Schools closed until February? (part 3)

Thats me wrote: »

Is it really large? Or just few noisy teenagers?

It doesn't need to be large. If a few noisy teenagers/students infected and that spreads to their families it can much more serious. It's very hard to police what's going on in people's houses.

I hope it will work but with a lot of young people losing work, studying from homeand having very little to do it can get very tempting to meet other people. Hopefully they will have the sense to stay away from their parents or grandparents. I don't think they don't care but that age group is programmed to socialise. At that age quiet evening with my parents was just about the least appealing thing to do.

Scoondal wrote: »

The "remote learning" was laughable in my child's class last April. They are trying to get it going again just in case the schools are closed again. Even now, simply registering is like a proposition from Liechtenstein. Ridiculous.

So what do you have to register on?

khalessi wrote: »

At that age you didnt have to deal with a pandemic. Ive 5 nieces and nephews in their teens all of whom stayed at home during lockdown and were happy to see their friends virtually on the various media platforms, playing games and chatting. They should have respect enough for their family to stay at home.

And we have employees in that age bracket who were happy to snap chat their house parties. Not to me but none of them had the sense to keep it away from OH. There can be a big difference between what people should do and what they actually do. And with time people get tired of restrictions, especially those who are not overly affected by consequences. I'm not saying it's everyone, it just has to be enough. Anyway for all our sakes I hope it works...

If this doesn't work what next?

What will be acceptable.

Thats me wrote: »

Can you formulate more precisely - is it large or not? Do you have any bit of hard data on it?

Higher numbers what i heard was about 2K people.

For me it looks strange that around 2K trying to ensure the rest of population that there is no reason in protective measures making discomfort to them just because of some flu-like infection with negligible fatality rate... Only around 2K to the time.

What is large and what is negligible in this case?



Using less damage priciple, it seem logical to simply put these teenager into into prison and nobody will die Or you would prefer sacrifice yourself in the name of democracy?

Are you drunk because I can't make any sense of that?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/covid-19-backlog-forces-hse-to-skip-calls-to-thousands-of-close-contacts-1.4386512

Thousands of close contacts of positive Covid-19 cases from over a three day period will not be contacted by the HSE because the contact tracing system was overwhelmed by cases last weekend.

The HSE has said that it will send a text message on Wednesday to between 2,000 and 2,500 people, who have already been informed by text of their infection, asking them to tell their own close contacts to contact their GPs immediately to seek a Covid-19 test.

Normally contact tracers call newly-infected people to ask for their close contacts and then call those close contacts to arrange for them to be tested to stem transmission of the disease.

However, the HSE’s contact tracers faced an unprecedented number of confirmed cases last weekend, resulting in a backlog of cases over three days, from Friday to Sunday.

It was decided not to contact the infected people for their close contacts over fears this would lead to a delay of days in contact tracing and to concentrate instead on tracing the contacts of Monday’s cases to avoid a backlog given the continuing high of cases being reported daily.


Vulnerable people aged over 70 and schoolchildren among the confirmed Covid-19 cases over the three days are, however, being called and their close contacts sought and contacted.

So we need to take it on complete ****ing blind faith schools are safe, its not even that they aren't contact tracing correctly in schools, they just aren't contact tracing any more

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

These 'school teams' that Norma announced his morning, what will be their purpose? Is it gonna be another layer of bureaucracy?

Missed that. What did she say about them? Are they the inspectors pretending to be Covid inspectors?

khalessi wrote: »

Missed that. What did she say about them? Are they the inspectors pretending to be Covid inspectors?

Are they the covid inspector inspectors?

khalessi wrote: »

Missed that. What did she say about them? Are they the inspectors pretending to be Covid inspectors?

When she was questioned about contact not working in schools she suddenly announced these 'school teams'. Wouldn't be surprised if it meant that ISM in schools were to take on contact tracing and organising of tests for the school community. That would not surprise me at all.

khalessi wrote: »

oh FFS that would be ridiculous.:pac::pac::pac:
The whole school situation is a farce

WHat was she on, must have a look

One of the morning commute shows. Sorry I can't remember which one.

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

When she was questioned about contact not working in schools she suddenly announced these 'school teams'. Wouldn't be surprised if it meant that ISM in schools were to take on contact tracing and organising of tests for the school community. That would not surprise me at all.

khalessi wrote: »

oh FFS that would be ridiculous.:pac::pac::pac:
The whole school situation is a farce

WHat was she on, must have a look

You mean the way that hospital management does it for hospital staff, and nursing home management organise it for nursing home staff?

blanch152 wrote: »

I would say not, given the attitude to them on these pages alone.

Attitude to who?

blanch152 wrote: »

I would say not, given the attitude to them on these pages alone.

There is no attitude on here towards contact tracers. Where are you getting that?

The system has fallen apart. Positive cases from Friday, Saturday and Sunday of last week will receive a text tomorrow telling to contact who they consider to be a close contzct and ask them to co that their GP. This is approximately 2500 people who will receive that text tomorrow.

The system falling apart is no reflection on the tracers, it is a reflection on the people in charge who didn't use the summer months to setup a fit for purpose track and trace. It is a reflection on those idiots who continually ignore and flout the regulations that are there to try and avoid the mess we now find ourselves in.

khalessi wrote: »

oh FFS that would be ridiculous.:pac::pac::pac:
The whole school situation is a farce

WHat was she on, must have a look

It was on the News at One on RTE today where at around 03:18 she referred to 'school teams' being put in place after midterm.

I tried unsucessfully to add a link to the interview, but if you google 'rte radio news at one norma foley' you should be able to find it.