Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

IrishStuff09 · 17-10-2020 06:01PM

Well this is some good news from the RTÉ article

The latest surveillance report from health authorities shows that there is no influenza in circulation here yet.

There have been no confirmed cases of influenza in the last two weeks, since the surveillance system restarted for the winter period, according to the Health Protection Surveillance Centre.

Increased rhinovirus and enterovirus cases have been reported in September and early October.

The HPSC says that globally, influenza activity is at lower levels than expected for this time of year.

Experts say that the various hygiene and physical distancing measures, implemented to deal with Covid-19, have likely played a role in reducing influenza virus transmission.

Harry Palmr · 17-10-2020 06:01PM

Some drop in Monaghan is that right?

froog · 17-10-2020 06:02PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Tests don't really work if you don't do them :rolleyes:

everyone in the white house was getting rapid tests daily. and it did absolutely nothing to stop a very large outbreak there.

snowgal · 17-10-2020 06:02PM

nacho libre wrote: »

Does anyone really think cases will be on the decline by next Thursday? Given it usually takes two or three weeks for the effects of restrictions to be seen. What do they possibly hope to see by next Thursday? It seems to me like they are just kicking the can down the road again

I absolutely thought that they would do this as soon as I heard.. I posted it to my family app since level five talk yesterday. Seems clear as day they’d it put it off and wait for the schools to close next Friday and then put the whole country into lockdown Together, schools then remain closed longer...

Martina1991 · 17-10-2020 06:03PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I understand why we haven't budged from the PCR testing. I would however think it possible that for mass testing (mass testing in nursing homes for example) with less accurate tests (and retesting any positives with pcr to confirm) might be a more efficient way to do mass testing but I am sure the experts looked at this.

To move to mass testing, you go from diagnostic tests to screening tests. Screening WILL miss cases.
When it comes to a contagious virus, is this move appropriate or does it compromise efforts to detect cases and stop the spread.

To use the example of a nursing home, the consequences of a screening test missing a case or 2 results in a large cluster, untracked transmission and deaths.

Then questions arise, how did this happen, we tested everyone.

gipi · 17-10-2020 06:03PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Rapid testing would allow our sporting organisations to work with no setbacks. It would allow teachers, healthcare workers, Gardai etc to be tested at very short notice with fast results. If presumed positive, test with PCR.
Every other country is doing it.

I read about Valentino Rossi (MotoGP rider) testing positive this week. He had a quick test on Tuesday as part of the ongoing testing in the sport, it was negative. He felt unwell on Thursday and had another quick test - also negative. A full PCR test was carried out, which was positive.

How I don't know what quick test was being used, but I'd wonder about its usefulness if it can give a negative test result to a person who tests positive later the same day?

Any thoughts?

Edit: post crossed with Martina's

branie2 · 17-10-2020 06:04PM

RIP, the 8 people who died

AlphaDelta1 · 17-10-2020 06:04PM

7 day average above 1000. Dublin remains high yet again.

ACitizenErased · 17-10-2020 06:04PM

froog wrote: »

everyone in the white house was getting rapid tests daily. and it did absolutely nothing to stop a very large outbreak there.

Do you honestly think that they were tested daily? Trump didn't even get tested before the debate.

Asked again whether he took a test in adherence of rules set by the Commission on Presidential Debates, Trump said at the town hall: "I probably did, and I took a test the day before."
Asked once more, he said: "Possibly I did, possibly I didn't."
The President also could not recall the last time he tested negative for coronavirus before testing positive in early October. He added that he was tested frequently but not every day.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/10/15/politics/donald-trump-coronavirus-test-town-hall/index.html

WoollyRedHat · 17-10-2020 06:04PM

Martina1991 wrote: »

To move to mass testing, you go from diagnostic tests to screening tests. Screening WILL miss cases.
When it comes to a contagious virus, is this move appropriate or does it compromise efforts to detect cases and stop the spread.

To use the example of a nursing home, the consequences of a screening test missing a case or 2 results in a large cluster, untracked transmission and deaths.

Then questions arise, how did this happen, we tested everyone.

What's your opinion on pool testing?

Le Bruise · 17-10-2020 06:04PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

. Experts say that the various hygiene and physical distancing measures, implemented to deal with Covid-19, have likely played a role in reducing influenza virus transmission.

Not sure they needed experts to work that one out!

ACitizenErased · 17-10-2020 06:04PM

gipi wrote: »

I read about Valentino Rossi (MotoGP rider) testing positive this week. He had a quick test on Tuesday as part of the ongoing testing in the sport, it was negative. He felt unwell on Thursday and had another quick test - also negative. A full PCR test was carried out, which was positive.

How I don't know what quick test was being used, but I'd wonder about its usefulness if it can give a negative test result to a person who tests positive later the same day?

Any thoughts?

If you're presumed positive then you require a PCR. A rapid test would be useful in picking up asymptomatic cases.

SPDUB · 17-10-2020 06:05PM

froog wrote: »

everyone in the white house was getting rapid tests daily. and it did absolutely nothing to stop a very large outbreak there.

They still won't say when Trump had his last negative test before getting it so nobody actually believes that .

Sammy2012 · 17-10-2020 06:05PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Wexford rapidly becoming a problem

Whats happening here? I know in the North of the county we have had a lot of cases linked to the GAA but thought that was why the figures were high earlier in the week. Has this prob spread further afield?

DrSpongeBobz · 17-10-2020 06:05PM

Level 4.45 next week

BringBackMick · 17-10-2020 06:06PM

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

7 day average above 1000. Dublin remains high yet again.

How you can pick Dublin out the worrying bit in those statistics is beyond me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dublin continues to show signs of stabilisation - it hasnt turned around but the growth rate is very low, cutting out household visits should see this growth rate turn negative in 7-10 days.

The remainder of country should turn in 14 days.

Hang in there guys

17-10-2020 06:06PM

Necro wrote: »

Probably where the exemptions come in. They do love their exemptions.

Probably. I thought it was a bit heartless but as much as we hate the restrictions we certainly can't call them draconian.

Icyseanfitz · 17-10-2020 06:06PM

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

Level 4.45 next week

id be thinking a level 3.95 myself, maybe with a sprinkle of level 5 restrictions thrown in

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 06:07PM

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

Level 4.45 next week

Thanks for the heads up Leo.

Atlantic Dawn · 17-10-2020 06:07PM

1276 new cases, 8 deaths.

A new record of cases.

risteard7 · 17-10-2020 06:08PM

branie2 wrote: »

RIP, the 8 people who died

And RIP to the other 70+ people who died today from non Covid

WoollyRedHat · 17-10-2020 06:08PM

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

7 day average above 1000. Dublin remains high yet again.

Dublin has only been in Level 3 a month from tomorrow. You would hope to see cases in Dublin start to tail off from next week onwards.

Goldrickssan · 17-10-2020 06:08PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

1276 new cases, 8 deaths.

A new record of cases.

Woo high score!

ICU still low **** level 5

Atlantic Dawn · 17-10-2020 06:09PM

Could notice much more people around shopping today both in supermarkets and general retail, RTE also mentioned this.

Funsterdelux · 17-10-2020 06:09PM

risteard7 wrote: »

And RIP to the other 70+ people who died today from non Covid

Is that non or no covid?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 17-10-2020 06:10PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1317510237038018560?s=20

What are the ** next to Monaghan and Leitrim? No cases as the test centre closed for some reason?

ACitizenErased · 17-10-2020 06:10PM

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

1276 new cases, 8 deaths.

A new record of cases.

A record for recorded cases yes, not for actual, one would think

Plumbthedepths · 17-10-2020 06:10PM

Fregal Bowers giving the rundown on today's figures, someone must have told the gob****e Lee that he's not the health correspondent.

BringBackMick · 17-10-2020 06:11PM

The government need to be brave here, Level 3 with some added measures, such as the household visit ban and perhaps curtailing some social outlets further will turn the growth rate negative.

Dublin R rate will turn negative in 5-7 days.

Rest of country growth rate will turn negative in 7-10 days.

We need a strong level headed government here.

They must not waiver to the lockdown NPHET hawks

Necro · 17-10-2020 06:11PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

What are the ** next to Monaghan and Leitrim? No cases as the test centre closed for some reason?

Less than 5 cases so they don't report for data protection reasons I think.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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