Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

JP100 · 18-10-2020 11:35PM

School in Ashbourne being closed from tomorrow because of a number of positive cases across the school.

FrogmanBegins · 18-10-2020 11:45PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

People in the first world should help pay for the vaccine for people in third world countries. This is a global pandemic. Some things are more important than money.

Really I think in a lot of third world countries covid is just another disease to add to a very very long list.

Cilldara_2000 · 18-10-2020 11:46PM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Haha, you think average young people owned their own homes in the 90s
We didn't , and mortgages in the 90s were flying up from 13.5% to16% at one stage.
You can't blame a whole generation for a whole load of bankers, government and stockbrokers issues that were beyond their control .
No one had it easy , you can relax !

Yes I do think the average young person owned their own home in 1991. 68.4% of people aged 25 to 34 marked down on the 1991 census that they owned their own home, compared with 30% in 2016.

Source: http://publicpolicy.ie/papers/housing-in-ireland-changing-trends-in-headship-rates-and-tenure-by-age-group/

46 Long · 18-10-2020 11:47PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

It's pretty much stupidity or just selfishness if you're going for a test for covid and then go into a cafe to order a cup of coffee.
The garage in a village near us and one of the pubs near us has been shut down because the owner of the garage went into work while waiting on the results of their test and to the pub to celebrate after a local match.
Test came back positive. All his staff tested positive since and three of the pub staff also. Heard yesterday that the owner of the pub is looking to see if there is anyway legally that they can go after him for loss of earnings.
I don't think that the pub owners will get anywhere with this but locally he's dirt now apparently and it isn't going to do his business any favors once it opens again.
If he had passed it on unknowingly people would be sympathetic, but not when he acted the c*nt and didn't follow the guidelines given.

There's been a nasty re-emergence of the vindictive curtain-twitchers since this whole thing started. Anyone who makes a mistake or a lapse in judgement is now 'dirt' and we jump straight to thinking about legal action to punish the slightest transgression.

majcos · 18-10-2020 11:49PM

HeyV wrote: »

Forgive my ignorance, what is significant about the Beacon hospital?

It’s a private hospital. Admissions there are mostly elective scheduled admissions. It does have an emergency department but it’s not open 24 hours. Closed at night and on Sundays and bank holidays. Was operating a phone triage for a period during last few months and not accepting any walk ins. Allowing walk in patients again since August. It has cared for some patients with Covid but not very many as does not have a 24 hour ED with open access to all.

18-10-2020 11:50PM

FrogmanBegins wrote: »

Really I think in a lot of third world countries covid is just another disease to add to a very very long list.

So let's just not help them??

18-10-2020 11:51PM

46 Long wrote: »

There's been a nasty re-emergence of the vindictive curtain-twitchers since this whole thing started. Anyone who makes a mistake or a lapse in judgement is now 'dirt' and we jump straight to thinking about legal action to punish the slightest transgression.

Nothing vindictive about how the locals feel about how he acted, he didn't make a mistake or have a lapse in judgement, he acted the c*nt. You would want to be living with your head in the sand not to know that if you have to have a covid test you have to isolate. If you don't you're just being a c*nt.

Away With The Fairies · 18-10-2020 11:53PM

Don't know if I should laugh or cry at this https://youtu.be/CYmn76Y50Us

Loafing Oaf · 18-10-2020 11:53PM

DubInMeath wrote: »

Heard yesterday that the owner of the pub is looking to see if there is anyway legally that they can go after him for loss of earnings.

I wonder are we going to see lots of lawsuits arising out of these sorts of situations in the coming months and years. I'm not sure what level of proof would be required that someone caught the disease off the individual in question.

Rjd2 · 18-10-2020 11:54PM

JP100 wrote: »

School in Ashbourne being closed from tomorrow because of a number of positive cases across the school.

Makes no sense this, I have been reliably informed its not in the schools.

jammiedodgers · 18-10-2020 11:54PM

Fungi knew the army was being mobilised and got the fuck out of here

FrogmanBegins · 18-10-2020 11:55PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

So let's just not help them??

No I mean they probably don't see it with the urgency that we in the west do but go ahead and put what I'm saying in the worst possible light.

Rrrrrr2 · 18-10-2020 11:58PM

46 Long wrote: »

There's been a nasty re-emergence of the vindictive curtain-twitchers since this whole thing started. Anyone who makes a mistake or a lapse in judgement is now 'dirt' and we jump straight to thinking about legal action to punish the slightest transgression.

Quite. The modern equivalent of witch burnings really. You can see parallels right through history of how various lynch mobs got going. Up to and including the Nazis. On a tribal level much human thinking hasn’t moved on at all very much- the basic instincts are all there still- seeking blame and retribution

FrogmanBegins · 18-10-2020 11:59PM

jammiedodgers wrote: »

Fungi knew the army was being mobilised and got the fuck out of here

Fungi's gathering a dolphin army like in the Simpsons to conquer us while we're at our weakest.

Rrrrrr2 · 19-10-2020 12:02AM

FrogmanBegins wrote: »

Fungi's gathering a dolphin army like in the Simpsons to conquer us while we're at our weakest.

Fungi would be as useful in “fighting” an endemic respiratory virus really

Irish Steve · 19-10-2020 12:02AM

JP100 wrote: »

School in Ashbourne being closed from tomorrow because of a number of positive cases across the school.

Even more damning is that the school have been forced to post on social media at short notice because there has been no contact from HSE with guidance after positive cases on Friday.

Should come as no surprise I suppose, certain departments of the HSE only working 9 to 5 Monday to Friday. Not exactly helpful in the midst of a pandemic that doesn't recognise office hours!

Rrrrrr2 · 19-10-2020 12:02AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

I wonder are we going to see lots of lawsuits arising out of these sorts of situations in the coming months and years. I'm not sure what level of proof would be required that someone caught the disease off the individual in question.

Good luck trying to proof it definitively

19-10-2020 12:08AM

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Quite. The modern equivalent of witch burnings really. You can see parallels right through history of how various lynch mobs got going. Up to and including the Nazis. On a tribal level much human thinking hasn’t moved on at all very much- the basic instincts are all there still- seeking blame and retribution

My arse, this isn't like someone passed on covid unknowingly.
They were sent for a test because they had symptoms and decided to ignore the guidelines and put other people in harms way and out of a job.
If they infected you by doing so would you be OK it, because I wouldn't and don't think anyone else being honest would be.

Rrrrrr2 · 19-10-2020 12:08AM

MattDamonIsOK wrote: »

Yes NPHET and the government have lost the attention of a large section of the public.

My wider social circle through playing football, on WhatsApp groups, family, friends and work colleagues are all of the same opinion over the last few days -

I couldn’t give a rats arse what level comes out tomorrow, if it’s level 8. I’ll be getting on with my life and working remotely, if I can’t go to the gym I’ll exercise at home.

But at weekends I’ll be driving out of the county to see the in-laws, or you can damn well be sure I’ll be going over the border to visit my own family and get out of the urban jungle to do the head a bit of good. Not mixing with a lot of people, just getting on with life, wearing our masks and washing our hands in all settings we are asked to. No issue with that.
If I’m turned away by the Garda, I’ll be going another way.

This isn’t in any way an act of defiance, it’s just a true reflection Of the thoughts of a lot people at the moment, I don’t think these experts realize that. I saw one earlier Anthony steynes or whatever his name is, saying he “believes people don’t mind doing another 8-10 week lockdown if they’re given clear messages” I almost spat out my tea.
Completely out of touch.

That’s just the reality of it, I won’t be held back for any Mary or John. And we have elderly at risk members on both me and my partners side.

If some people want to go and raid the supermarkets again now tomorrow evening like eejits and hibernate like a fat squirrel then be my guest, just don’t expect the rest of us to, and mind your own business when you do, worry about yourself.

I could have written this- hear hear! Good to see so many more sensible logical people about this time. Gives me great hope that this whole “strategy” is going to fall very flat on its arse rather soon.
I mildly bought into last time but there’s -zero buy in this time.
I also let my fitness regime suffer too by getting sucked into the whole lazy narrative but will be going full on home workouts if I have to too

Loafing Oaf · 19-10-2020 12:11AM

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Good luck trying to proof it definitively

Is the 'balance of probabilities' not the standard of proof required in civil cases?

boggerman1 · 19-10-2020 12:11AM

MattDamonIsOK wrote: »

Yes NPHET and the government have lost the attention of a large section of the public.

My wider social circle through playing football, on WhatsApp groups, family, friends and work colleagues are all of the same opinion over the last few days -

I couldn’t give a rats arse what level comes out tomorrow, if it’s level 8. I’ll be getting on with my life and working remotely, if I can’t go to the gym I’ll exercise at home.

But at weekends I’ll be driving out of the county to see the in-laws, or you can damn well be sure I’ll be going over the border to visit my own family and get out of the urban jungle to do the head a bit of good. Not mixing with a lot of people, just getting on with life, wearing our masks and washing our hands in all settings we are asked to. No issue with that.
If I’m turned away by the Garda, I’ll be going another way.

This isn’t in any way an act of defiance, it’s just a true reflection Of the thoughts of a lot people at the moment, I don’t think these experts realize that. I saw one earlier Anthony steynes or whatever his name is, saying he “believes people don’t mind doing another 8-10 week lockdown if they’re given clear messages” I almost spat out my tea.
Completely out of touch.

That’s just the reality of it, I won’t be held back for any Mary or John. And we have elderly at risk members on both me and my partners side.

If some people want to go and raid the supermarkets again now tomorrow evening like eejits and hibernate like a fat squirrel then be my guest, just don’t expect the rest of us to, and mind your own business when you do, worry about yourself.

I’ve switched off completely from listening to anymore bull**** from nphet or dr.cervical check houlihan.we had a family wedding last week and I didn’t think once about the thing all day and since then turned off rte and the rest of the lectures from the rest of the media.

Non solum non ambulabit · 19-10-2020 12:12AM

bb1234567 wrote: »

Pretty shocking - Ethnic minorities make up just 27% of the US population but almost 50% of COVID deaths in the US have been ethnic minorities

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6942e1.htm?s_cid=mm6942e1_w

It is far from shocking. This pandemic is all about the exposed poor and shielded wealthy. It is a class based event as always. Poor get shafted, rich get richer.

Ignacius · 19-10-2020 12:13AM

46 Long wrote: »

There's been a nasty re-emergence of the vindictive curtain-twitchers since this whole thing started. Anyone who makes a mistake or a lapse in judgement is now 'dirt' and we jump straight to thinking about legal action to punish the slightest transgression.

That is quite a serious lapse of judgement. The publican would not only be looking at his loss of earning but perhaps reckless endangerment. But as was said he won’t get anywhere.
Not sure if I agree that this equates to “curtain twitching”. The lad was stupid and he deserves his reputation to be affected by this.
He would have to be living under a rock at this stage to not know he should be isolating, FML.

Cilldara_2000 · 19-10-2020 12:13AM

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

I could have written this- hear hear! Good to see so many more sensible logical people about this time. Gives me great hope that this whole “strategy” is going to fall very flat on its arse rather soon.
I mildly bought into last time but there’s -zero buy in this time.
I also let my fitness regime suffer too by getting sucked into the whole lazy narrative but will be going full on home workouts if I have to too

Disgusting post. The strategy falling flat means a collapsed health service and people with all sorts of curable or manageable conditions dying prematurely.

Rrrrrr2 · 19-10-2020 12:15AM

DubInMeath wrote: »

My arse, this isn't like someone passed on covid unknowingly.
They were sent for a test because they had symptoms and decided to ignore the guidelines and put other people in harms way and out of a job.
If they infected you by doing so would you be OK it, because I wouldn't and don't think anyone else being honest would be.

Yes we get it. I think we all heard you the first time and we can imagine you with your big pitchfork running around the place.
If I was “infected” with a respiratory virus then I’d accept that as part and parcel of living on planet earth and know that I don’t inhabit some sterile biome.
I’ve often had various illnesses/viral infections- I didn’t go around like a crazed lunatic looking for where I might of picked it up and off whom. I recovered and got on with life. I suggest you and the rest of your Lynch mob best do the same thing

Ignacius · 19-10-2020 12:17AM

Rrrrrr2 wrote: »

Quite. The modern equivalent of witch burnings really. You can see parallels right through history of how various lynch mobs got going. Up to and including the Nazis. On a tribal level much human thinking hasn’t moved on at all very much- the basic instincts are all there still- seeking blame and retribution

You know you are winning an argument when you start bandying about the Nazis. Especially about a lad acting like a d!ck when he had covid.

Rrrrrr2 · 19-10-2020 12:18AM

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

Disgusting post. The strategy falling flat means a collapsed health service and people with all sorts of curable or manageable conditions dying prematurely.

Yes we get it, you are brain washed. It doesn’t mean the rest of us have to join in and indulge your delusions.

Non solum non ambulabit · 19-10-2020 12:20AM

Goldengirl wrote: »

Haha, you think average young people owned their own homes in the 90s
We didn't , and mortgages in the 90s were flying up from 13.5% to16% at one stage.
You can't blame a whole generation for a whole load of bankers, government and stockbrokers issues that were beyond their control .
No one had it easy , you can relax !

Can you not understand the actual facts presented?

Stick to health because you seem clueless on macro economics.

Rrrrrr2 · 19-10-2020 12:20AM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Is the 'balance of probabilities' not the standard of proof required in civil cases?

I’m not a legal person but good luck trying to prove that- there’s any number of daily human and touch interactions that can cause a transmissions. Could be any number of paths really

eagle eye · 19-10-2020 12:20AM

Rrrrrr2 wrote:

Yes we get it, you are brain washed. It doesnâ€™t mean the rest of us have to join in and indulge your delusions.

He's not brainwashed, he's talking perfect sense.

You in the other hand are coming across as a member of the unread, uneducated who think they are intelligent.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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