Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Shelly66 · 17-10-2020 06:46PM

Great way to increase the numbers in meath , have a small bar outdoors looks small space to me in a certain hotel bettystown for the match tonight , lots of shouting will be done I'd say plenty of airborne droplets, absolute madness .

DeanAustin · 17-10-2020 06:46PM

Necro wrote: »

Honestly, I think everyone is doing their best at the top level. Problem is people are frustrated, and scared sh1tless in some cases.

So the natural reaction is to lash out and blame someone. I'm guilty of it myself, like when I tested positive I was looking for someone to blame.

But the truth is it's no one's fault. It's a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic and nobody, career politicians, experienced healthcare professionals, virologists, nobody has dealt with it before.

Yes there have been mistakes on all fronts, but that is part of dealing with something you have never encountered before. It's a lot of trial and a lot of error.

I mean this post is likely to be attacked with various failures of both the government and NPHET and while they ring true, I absolutely have no doubt they are trying their absolute best for the good of the country.

I just sometimes wish they stopped playing the 'game' and were 100% honest with people. But maybe the truth would scare us even more, I dunno.

Excluding the last paragraph, which I don’t really understand, this is the best post I’ve seen on here during the pandemic. Absolutely spot on. Well done.

ZX7R · 17-10-2020 06:48PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Yes see here- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-poland-record/poland-ramps-ups-health-training-as-covid-19-cases-hit-fresh-records-idUKKBN26Z134

Link is not working for me sorry

JTMan · 17-10-2020 06:48PM

Irish Times reports here (paywall):

- Some Ministers believe Government will approve new nationwide restrictions between Level 4 and Level 5 in coming days.
- Six-week duration likely to meet resistance/not be agreed.
- Ministers also consider that the stipulation in Level 5 that people stay within five kilometres of their home is not necessary.
- Conflict with teachers unions expected if schools were to remain open.

Seems we will go to level 5 with no duration and no radius limits and no school closures (optional under Phase 5). Is that others reading into this?

WoollyRedHat · 17-10-2020 06:49PM

ZX7R wrote: »

Link is not working for me sorry

Can you try again, should be working now.

pc7 · 17-10-2020 06:50PM

If the IT leak is right/wrong, what way do people think it’ll go? Quick straw poll, I think they’ll have to go 5 based on the positive swabs, but not sure they’ll have bottle or internal party support for it so could go 4.5

UsBus · 17-10-2020 06:51PM

The absolute state of the photographers with Tony Holohan crossing the street....princess Diana paps wannabes

ZX7R · 17-10-2020 06:51PM

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

Can you try again, should be working now.

Working know thanks

Russman · 17-10-2020 06:51PM

Would it be fair to say that if level 4 or 5 is brought in and schools are kept open, we should know (or have a good idea) after about two weeks what impact the schools are actually having ?

mcburns07 · 17-10-2020 06:52PM

JTMan wrote: »

Irish Times reports here (paywall):

- Some Ministers believe Government will approve new nationwide restrictions between Level 4 and Level 5 in coming days.
- Six-week duration likely to meet resistance/not be agreed.
- Ministers also consider that the stipulation in Level 5 that people stay within five kilometres of their home is not necessary.
- Conflict with teachers unions expected if schools were to remain open.

Seems we will go to level 5 with no duration and no radius limits and no school closures (optional under Phase 5). Is that others reading into this?

Level 4 is my guess with a few things borrowed from level 5. Level 5 is just too controversial between pissing off teachers / closing schools, and shuttering a lot of the economy. No other countries in Europe are taking measures that extreme with multiples of our cases. Who would pay for it?

almostover · 17-10-2020 06:53PM

pc7 wrote: »

If the IT leak is right/wrong, what way do people think it’ll go? Quick straw poll, I think they’ll have to go 5 based on the positive swabs, but not sure they’ll have bottle or internal party support for it so could go 4.5

Why dont we just go to level 4 so? These halfway house measures are a complete fudge. We made a structure, might be worth using it

pc7 · 17-10-2020 06:55PM

almostover wrote: »

Why dont we just go to level 4 so? These halfway house measures are a complete fudge. We made a structure, might be worth using it

Aw I’m not arguing, I’m just saying based on Nphet wanting 5 etc what do posters think the 3 amigos will do.

Loafing Oaf · 17-10-2020 06:55PM

JTMan wrote: »

Irish Times reports here (paywall):

- Some Ministers believe Government will approve new nationwide restrictions between Level 4 and Level 5 in coming days.
- Six-week duration likely to meet resistance/not be agreed.

Why don't they just say "as long as it takes", as everyone knows that is what it will be anyway?

prunudo · 17-10-2020 06:55PM

pc7 wrote: »

If the IT leak is right/wrong, what way do people think it’ll go? Quick straw poll, I think they’ll have to go 5 based on the positive swabs, but not sure they’ll have bottle or internal party support for it so could go 4.5

Countrywide level 4 midweek, announcement about level 5 next week and extension to school break depending on how numbers go.

GazzaL · 17-10-2020 06:56PM

almostover wrote: »

Why dont we just go to level 4 so? These halfway house measures are a complete fudge. We made a structure, might be worth using it

NPHET are making it up as they go along. **** the economy, they could turn the country into North Korea and they'll still get paid.

BringBackMick · 17-10-2020 06:57PM

What would happen, they close retail and outdoor cafes, restaurants

Do they really think this will bring us back to the figures they want?

mcburns07 · 17-10-2020 06:58PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

What would happen, they close retail and outdoor cafes, restaurants

Do they really think this will bring us back to the figures they want?

Which part of level 5 do you think would make the difference?

WoollyRedHat · 17-10-2020 06:58PM

People are still working on-site who can work remotely. Businesses/ Line Managers should have to provide justification if they require employees on-site presence.

GooglePlus · 17-10-2020 06:58PM

pc7 wrote: »

If the IT leak is right/wrong, what way do people think it’ll go? Quick straw poll, I think they’ll have to go 5 based on the positive swabs, but not sure they’ll have bottle or internal party support for it so could go 4.5

Go 4 and things don't go the right way, they'll get the blame. Go 5 and things don't go the right way, we get the blame.

podgeandrodge · 17-10-2020 06:59PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

What would happen, they close retail and outdoor cafes, restaurants

Do they really think this will bring us back to the figures they want?

mcburns07 wrote: »

Which part of level 5 do you think would make the difference?

Well nobody seems to be blaming retail for increased cases, and properly controlled pubs/restaurants are not crammed full of heavy breathers, which is what WHO is saying is the issue.

So why close them.

zerosugarbuzz · 17-10-2020 07:00PM

Necro wrote: »

I can't handle the Irish media coverage of it in general. Everything is a leak, or a scandal or something so morbidly depressing you just feel terrible after reading.

And that's before we get to the quality of questions at the bi-weekly pressers.

They actually do want us all hiding in our houses for the next 12 months, they are an embarrassment.

I've completely stopped watching the news and unfortunately cant listen to talk radio anymore. The constant news is more depressing than the reality of the situation.

niallo27 · 17-10-2020 07:01PM

GazzaL wrote: »

NPHET are making it up as they go along. **** the economy, they could turn the country into North Korea and they'll still get paid.

Half the members of nphet are part of the hse, who has the most to lose if the hospitals get shown up for the **** show they are. They will do whatever it takes to save face and keep their jobs and us idiots can't see it.

WoollyRedHat · 17-10-2020 07:04PM

I think we should draft in some outside help, perhaps we could invite someone from the ECDC to be external advisor to NPHET.

froog · 17-10-2020 07:05PM

everyone needs to chill like this guy.

manniot2 · 17-10-2020 07:08PM

Sounds like level 5 without the 5km rule.

Eaglebridie 32 · 17-10-2020 07:09PM

pc7 wrote: »

If the IT leak is right/wrong, what way do people think it’ll go? Quick straw poll, I think they’ll have to go 5 based on the positive swabs, but not sure they’ll have bottle or internal party support for it so could go 4.5

I’m guessing something like this, call it “level 5 minus” . All of level 5 except for schools, manufacturing , construction, essential retail open.

Funsterdelux · 17-10-2020 07:09PM

pc7 wrote: »

Aw I’m not arguing, I’m just saying based on Nphet wanting 5 etc what do posters think the 3 amigos will do.

The 3 amigos? Sleepy, Leaky and Mehole?

Hellrazer · 17-10-2020 07:09PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Sounds like level 5 without the 5km rule.

Going level 5 will have the opposite effect...people are that pissed off with the lack of direction and enforcement that they wont abide by level 5 restrictions.

Level 3 needs more time to work. There is already some evidence that its working albeit very slowly.

prunudo · 17-10-2020 07:10PM

Eaglebridie 32 wrote: »

I’m guessing something like this, call it “level 5 minus” . All of level 5 except for schools, manufacturing , construction, essential retail open.

Is that not 4 though?

Polar101 · 17-10-2020 07:10PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Why do people care so much about people buying stuff? It's called stimulating the economy plus it's only the person's business if they're stocking up on pasta or whatever.

Going to get groceries is pretty exciting, compared to last year. It's one of the most exciting things I do these days.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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