Covid 19 Part XXVII- 62,002 ROI (1,915 deaths) 39,609 NI (724 deaths) (02/11) Read OP

Probes wrote: »

The saddest thing for me out of this whole pandemic is the amount of people that seem to have decided that those with underlying conditions and older people are somehow not important enough to save. Since when did we start thinking this way?

Its the way its been for a long time

Residents from nursing homes rarely get taken to hospital when they are dieing, doctor is called, morphine given

Happens daily and in big numbers, we dont try and save them

We let them die and society agrees with it in silence

Hear no evil, see no evil

caveat emptor wrote: »

Huh so they assume that the kid in school got it at home. Regardless of when public health contact the family.

So if a kid gets symptoms and subsequently tests positive. They are deemed a "complex contact"

By the time they get round to contacting the family they are probably infected and so can be deemed to have contracted the virus at home.

Handy circular logic that. Nothing to see.

More context on that.

https://twitter.com/deegilhawley/status/1318506158420905984?s=21

harr wrote: »

Some absolutely nutters on line , it’s a scary taught that the once small number of people who believed in every conspiracy theory are now being joined by what seems thousands .. I know well educated people who would have always been level headed now firmly believe in the “scamdemic” and that the daily deaths are completely made up .
I do worry what way the country is headed and what society my kids are growing up in.. you would wonder at this stage if the internet/ social media is actually a good thing.

The problem is that our mainstream media have totally left the door open for this kind of stuff to creep in.

You've got news on the TV 24/7 and they just don't use that time to really inform people.

What is a "case" for example?
A positive test, yes?
Is the test for Covid-19 specifically or for coronaviruses in general?
Is it possible for the test to be positive if you have had a coronavirus (or Covid 19) in the past but are OK now?

Why are such a high % of tests negative?
Why are all these people being tested?
These folks have symptoms or just felt like getting a test or what?
What's with all the false positives?
What's the rate of false positves?

Even with masks you could ask a lot of questions about materials and re-use and disposal that just isn't being covered.

What this all does is creates a situation where even well read or well educated people have large gaps in their knowledge and the only people willing to address these gaps are fringe "content creators" with an agenda to push.

The mainstream could have easily addressed so much of the publics information gaps and objections and skepticism but they chose not to.

I see people going around all the time with masks under noses and under chins and all kinds of craziness that seems to be everything except obeying the rules. Are these folk just uneducated or are they doing it deliberately? There's no way to tell.

Why don't media companies just assume that we need to have this stuff explained in detail and with complete honesty and then we'd all be better off.

Internet and social media is a bad thing here but only because people are stuck with going to those platforms to get any kind of substantial information and unfortunately there are people out there ready to take advantage of that by dressing up total bullsh!t as "the facts".

Even something as simple as contextualizing the daily cases by presenting them side by side with the daily tests. So we might be having cases at levels higher than we had back in May but surely we are doing a lot more testing now?

A big part of the "scamdemic" rhetoric is built on top of "don't trust the media".

Why would you trust the media?
At best they are poorly informing people.
At worst they are outright lying.