Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

titan18 · 17-10-2020 08:30PM

niallo27 wrote: »

Ring rte quick, they will love that. You will be famous.

Also, refer to her as Mother every time in your best Norman Bates accent

pc7 · 17-10-2020 08:31PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

I did yes, she didn't! Very strange altogether, but sure look we'll just have to wait it out.

Hope she’s not too sick with it, mind yourselves

Solli · 17-10-2020 08:32PM

DebDynamite wrote: »

So true. It’s extremely frustrating. We have among highest paid hospital consultants in the world (who were due to get a huge payrise this year before the **** hit the fan), and we are amongst the spenders on health per person in Europe, but yet we’re left with this situation. We’d still be in the situation of having bed shortages and people waiting on trollies this winter even if COVID didn’t exist.

Let’s not be under any illusions here - the reason for the proposed lockdown is not to stop people dying from COVID, it’s to stop our pathetically under equipped hospitals becoming overwhelmed. If the hospitals last had greater capacity, there wouldn’t be the calls to lockdown as there are now.

We don’t deserve a good health service. People do take take personal responsibility for their health. Eating processed rubbish and it’s someone else’s fault if they develop health problems

Roger_007 · 17-10-2020 08:36PM

niallo27 wrote: »

How about a plan if numbers are not down and another plan if numbers are down. You know some kind of forward thinking so we might have an actual clue what the **** is going on.

The problem is that nobody has the foggiest idea what the **** is going on.
Posters on this thread and people in general are getting up in a heap over numbers of ‘cases’ being reported every day. Nobody has any idea how many actual ‘cases’ there are. The numbers being reported are the numbers of positive tests. These numbers mean almost nothing. The actual number of people who are , or have recently been, infected is completely unknown. It could be thousands or hundreds of thousands.
The so called ‘test and trace’ system is completely useless. Many of the cases are described as ‘community transmission’ meaning there is nobody to trace as the source of an infection, and the time lag between testing and tracing is so long that testing contacts is way too late.
It would be better to abandon the hugely expensive testing system altogether and just concentrate on treating those who get ill.

zerosugarbuzz · 17-10-2020 08:36PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

I did yes, she didn't! Very strange altogether, but sure look we'll just have to wait it out.

People are getting positive results from the test discovering the most minuscule amount of Covid, Can even be dead Covid many months old.

Away With The Fairies · 17-10-2020 08:37PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

I did yes, she didn't! Very strange altogether, but sure look we'll just have to wait it out.

Very strange indeed. I'm guessing you have to go for a test now. Hope you and your mother are both feeling ok.

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 08:38PM

Solli wrote: »

We don’t deserve a good health service. People do take take personal responsibility for their health. Eating processed rubbish and it’s someone else’s fault if they develop health problems

So if I'm in a car crash and require hospitalisation I don't deserve the services of a good health system because I ate a Big Mac and chips before the crash?

mr_edge_to_you · 17-10-2020 08:47PM

Eamonn Ryan being interviewed on the news.....looks like he's about to fall asleep standing up.

s1ippy · 17-10-2020 08:48PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Not like there are thousands of businesses hanging in limbo or anything. What a joke

Look I'm waiting for a call to hear if my granny is alive or dead knowing that if these restrictions come in, I won't be able to attend her funeral. A lot of people have a lot at stake. With this dithering, things are only going to get worse and worse. I would like to hear from a business owner whose livelihood hangs in the balance what they think the right decision is.

Ellie2008 · 17-10-2020 08:48PM

I completely understand the point that an ICU bed is not just a mattress & can be hard to staff but it feels like we are just straight back to March. We are facing a Level 4/5 when for months not enough has been done to enforce existing restrictions. It should be an offence to leave the house while waiting on a Covid test. And somebody should be prosecuted for it so people get some sense that their actions may have consequences. We are hurtling towards a Level 5 because complete lockdown is presumably easier to enforce. It’s very depressing.

Why have NPHET not banned house visits before now. And they are now saying masks not visors when people have been using visors for months.

Away With The Fairies · 17-10-2020 08:48PM

Will this shyte ever end?

quartz1 · 17-10-2020 08:49PM

Eamon Ryan sayes the Government are going to meet early NEXT week..... Next week

What' a bunch of wasters

Harry Palmr · 17-10-2020 08:50PM

Why is this news on early if there's no new urgent information to tell us

Poorside · 17-10-2020 08:50PM

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

Posters obsession with RTÉ is fairly laughable tbh.

Imagine, getting their news from the national broadcaster, must be great in your ivory tower of perfect information

17-10-2020 08:51PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

So if I'm in a car crash and require hospitalisation I don't deserve the services of a good health system because I ate a Big Mac and chips before the crash?

So long as the Big Mac and chips cost €9 or more, you wont have to worry about getting covid

Funsterdelux · 17-10-2020 08:51PM

s1ippy wrote: »

Look I'm waiting for a call to hear if my granny is alive or dead knowing that if these restrictions come in, I won't be able to attend her funeral. A lot of people have a lot at stake. With this dithering, things are only going to get worse and worse. I would like to hear from a business owner whose livelihood hangs in the balance what they think the right decision is.

How'd the pizzas turn out?

MelbourneMan · 17-10-2020 08:52PM

Ellie2008 wrote: »

Why have NPHET not banned house visits before now.

NPHET does not have the remit to legislate. It is am epidemiological advisory body.

Funsterdelux · 17-10-2020 08:52PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Why is this news on early if there's no new urgent information to tell us

The big big movie was finished.

Cluedo Monopoly · 17-10-2020 08:53PM

The situation is very concerning.

stephenjmcd · 17-10-2020 08:53PM

No cabinet meeting this weekend, next cabinet meeting already pre scheduled for early next week.

All pointing towards a rejection of NPHET again

Funsterdelux · 17-10-2020 08:55PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No cabinet meeting this weekend, next cabinet meeting already pre scheduled for early next week.

All pointing towards a rejection of NPHET again

A lack of action is a clear rejection.

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 08:55PM

MelbourneMan wrote: »

NPHET does not have the remit to legislate. It is am epidemiological advisory body.

I read yesterday there is no epidemiologist on the Nphet committee is that true does anyone know?

Goldengirl · 17-10-2020 08:55PM

Ellie2008 wrote: »

I completely understand the point that an ICU bed is not just a mattress & can be hard to staff but it feels like we are just straight back to March. We are facing a Level 4/5 when for months not enough has been done to enforce existing restrictions. It should be an offence to leave the house while waiting on a Covid test. And somebody should be prosecuted for it so people get some sense that their actions may have consequences. We are hurtling towards a Level 5 because complete lockdown is presumably easier to enforce. It’s very depressing.

Why have NPHET not banned house visits before now. And they are now saying masks not visors when people have been using visors for months.

NPHET were looking for level 5 2 weeks ago..I am sure house visits would have been banned with this .
Also , nobody was ever advised to use visors . Some people decided that for themselves as a way to get around wearing a mask .

Derek Zoolander · 17-10-2020 08:56PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Excellent article that was retweeted last week by Cillian DeGascun, touches upon superspreading as defining feature of the virus, with overdispersion (k) as the key metric and backward tracing necessary for effectively controlling pandemic.

Hitoshi O****ani, a member of the National COVID-19 Cluster Taskforce at Japan’s Ministry of Health, Labour and Welfare and a professor at Tohoku University who told me that Japan focused on the overdispersion impact from early on, likens his country’s approach to looking at a forest and trying to find the clusters, not the trees. Meanwhile, he believes, the Western world was getting distracted by the trees, and got lost among them. To fight a super-spreading disease effectively, policy makers need to figure out why super-spreading happens, and they need to understand how it affects everything, including our contact-tracing methods and our testing regimes.

https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/09/k-overlooked-variable-driving-pandemic/616548/

First part of successful contact tracing is 'Investigate'.

It’s an interesting article - what’s worrying for me is that a member of NPHET tweets it out now rather than implementing it as policy... NPHET consists of mainly HSE and DoH leaders... they have huge remit on test and trace but where is the strategy beyond lockdown....

gifted · 17-10-2020 08:56PM

Fergal bowers has to be the worst reporter rte have....all he does is repeat what the presenter already informed us...

pjohnson · 17-10-2020 08:56PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No cabinet meeting this weekend, next cabinet meeting already pre scheduled for early next week.

All pointing towards a rejection of NPHET again

Yep Martin is impressed by the approach of Trump/Bolsinaro et al.

WoollyRedHat · 17-10-2020 08:57PM

We need to get our daily cases down and we need to do it now, it's out of control. We also need to recruit more public health consultants, we need more and we need them now. Once we bring our cases down, we should then roll out rapid testing and backward tracing. We also need to bring in isolation enforcement, particularly for those who have being traced to clusters. Then we can have an exit strategy. If we fail to do this, we will continue to fail until a vaccine is ready. We cannot afford this. The model works, Japan did it, South Korea did it and we can do it, once the population buys in and our government promises to deliver. That's your exit strategy , woll we do it?

greenfield21 · 17-10-2020 08:57PM

Hopefully Michael let's Tony do the level 5 speech tomorrow evening.it would be such a great way for Tony to bring everyone back on the one team. We can then unite behind nphet

Jizique · 17-10-2020 08:58PM

pjohnson wrote: »

Yep Martin is impressed by the approach of Trump/Bolsinaro et al.

Zlatan diagnosed 18 days ago, played 90 mins in derby v Inter tonight, scored two goals; I hope Tony and the rest of his mates were watching

s1ippy · 17-10-2020 08:58PM

Funsterdelux wrote: »

How'd the pizzas turn out?

We can't move.

With all the carbohydrates I've eaten today I'm going to have some crash, especially after these beers.

stephenjmcd wrote: »

No cabinet meeting this weekend, next cabinet meeting already pre scheduled for early next week.

All pointing towards a rejection of NPHET again

Growing expectation country will move to higher level of Covid-19 restrictions (via @IrishTimes) https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politics/growing-expectation-country-will-move-to-higher-level-of-covid-19-restrictions-1.4383964

Dunno if it's just the media being hysterical but I mean you all saw Sergent Jack Meoff's letter that was posted earlier...

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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