General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

giveitholly · 18-10-2020 04:38PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Think their would be a few 404 errors on boards with the amount of fume

It would be priceless in fairness

This is it · 18-10-2020 04:40PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

The outage is because none of the above Rebel. The outage is because VVD could be out long term and is a crucial player to Liverpool

There wouldn't be half as much noise about this if he wasn't injured. Players get away with sh1te tackles weekly and all of a sudden this one is different.

It was called out as soon as it happened, no one knew if he was getting up to run it off or heading off the pitch at the time. The outrage is at the inaction of the ref, and possibly VAR. I don't know if the VAR official had his hands tied by some rule or not so I'm not going to lay the blame there just yet.

Players do get away with shyte tackles, but when we have a ref looking at the tackle and we have VAR in the match, they shouldn't get away with dangerous tackles.

My issue here isn't Pickford, the issue is no action taken.

Shanotheslayer · 18-10-2020 04:42PM

BillyHasMates wrote: »

The outrage if you want to call it is that the tackle went completely unpunished. I am sorry but it's not often you see a player, even a keeper, launch himself towards a player off the ground with both legs up in the air. It was dangerous and completely reckless. I am actually surprised you are trying to downplay it as a bit run of the mill. Everton should have been playing the remaining 80 or so minutes with 10 men which would have improved our chances of winning the game. The fact you got a point and the tackle put an influental player out for potentially the season is going to understandably going to irk Liverpool fans even more.

I haven't downplayed anything. I already said it was a horror tackle yesterday and should have been red. The referee/VAR fcked up. What else more do you want me to say?

You want Pickford to have a 3 match ban? That probably suits half the Everton fanbase considering most want him dropped.

The outrage I'm referring to is the Liverpool fans on boards calling Everton players 'fcking rats' and always trying to injury Liverpool players which is absolute bullsh1t.

Edit: Titan mentioned about it with Mori and Origi, tbh I don't remember that individual football instance and reactions. I watched the clip but I don't remember much about it so can't comment on it.

Shanotheslayer · 18-10-2020 04:49PM

This is it wrote: »

My issue here isn't Pickford, the issue is no action taken.

Absolutely no problem with this at all. I'm all for consistency from referees and yesterday display from the refs wasn't good enough across the board. No doubt that will come back to haunt Everton to try 'even it out'

But I think evidently some posters do have the issue with Pickford giving the posts of him

BillyHasMates · 18-10-2020 04:54PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

I haven't downplayed anything. I already said it was a horror tackle yesterday and should have been red. The referee/VAR fcked up. What else more do you want me to say?

You want Pickford to have a 3 match ban? That probably suits half the Everton fanbase considering most want him dropped.

The outrage I'm referring to is the Liverpool fans on boards calling Everton players 'fcking rats' and always trying to injury Liverpool players which is absolute bullsh1t.

I want to see an explanation from referee body or the premier league as to how the tackle was completely overlooked. I think it warrants an explanation. I couldn't care less if Pickford gets a subsequent ban. It won't give us 3 points. I don't see the rats reference anywhere unless it was in a deleted post or on some other media platform. It wasn't in any post you seemed to be directly responding so why bring it up now? Your post I quoted questioned the reason for the 'outrage.' I replied saying I believe you got the reason wrong. You then reply with a different point questioning instead how some Liverpool fans expressed their outrage ( in posts I haven't seen but may be deleted). These are two different points you made though.

j8wk2feszrnpao · 18-10-2020 04:57PM

There was a stat that Everton have 12 reds compared to 4 for Liverpool in the last 40 derbies. So one team is more likely to cause injures. Players now rarely get away with sh1t tackles (we saw it in the the same game; BS excuse.

If Adrian had ended DCL's season in the same way, Shanotheslayer and others Blue's would be outraged/fuming. And they'd be backed by "Mr Thanks any comment against Liverpool" (which says enough).

Shanotheslayer · 18-10-2020 05:00PM

BillyHasMates wrote: »

I want to see an explanation from referee body or the premier league as to how the tackle was completely overlooked. I think it warrants an explanation. I couldn't care less if Pickford gets a subsequent ban. It won't give us 3 points. I don't see the rats reference anywhere unless it was in a deleted post or on some other media platform. It wasn't in any post you seemed to be directly responding so why bring it up now? Your post I quoted questioned the reason for the 'outrage.' I replied saying I believe you got the reason wrong. You then reply with a different point questioning instead how some Liverpool fans expressed their outrage ( in posts I haven't seen but may be deleted). These are two different points you made though.

My point regarding the outrage to summaries - If it wasn't VVD it wouldn't be as much noise surrounding this, this follows the same point of 'Everton trying to injure Liverpool players'. So the outrage linking into 1 point.

It was on this forum unknown if deleted or not but I'm not going to go back searching as it may have been deleted.

In regards the 'outrage' with the Ref/VAR? Absolutely no problem with that as stated previously

On a different note. Gareth Bale is back!

Shanotheslayer · 18-10-2020 05:02PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

There was a stat that Everton have 12 reds compared to 4 for Liverpool in the last 40 derbies. So one team is more likely to cause injures. Players now rarely get away with sh1t tackles (we saw it in the the same game; BS excuse.

If Adrian had ended DCL's season in the same way, Shanotheslayer and others Blue's would be outraged/fuming. And they'd be backed by "Mr Thanks any comment against Liverpool" (which says enough).

Ha. Gerrard did a two footed tackle on naismith no red card? Dirk kuyt flying tackle as well no red card. That's an utterly pointless stat because it's going on the assumption that referees get decisions correct 100% of the time which we both know is not the case?

As for talking about Thanks? Look closer to home and you'll find somebody like every single post that disagrees with me regardless if it involves Liverpool or not. Stupid point to make.

martyos121 · 18-10-2020 05:03PM

Feels weird seeing Bale in a Tottenham shirt again where he isn’t far and away the best player in their team. Kane and Son well ahead of him these days, but if Bale stays fit, that could change.

Guy:Incognito · 18-10-2020 05:05PM

He's done his cruciate to some degree.

Actually, that doesn't feel like the right thing to say. Pickford has done van dijks cruciate .

He's getting operated on.

https://twitter.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/1317873007151513607?s=19

Shanotheslayer · 18-10-2020 05:06PM

What an effort by Kane on his left foot.

Shanotheslayer · 18-10-2020 05:10PM

Great goal by Valbuena

3-1

pjohnson · 18-10-2020 05:10PM

Theres been 16 clean sheets so far this season.

That must be a record low?

j8wk2feszrnpao · 18-10-2020 05:11PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Ha. Gerrard did a two footed tackle on naismith no red card? Dirk kuyt flying tackle as well no red card. That's an utterly pointless stat because it's going on the assumption that referees get decisions correct 100% of the time which we both know is not the case?

As for talking about Thanks? Look closer to home and you'll find somebody like every single post that disagrees with me regardless if it involves Liverpool or not. Stupid point to make.

You've claimed you're unbiased in the past, but keep providing evidence otherwise.
As for the stat, it's even for both teams, as shown by Pickford yesterday. It's a fully valid stat. Just because you don't have the maturity to accept it, does not invalidate it. Check the mirror for stupid claims.

Just easier to put immature kids on ignore.

PsychoPete · 18-10-2020 05:12PM

This just got interesting

Guy:Incognito · 18-10-2020 05:12PM

Interesting finish to this.......

18-10-2020 05:14PM

BillyHasMates wrote: »

I want to see an explanation from referee body or the premier league as to how the tackle was completely overlooked...

I think it would be wholly inappropriate for the Premier League or the refs to explain why it was overlooked.

I get the frustration. But I don't think there should be a system where very important players in very big teams gets some treatment that's not afforded to other players.

RasTa · 18-10-2020 05:16PM

Pickford's challenge was awful but it wasn't done on purpose.

StringerBell · 18-10-2020 05:16PM

Some buzz if spurs let this slip

Shanotheslayer · 18-10-2020 05:16PM

munstermagic11 wrote: »

You've claimed you're unbiased in the past, but keep providing evidence otherwise.
As for the stat, it's even for both teams, as shown by Pickford yesterday. It's a fully valid stat. Just because you don't have the maturity to accept it, does not invalidate it. Check the mirror for stupid claims.

Just easier to put immature kids on ignore.

I'm disputing the stat because of the volume of errors. You are saying it's even based on 1 game, not based over the course of the 40 derbies? I'm not sure on your maths skills, but even would be of the assumption that you can rule out Kuyt/Pickford as even and then Gerrard gets a red so +1? However we could argue about this all fcking day based on yellow cards etc so I don't think there's any point at all

Why would you reply and then say to put on ignore? Talk about childishness.

What evidence have I provided that is biased?

Do I think Pickford should have been sent off? Yes

Do I think Richi should have been sent off? Yes

Lots of bias by me, my oh my!

noodler · 18-10-2020 05:16PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I think it would be wholly inappropriate for the Premier League or the refs to explain why it was overlooked.

I get the frustration. But I don't think there should be a system where very important players in very big teams gets some treatment that's not afforded to other players.

They are gonna have to speak to it.

In the same game Pickford got away with a challenge that ended VVDs season after the whistle was blown but Ricarlson got punished.

We need to know if what Pickford did is acceptable or if they interpreted it as not being punishable because of said whistle.

18-10-2020 05:16PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think it would be wholly inappropriate for the Premier League or the refs to explain why it was overlooked.

I get the frustration. But I don't think there should be a system where very important players in very big teams gets some treatment that's not afforded to other players.

Exactly. Jesus, you would think this is the first time a reckless challenge has occurred and resulted in an injury. It is football, it happens unfortunately.

Agent Coulson · 18-10-2020 05:17PM

Deleted User wrote: »

I think it would be wholly inappropriate for the Premier League or the refs to explain why it was overlooked.

I get the frustration. But I don't think there should be a system where very important players in very big teams gets some treatment that's not afforded to other players.

Other teams including Everton have in the past sent official letters to PGMOL asking for explanations into refereeing decisions in there games.

So this isn't just a big team doing it for the first time Liverpool are in fact following on from what other teams have done.

8-10 · 18-10-2020 05:17PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

Mori and Origi, tbh I don't remember that individual football instance and reactions

I find that hard to believe. It's constantly referenced

Guy:Incognito · 18-10-2020 05:18PM

How did he not at least hit the target there?

Shanotheslayer · 18-10-2020 05:19PM

8-10 wrote: »

I find that hard to believe. It's constantly referenced

When was the last time it was referenced other than today?! You give my memory to much credit mate.

BillyHasMates · 18-10-2020 05:20PM

Shanotheslayer wrote: »

My point regarding the outrage to summaries - If it wasn't VVD it wouldn't be as much noise surrounding this, this follows the same point of 'Everton trying to injure Liverpool players'. So the outrage linking into 1 point.

It was on this forum unknown if deleted or not but I'm not going to go back searching as it may have been deleted.

In regards the 'outrage' with the Ref/VAR? Absolutely no problem with that as stated previously

On a different note. Gareth Bale is back!

The line in your post I took issue with is where you said that players get away with ****e tackles weekly. It is not often at all you see a tackle as dangerous as that and this line you posted reads like you are downplaying it a little. If thats your opinion you seem to be in the minority. There was plenty of outrage when it happened and before the possible extent of the injury became known. Plenty of ex players with no loyalty to Liverpool have called it out on social media. That doesn't happen for your everyday ****e tackle.

StringerBell · 18-10-2020 05:20PM

Is VVD out for the season? Assume that's speculation at this point or has something been confirmed about his time out?

eigrod · 18-10-2020 05:21PM

What a goal. 3-3 lol

Guy:Incognito · 18-10-2020 05:21PM

Jose for president.

General Premier League Thread 2020-21 - Mod Notes in 1st post. [Updated 17/12/20]

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