Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Despite the massive Dublin number Dublin is lower down the county by county incidence number showing that level 3 did something but not nearly enough.

I'm convinced the problem is that Dublin was dragged back up because the rate of infection was soaring everywhere else - lots of people travel into Dublin for work, so it was inevitable. Figures not good today but I still feel we'll see numbers stabilise over the next week.

DubInMeath wrote: »

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-nordics-hockey-idUSKBN26U1TR

They're not testing them. Intercounty GAA players are being tested :rolleyes:

Friday night's significant development, however, is the rapid testing structure which will allow for tests to be performed and results returned with 48 hours, crucial in allowing a streamlined flow for a particularly compacted championship.

https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/1009/1170601-rapid-covid-19-testing-for-gaa-players-to-be-rolled-out/

DubInMeath wrote: »

Most of the people you describe in your post would actually benefit from ordering online. Stores like Symths, Dunnes, Argos etc don't give people discounts for turning up at the store and trying to haggle.

A few times when in the store I mentioned the price on their site was cheaper than the instore price because they hadn't updated their site.

True a lot of post offices closed in the last few years, but deliveries are to your home, not the nearest post office. Also true that a lot of older people aren't great with computers or might not have internet access. My dad would be one of these people without access, but he just rings me and says what he or one of his friends are looking for and I order it for them.

Yeh, thanks have tried over the summer to implement and start them off or twin them with people. And have kept reminding to keep 2 weeks of non persibles in their houses. One person very good lives maybe 15 miles away and did some delievrys of food. Our nearest stores got a reader for cards and will deliever but prices way higher. I used to do that with hotels and point to a lower price online. Lidli and aldi and dunnes dont deliever here. Tesco will but has prices cheaper instore as many elders live off their special offers and last time getting a slot was like gold dust and a max no of items didnt go far when looking after more than one household.2 local charitys have closed down last year that would have sorted stuff like this.

Just having not such a good day as I was about to take a break for myself. You know what have just decided if the gov brings this in I am just going to ring up the local gov tds and get them to sort it. Thanks for more ideas.

titan18 wrote: »

GAA players go back into work the following day, which makes it a lot higher risk than something like professional soccer and rugby.

Other countries have shut down some sports too that couldn't be done safely e.g. Netherlands and France banned professional road cycling races in areas

The SSE Airtricity League stops if the GAA stops. Professional means sweet f*ck all in this country.

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

Would you quit painting all older people like Neanderthals. I don't know one person under 75 without a debit or credit card and who couldn't complete a sale online.

Good for you but I do know a few both elderly and middle aged without bank accounts and bank debit credit cards

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The SSE Airtricity League stops if the GAA stops. Professional means sweet f*ck all in this country.

A lot of the Airtrictity league is part time so there’s huge potential for clusters and transmissions.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The SSE Airtricity League stops if the GAA stops. Professional means sweet f*ck all in this country.

The risk is when they're amateur. Things like NBA that you listed were able to bubble their players, so are other sports. Even cycling like in the Tour were able to bubble relatively safely . The GAA can't bubble their players.

is_that_so wrote: »

I really don't care who leaked it, because leaks happen all the time. They should be obliged to clearly explain that chain of events from 2-5, IMO.
A bit dramatic with the peril as Donnelly can dissolve them tomorrow if he chooses, he has that power.
If I were at LC I'd be bringing a case as well. My view was always to run the exams and have that graded mess as a backup for those who didn't want to. They did it in Spain in far worse conditions and with much larger numbers.

No ..the' peril' as stated, is in public anger if they continue to ignore their own emergency team's advice , not from NPHET
As for the leaks, I don't care about them either except government ministers should not be allowed blame public servants for leaks that they have leaked themselves or their advisors, with impunity .
We are not yet living in a Trumpian society where those public servants doing their jobs are ridiculed publicly and blamed incorrectly from TV and Twitter. At least that is not the society I want .

ACitizenErased wrote: »

NFL, NHL, NBA, MLB, La Liga, Ligue 1/2, Seria A/B/C, Bundesliga/Bundesliga 2/3. Liga, Premier League, Championship, League 1, League 2, Vanarama National League, Vanarama Championship, Portuguese Soccer League, all soccer internationals. Just to name a few.

And all using the same rapid testing that the GAA is using for intercounty.
Where's the difference?

How do you know what testing the GAA are using? or if they are all being tested at all?

Edit: Just saw your other post.

ACitizenErased wrote: »

The SSE Airtricity League stops if the GAA stops. Professional means sweet f*ck all in this country.

Might be that all sports able to bubble their players are allowed continue while sports unable to bubble their players ahve to stop.

The GAA players have a huge amount of contacts given that other GAA players are pretty much all contacts and they have close contacts in their workplaces.

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Yes

I've an uncle who saves in the post office with a book

Yes there are always some, who for whatever reason have limited access to services at the best of times and they get by with their basic arrangements in normal times, the situation is obviously worse now and requires other solutions.

The obvious hope is that friends and family can step up and help out in these exceptional times. Even if that is not possible, I spent time on a national helpline during the last lockdown (redeployed), helping to coordinate food deliveries, hospital appointment transport, pension and medical supply collections, scheduled comfort phone calls, even TV repairs... whatever was required, for older isloated people. There were regular calls too from ordinary people volunteering to help out in their own restricted 5km areas.

There are organisations that can help - at least there were at that time. I hope the help network wasn't totally dismantled when we returned to near normal, but I suspect that it probably was and it will have to be reinvented again. We could ask for help from GAA, An Post, Gardai, and local councils at the time. The spirit of cooperation would give you some hope, and it will be needed again, when we restrict further.

i wonder how many of those GAA players that travelled and played the weekend work in schools

niallo27 wrote: »

I can assure you she is not.

My mother is of a similar age, and she wouldn't know how to order anything online either.

Wouldn't agree with views such as "elderly people don't know how to use computers" at all, though.