1857
    Eod100
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,339 ✭✭✭✭Eod100


    Gael23 wrote: »
    Is a third lockdown after Christmas quite likely?

    Can we at least get through this one first before thinking about a third one? :pac:


  • #1858
    boggerman1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    Softshoulder wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1021/1172871-only-senior-inter-county-games-permitted-during-level-5/

    Ah lads, what's the point of level 5 if this carry on happens?

    GAA are scum.
    Take a chill pill or go for a walk


  • #1859
    quartz1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭quartz1


    The GAA seem to have become our new Catholic Church such is their power and reach . Senior Inter County Championship been run I could accept because they can take some precautions and it will provide entertainment to a lot of people who are restricted but all other under age games are a joke. ....those games and training sessions will create unnecessary contact between households at a time the rest of us are confined to our homes. It's not right to restrict funerals while allowing the GAA do what they wish.


  • #1860
    daydorunrun
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 784 ✭✭✭daydorunrun


    KrustyUCC wrote: »
    Very

    Lockdown seems to be the one and only tool that NPHET have to deal with the virus

    100% agree.

    I've been living basically at level 4/5 restrictions for months anyway if I were to compare the guidelines to how I've been living.

    We have kept contacts down- Daughter has had playdates but with kids she sits beside in school only. Haven't bothered with shops and shopping centres as I just don't feel like browsing or spending time in places plastered in yellow covid warnings and reminders of our new (ab)normal everywhere, same goes for pubs and restaurants. Did day trips over the summer rather than staying in hotels, have continued to cut my own hair:D
    The way I've been getting through is running and walking in places nearby where I can get out in nature and forget about it all. Now thats gone with the 5k rule (I live rurally and roads around me are not safe to walk or run) and so are my daughters playdates even though she still sits beside her pals in school- our house is pretty depressed at the moment, usually I'm good at seeing the bright side but struggling today big time!
    Sorry for the rant!

    “You tried your best and you failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.” Homer.



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  • #1861
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    "NPHET trying to find a balance" by putting us into the most restrictive lockdown in Europe. You can only laugh at the BS at this stage.

    The January lockdown will be the one that finishes us off, it might even begin to tickle those in the comfort of the public sector.


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