Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

AlphaDelta1 · 19-10-2020 07:00AM

Massively support moving to L5 restrictions myself but only if enforcement is made a priority otherwise utterly pointless.

Antares35 · 19-10-2020 07:01AM

JTMan wrote: »

Anyone know if the new restrictions will apply from midnight tonight or midnight Tuesday? Thanks.

If they announce that non essential retail is closing and give a two day window, the panic loony Christmas shoppers will cause a spike in two weeks. Look at what happened in Smyths a couple of weeks ago because there was a mention of level five.

Man with broke phone · 19-10-2020 07:02AM

Just reading the last few pages and looking at the report in the independant, seems people want a level 5 lockdown but with shops schools and building sites and factories open.

Any word on a vaccine?

xhomelezz · 19-10-2020 07:04AM

Can't wait to see what they gonna come up with. Would bet any money, it's going to be another half arsed package of restrictions. I don't think there will be any enforcement of anything. But could be wrong..

octsol · 19-10-2020 07:12AM

Will sport be impacted by new restrictions?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 19-10-2020 07:13AM

octsol wrote: »

Will sport be impacted by new restrictions?

Yes. Depending on the restrictions.

stephenjmcd · 19-10-2020 07:15AM

octsol wrote: »

Will sport be impacted by new restrictions?

Depends what the sport is and what level it's being played at

SEPT 23 1989 · 19-10-2020 07:25AM

We will be back to square one by the end of November this mish mash of rules won't work

the corpo · 19-10-2020 07:31AM

I still believe all we really need is a massive effort to get people behind the simple stuff, Social distancing, washing hands. Without enforcement, any restrictions will be ignored by those who don't care, so make them care.

The "this is 2m" that was posted on pavements everywhere was hugely effective, but in my area at the very least they're totally worn away and need to be repainted. If people aren't seeing the message, they can't get it.

Why not a war time PR effort, posters on lamp posts, "Your country needs you....not to party", "Your country need you...to wash your hands"?

amadangomor · 19-10-2020 07:37AM

irishrover99 wrote: »

Get over yourself. It was a joke.

Mine was too, get over yourself.

morebabies · 19-10-2020 07:37AM

These restrictions, if they match what has been leaked, will have no impact on my family whatsoever. My kids will still be mixing with about 1200 other students and teachers and still allowed to see the grandparents. Is the virus OK with this?

amadangomor · 19-10-2020 07:39AM

FrogmanBegins wrote: »

It really disturbs me how people can romanticize sending millions of teenage boys off to shoot, bomb and bayonet each other in the much as if it's some ideal to live up to.

Yeh, should have let Hitler have his way and let the nutjob take over.

You might have a point with WW1 but WW2 had to be fought.

khalessi · 19-10-2020 07:40AM

morebabies wrote: »

These restrictions, if they match what has been leaked, will have no impact on my family whatsoever. My kids will still be mixing with about 1200 other students and teachers and still allowed to see the grandparents. Is the virus OK with this?

Virus says yes, as it is scared of schools, cant get through bubbles and pods.

is_that_so · 19-10-2020 07:47AM

Some thoughts on why we need to see an exit strategy spelt out.

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/economy/lockdown-lobby-needs-to-explain-why-this-time-would-be-different-1.4384086

Fuascailteoir · 19-10-2020 07:50AM

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Fair point, but they have to try something, what else can they do?

Tackle the main cause of the spread: the GAA combined with post match celebrations.

beggars_bush · 19-10-2020 07:52AM

Fuascailteoir wrote: »

Tackle the main cause of the spread: the GAA combined with post match celebrations.

In a few cases, sure

You can't blame the gaa for every infection

suicide_circus · 19-10-2020 07:53AM

the corpo wrote: »

I still believe all we really need is a massive effort to get people behind the simple stuff, Social distancing, washing hands. Without enforcement, any restrictions will be ignored by those who don't care, so make them care.

The "this is 2m" that was posted on pavements everywhere was hugely effective, but in my area at the very least they're totally worn away and need to be repainted. If people aren't seeing the message, they can't get it.

Why not a war time PR effort, posters on lamp posts, "Your country needs you....not to party", "Your country need you...to wash your hands"?

It's not that people don't know what's required due to a lack of signage etc, it's that they don't give a tupenny sh1te what the requirements are. Same way people know the speed limit is but regularly exceed it

Fuascailteoir · 19-10-2020 07:53AM

beggars_bush wrote: »

In a few cases, sure

You can't blame the gaa for every infection

They triggered the initial spread into the wider community. It took root then. They need to own up to what they caused

stephenjmcd · 19-10-2020 07:53AM

Irish times : "However, there seemed to be general agreement the escalation in restrictions would not last six weeks. “It’s much too long and will not give anybody hope,” said one Minister."

Yeah let's see about that, we all know how this goes, 3 or 4 weeks and then oh we need 2 more weeks.

eviltimeban · 19-10-2020 07:55AM

Infini wrote: »

Would be nice if Gyms could stay open as well if only with reduced numbers even as I haven't heard of any problems with them so far.

+1. Haven't heard anything at all about gyms. The gym I go to is often empty, I'm the only one there or perhaps two others who are across the hall. There's no interaction.

And when there are more people, it's restricted to 8 and you work out in a marked off area. Spray bottles to wipe equipment down. Hand sanitiser when you enter. Toilets are closed but there's a sink to wash your hands. Windows and doors are all open, there's always a breeze.

I really missed the gym last time and it took me ages to get back to the level I was at, I'm really hoping if they do close it'll be 3 weeks only.

thelad95 · 19-10-2020 07:55AM

Fuascailteoir wrote: »

Tackle the main cause of the spread: the GAA combined with post match celebrations.

The GAA community (not the actual playing of games) has certainly been a contributor in recent weeks but are definitely not the "main cause".

SEPT 23 1989 · 19-10-2020 07:56AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Irish times : "However, there seemed to be general agreement the escalation in restrictions would not last six weeks. “It’s much too long and will not give anybody hope,” said one Minister."

Yeah let's see about that, we all know how this goes, 3 or 4 weeks and then oh we need 2 more weeks.

And then they start running out of road

screamer · 19-10-2020 07:57AM

I honestly cannot see how level 4 plus or whatever they are talking about doing now is going to help. The virus was, in the spring spreading through closed environments in nursing homes etc. Now, it is rampant in the general population. There’s far more cases out there than testing is detecting, and with the lack of people following guidelines and indeed no enforcement of those guidelines, this thing will just spread and keep spreading, restrictions or not. 3 to 4 weeks won’t put a dent in the case numbers, and we cannot stay in this lockdown cycle. We’d be far better off to spend that money on giving out proper PPE to citizens and trying to get on with things. I think the horse has bolted in terms of controlling the spread of covid.

pjohnson · 19-10-2020 08:00AM

The fixation with schools is bizzare. Why are Martin and Foley so adamant to make the daftest decision possible.

With the amount of community cases now it makes no sense to keep schools open. Even just extend/bring forward midterm for a week or two till numbers drop and then re-open but leaving them as is looks odd.

weldoninhio · 19-10-2020 08:00AM

Curious_Case wrote: »

Just a thought --

Is there any provision for some kind of "travel pass" whereby you visit your local station (Garda), describe your intended trip and seek a stamped pass that will get you through checkpoints.

If not, one might attempt to travel through several counties, with a reason that satisfies the first few checkpoints, only to be told to turn back by the next one.

No checkpoint can tell you to turn back.

is_that_so · 19-10-2020 08:02AM

eviltimeban wrote: »

+1. Haven't heard anything at all about gyms. The gym I go to is often empty, I'm the only one there or perhaps two others who are across the hall. There's no interaction.

And when there are more people, it's restricted to 8 and you work out in a marked off area. Spray bottles to wipe equipment down. Hand sanitiser when you enter. Toilets are closed but there's a sink to wash your hands. Windows and doors are all open, there's always a breeze.

I really missed the gym last time and it took me ages to get back to the level I was at, I'm really hoping if they do close it'll be 3 weeks only.

From reading poster experiences, chatting to people in RL and from seeing this in my own gym they really have taken it very seriously as have the members. Sadly, that may not be enough despite the enormous well-being they bring, I expect them to have to close.

is_that_so · 19-10-2020 08:03AM

pjohnson wrote: »

The fixation with schools is bizzare. Why are Martin and Foley so adamant to make the daftest decision possible.

With the amount of community cases now it makes no sense to keep schools open. Even just extend/bring forward midterm for a week or two till numbers drop and then re-open but leaving them as is looks odd.

The mid-term is at the end of this week so it could be argued that there's a natural "circuit breaker" already built in.

stephenjmcd · 19-10-2020 08:05AM

is_that_so wrote: »

From reading poster experiences, chatting to people in RL and from seeing this in my own gym they really have taken it very seriously as have the members. Sadly, that may not be enough despite the enormous well-being they bring, I expect them to have to close.

Yup my own gym only reopened 2 weeks ago, took them longer as they were making changes to create more space, knocked a few walls and created more spacious areas, removed the studios and created a very large open plan floor.

There's only been around 20 max any time I've gone even at what would have previously been very busy times.

They have a cleaner all day going around wiping down equipment but everyone is doing it themselves, everything you need to wipe down the equipment signposted and easily available throughout the gym.

All very well run and I've not felt unsafe at all, felt safer than when they were open in March.

Multipass · 19-10-2020 08:06AM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Irish times : "However, there seemed to be general agreement the escalation in restrictions would not last six weeks. “It’s much too long and will not give anybody hope,” said one Minister."

Yeah let's see about that, we all know how this goes, 3 or 4 weeks and then oh we need 2 more weeks.

Just another two weeks, just another 4 weeks, if you all behave you can have Christmas.

wadacrack · 19-10-2020 08:08AM

I dont see the Ro dropping below 1.0 with schools open and some colleges. Theirs students living in accommodation and travelling home at weekends too. Level 4 for probably 4 weeks and Im not sure it will have the impact people are expecting

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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