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Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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  • #4652
    harr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,512 ✭✭✭harr


    Government really trying to show themselves as the good guys to the public and ignoring the experts.. we will go into level 4 and they will expect a pat on the back from joe public for saving us from level 5 lockdown.
    If a few weeks if numbers sore they will say they had everyone’s best interest by resisting level 5 ..

    My own opinion is that it won’t make a blind bit of difference going into level 5 , people who ignore level 3 won’t suddenly start to adhere to level 5 .. stay on level 3 and introduce fines for those breaking the rules.


  • #4653
    MerlinSouthDub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    petes wrote: »
    That's fine and I agree with you but how many schools is this happening? If it's a lot the data won't show a true reflection of the case incidence in schools so can't tell you if there is a big issue or not.

    The number of children tested is available - see Dannyboy's tweet. That's the whole point - there will always be instances of kids not being tested when we think they should be but, overall, lots of kids are being tested


  • #4654
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    Tony summoned to government buildings

    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1317419746518831106?s=19


  • #4655
    Jenna James
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 625 ✭✭✭Jenna James


    Would their recommendation not have included the reasons for in the first place? Strange.


  • #4656
    Goldrickssan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭Goldrickssan


    Jenna James wrote: »
    Would their recommendation not have included the reasons for in the first place? Strange.

    They will likely also discuss the impact that moving to level 4 might have on the virus.


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  • #4657
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Tony summoned to government buildings

    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1317419746518831106?s=19

    This implies they’re thinking of doing with it surely?


  • #4658
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    I picked a hell of a time to stop drinking...


  • #4659
    Paddygreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Tony summoned to government buildings

    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1317419746518831106?s=19

    Go Tony! go Tony! Only Dr Hulahoop can rattle some sense into those politicians who are doubting the scientific consensus. Dr Glynn is the worst Harry Potter lookalike sidekick ever. He really dropped the ball when the Boss was away. I bet Dr Tony steam cleaned his glasses for him when he got back.


  • #4660
    MOR316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,255 ✭✭✭MOR316


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    Go Tony! go Tony! Only Dr Hulahoop can rattle some sense into those politicians who are doubting the scientific consensus. Dr Glynn is the worst Harry Potter lookalike sidekick ever. He really dropped the ball when the Boss was away. I bet Dr Tony steam cleaned his glasses for him when he got back.

    Jesus Christ...


  • #4661
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    Go Tony! go Tony! Only Dr Hulahoop can rattle some sense into those politicians who are doubting the scientific consensus. Dr Glynn is the worst Harry Potter lookalike sidekick ever. He really dropped the ball when the Boss was away. I bet Dr Tony steam cleaned his glasses for him when he got back.

    Very entertaining Paddy. Keep it up.


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  • #4662
    Paddygreen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 716 ✭✭✭Paddygreen


    MOR316 wrote: »
    Jesus Christ...

    Not quite, but near enough, it’s Dr Tony.


  • #4663
    sterz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭sterz


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    This implies they’re thinking of doing with it surely?

    It means that they're asking NPHET to justify their recommendation. Just like they did a couple of weeks ago (when NPHET were unable to back up their recommendation).


  • #4664
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    This implies they’re thinking of doing with it surely?

    All reports so far are that they won't be going with it.


  • #4665
    khalessi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,216 ✭✭✭khalessi


    MerlinSouthDub wrote: »
    The number of children tested is available - see Dannyboy's tweet. That's the whole point - there will always be instances of kids not being tested when we think they should be but, overall, lots of kids are being tested

    Yes, but are those children counted as school tests because they are children?

    I got one of my kids tested in early Sept, they had a cough which was the reason for the test, I counted 70 other kids there while I was at testing centre. There were a lot of bugs flying around when schools first reopened and the majority of parents were getting their children tested as per regulations.

    There is not mass testing going on in schools despite what is said in the media.


  • #4666
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    People should pull on the green jersey when they are staying home to stay safe the next time. A bit of patriotism. We have the hand of destiny on our shoulder as we hold firm in the face of the terrifying virus. Holding firm on the home front as our hero’s man the barricades. If there is a god he would be on our side. In it together as we stay apart. Hunkered down with our essentials waiting for George Lee and Dr Hulahoop to comfort us, those old familiar faces that warm our hearts and give us hope. Dark days indeed but if we follow the guidelines at least some of us might make it.


    Paddy, with the most respect. Do one.
    People are genuinely suffering so they could do without your mocking, as could I.


  • #4667
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Paddygreen wrote: »
    Not quite, but near enough, it’s Dr Tony.

    Superman wears Dr Holohan pjs to bed. ;-)


  • #4668
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    All reports so far are that they won't be going with it.

    Reports they were going to go with level 4 earlier?

    So level 4 with pieces of 5


  • #4669
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,711 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Plumbthedepths wrote:
    Our elected government is about to do what they are elected to do. Consider the advice they have been given but weigh it up with other considerations. Nphet despite the desire of many do not run the country.
    Our elected government are responsible for the horrendous situation we are in right now by deciding not to listen to NPHET and instead try and discredit them by leaking information to the media.
    They are a thundering disgrace.


  • #4670
    stephenjmcd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,458 ✭✭✭✭stephenjmcd


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Reports they were going to go with level 4 earlier?

    So level 4 with pieces of 5

    Where ?

    Morning papers are NPHET advice to be rejected, "government sources" doing the usual leak to journalists already.

    We can see what way this is going


  • #4671
    owlbethere
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,329 ✭✭✭owlbethere


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Tony summoned to government buildings

    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1317419746518831106?s=19

    He said it not so long ago in a briefing. They need to bring the case numbers down before the Christmas and for the Christmas. He said, going into the Christmas with 50 cases a day would be better than going into the Christmas with hundreds of cases a day.


    I really don't think people are able to grasp what he's saying here. If we continue on the same path we are on and we are seeing approx 800 to 1000 cases a day now, this figure will rise.

    Many people will refuse to keep Christmas a low key event this year and many will not hold back and restrict their movements and keep their contacts low. If we go into the Christmas seeing 1000s of cases a day, this Christmas will be very bleak with sickness, hospitalisations and death this year for many families.


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  • #4672
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Our elected government are responsible for the horrendous situation we are in right now by deciding not to listen to NPHET and instead try and discredit them by leaking information to the media.
    They are a thundering disgrace.

    It may come as a surprise to you but Nphet's role is to advise government , that's it . They are not in a position to rule by decree. The government has to balance the advice against multiple factors. As for leaks , Nphet were engaging with the media before the restrictions for Dublin were advised to government. That is not the way to behave. It does division.


  • #4673
    Dempo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,119 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Listening to Saturday with Katie Hannon, should be fireworks, Teacher unions will ultimately decide what level, I reckon

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • #4674
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Our elected government are responsible for the horrendous situation we are in right now by deciding not to listen to NPHET and instead try and discredit them by leaking information to the media.
    They are a thundering disgrace.

    I am not being funny... But what horrendous situation? We are not Italy in March, deciding who lives and dies... Hospitals are busy but not full. Covid accounts for about 10-12% of ICU figures...


  • #4675
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,766 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    The fact Tony has been called in despite the letter explaining their reasoning says that cabinet are not convinced at all at all


  • #4676
    Dempo1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,119 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It may come as a surprise to you but Nphet's role is to advise government , that's it . They are not in a position to rule by decree. The government has to balance the advice against multiple factors. As for leaks , Nphet were engaging with the media before the restrictions for Dublin were advised to government. That is not the way to behave. It does division.

    Absolutely and I'm sick trying to explain this

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • #4677
    Derek Zoolander
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 434 ✭✭Derek Zoolander


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Paddy, with the most respect. Do one.
    People are genuinely suffering so they could do without your mocking, as could I.

    If you’re genuinely suffering I’d suggest trawling twitter for every possible negative study about covid isn’t going to do wonders for your mood or outlook...

    Probably worth finding a good series on Netflix and ignoring the news for a week or so -


  • #4678
    manniot2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 713 ✭✭✭manniot2


    eagle eye wrote: »
    Our elected government are responsible for the horrendous situation we are in right now by deciding not to listen to NPHET and instead try and discredit them by leaking information to the media.
    They are a thundering disgrace.

    Can you prove that not going to level 5 that time has resulted in increased cases?


  • #4679
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    stephenjmcd wrote: »
    Where ?

    Morning papers are NPHET advice to be rejected, "government sources" doing the usual leak to journalists already.

    We can see what way this is going

    Independent “ There is a growing belief that Cabinet will again shoot down Nphet's call for the highest level of coronavirus regulations and instead introduce Level 4 restrictions.

    However, senior figures in the two main Government parties say it is inevitable countrywide near-lockdown restrictions will be introduced in the coming days.”

    Times quote a government source as we probably are going to have to seriously consider going to a Level 4”.


    Same on radio all morning also



    Very clearly level 4 is being seriously considered and the option most likely


  • #4680
    eagle eye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,711 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    mloc123 wrote:
    I am not being funny... But what horrendous situation? We are not Italy in March, deciding who lives and dies... Hospitals are busy but not full. Covid accounts for about 10-12% of ICU figures...
    Transmission is out of control.


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  • #4681
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    caveat emptor wrote: »
    Paddy, with the most respect. Do one.
    People are genuinely suffering so they could do without your mocking, as could I.

    Now this gave me a laugh. You have trawled the net and Twitter looking for the most obsure and negative stuff you could find and now you are having a go at someone behaving in the same manner as you have been for months.


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