Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

spookwoman · 17-10-2020 11:39AM

Epidemiology report out
Clusters
Private House +67
Nursing home +1
Hospital +2
Community Hospital Longer term stay +1
Other +17

ICU
15-24 +1
55-64 +1
65-74 +1

Deaths
55-64 +2
85+ +1
1 had an underlying condition

AlphaDelta1 · 17-10-2020 11:40AM

hmmm wrote: »

The next few months will be difficult, no doubt about that.

But in 2021 we are going to see rapid testing, therapeutics and vaccines which will help to gradually improve things. I think people are underestimating the impact rapid cheap testing is going to have in particular - a 5 euro test with results in 15 minutes would make things a lot safer for airlines, restaurants, pubs, offices, nursing homes etc.

Absolutely. We have to hold firm until then. Jobs will come back, businesses will reopen, we will defeat this but we must all stick together.

MerlinSouthDub · 17-10-2020 11:41AM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

This a great thread. School children are tested more than any age group yet have lowest positivity.

School children are not the problem.

GAA parties have been way more detrimental to the spread of Covid.

Great thread, will done to dannyboy. It's completely clear where the spike in infections is coming from, yet we will still hear the anti-school mob with their usual guff, based on their prejudices and not on data. please, people, form your views based on the evidence. We will make better decisions that way.

igCorcaigh · 17-10-2020 11:41AM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

I think the big issue at the moment is that people can't see light at the end of tunnel, they want to live their lives and don't see the point in following restrictions.

I read it very differently. I think people are more worried about the virus than the restrictions. The media is full of economic worries and businesseses failing, but that is very much pushed from a certain cohort of society.

People know the danger of this virus. And recent polls suggest that they support the necessary measures.

MD1990 · 17-10-2020 11:42AM

blade1 wrote: »

might go get a bulletproof vest if any left

Non solum non ambulabit · 17-10-2020 11:42AM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Whatever it is, it isn't a trip to Power City or a contained pint in a socially distanced pub or restaurant that is causing the increases.

Agreed but every second post on this thread is blaming schools with no data to back it up.

When presented with evidence it is ignored.

Non solum non ambulabit · 17-10-2020 11:43AM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Great thread, will done to dannyboy. It's completely clear where the spike in infections is coming from, yet we will still hear the anti-school mob with their usual guff, based on their prejudices and not on data. please, people, form your views based on the evidence. We will make better decisions that way.

Well said.

mloc123 · 17-10-2020 11:44AM

Just got a voice memo on WhatsApp... Status red on Monday morning from zero eight hundred hours....

gifted · 17-10-2020 11:45AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Just got a voice memo on WhatsApp... Status red on Monday morning from zero eight hundred hours....

What's status red?

SusanC10 · 17-10-2020 11:45AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I can remember hand sanitiser in 2009 but that was about it. A few people wore masks, but the vast majority didn't. That flu hit vulnerable kids hard, and some died.

We didn't do social distancing then, i hadn't heard of the term until this year.

I was pregnant during the 2009 Pandemic. Pregnant women were vulnerable. I was worried about it at the time but it seemed to be over relatively quickly. I think the first cases here were in May maybe. And we seemed to get a Vaccine quickly too. Before the end of 2009.

No SD or masks etc as far as I remember.

Widdensushi · 17-10-2020 11:45AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Just got a voice memo on WhatsApp... Status red on Monday morning from zero eight hundred hours....

Are you due your period?

AlphaDelta1 · 17-10-2020 11:46AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Just got a voice memo on WhatsApp... Status red on Monday morning from zero eight hundred hours....

Cranberry juice is it?

igCorcaigh · 17-10-2020 11:46AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Just got a voice memo on WhatsApp... Status red on Monday morning from zero eight hundred hours....

How come you are a subscriber and not a registered user?

hmmm · 17-10-2020 11:46AM

gifted wrote: »

What's status red?

It's the same as status "made up ****e" but redder.

wadacrack · 17-10-2020 11:46AM

Their living successfully with this in Asia NZ etc. Eventually we will suppress it to lower levels and its likely to stay their if rapid testing is available, which it will be in 2021. Its not as hard to contain as many beleive and I would'nt lose hope. 8 months or so we will be in a much better position. Advances in science ikely by then. We have learned in 8 months that the virus is not as deadly in terms of previously thought we have to remember. In late February it seemed like it could have been much worse than this.

TonyMaloney · 17-10-2020 11:47AM

gifted wrote: »

What's status red?

It's just a WhatsApp icon that indicates that a person has read your message

mloc123 · 17-10-2020 11:48AM

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Whatever it is, it isn't a trip to Power City or a contained pint in a socially distanced pub or restaurant that is causing the increases.

There IS no one single thing driving the cases. It is everything, it is 2-3 months of ever slipping compliance. It is everything from people no longer sanatising hands going into shops, to meeting 15-20 close contacts a week compared it 3-4 a few months ago.

And that is a problem, because changing levels will not change people's attitudes now. The public buy in is gone, the novelty of zoom calls and washing their hands 15 times a day is gone.

Gruffalux · 17-10-2020 11:48AM

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

Every Tom, Dick and Harry lobby group in the country is jumping aboard the mental health angle at present. It's sickening and demeans those with actual mental health issues.

I rarely read newspapers mainly because I am shocked at the swizz these people pull getting paid regularly to write drivel but I clicked on an article by Fergal Bowers today out of an incurable habit of curiosity. Read not much I must confess - I saw he mentioned hankies as a good Christmas present for all the tears (is he a satirist?) - but there was a photo in it of a woman wearing a mask in what looked to be her own home and she had her palm pressed against the glass of the French doors and she was staring sadly out at nothing. Have to say I found it very odd looking.

https://amp.rte.ie/amp/1172039/

igCorcaigh · 17-10-2020 11:49AM

SusanC10 wrote: »

I was pregnant during the 2009 Pandemic. Pregnant women were vulnerable. I was worried about it at the time but it seemed to be over relatively quickly. I think the first cases here were in May maybe. And we seemed to get a Vaccine quickly too. Before the end of 2009.

No SD or masks etc as far as I remember.

I didn't realise pregnant women were vulnerable. That must have been a scary time.

In some ways, we are very lucky that this pandemic isn't hitting kids hard, like in 1918. That would be too much to bear.

17-10-2020 11:50AM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Care2much18/status/1317229951117103110?s=19

This a great thread. School children are tested intensely yet have lowest positivity.

School children are not the problem.

GAA parties have been way more detrimental to the spread of Covid.

SAGE recommends the following restrictions to reduce the R number in the UK, and states that closing schools could have the greatest impact.

Close all bars, pubs, cafes and restaurants could reduce R by 0.1-0.2
Close all indoor gyms and leisure centres could reduce R by up to 0.1
Closing non-essential retail would have "minimal impact" on transmission
Stopping people mixing in homes could reduce R by 0.1-0.2
Working from home reduce R by 0.2-0.4
Closing all schools could reduce R by 0.2-0.5

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54514387

petes · 17-10-2020 11:51AM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Agreed but every second post on this thread is blaming schools with no data to back it up.

When presented with evidence it is ignored.

And a tweet from a school with three cases on the previous page with no one else being tested. So it's not a lack of testing then?

Curious_Case · 17-10-2020 11:53AM

Regarding the implications of reopening the schools --

Simply studying incidences of positive Covid tests among said children only tells us what effect reopening had on THEM.

What about all the extra associated trips/interactions required by their parent/guardian/parents/guardians to get them to and from school, properly prepared ?

What about all the extra associated trips/interactions required by their teachers ?

What about all the other modes of transport employed to get children to and from school ?

Keeping schools open necessitates a huge amount of trips/interactions.

KrustyUCC · 17-10-2020 11:53AM

State to begin testing rapid Covid-19 antigen kits for national rollout

Rapid testing kits could potentially be approved by the end of the year

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/state-to-begin-testing-rapid-covid-19-antigen-kits-for-national-rollout-1.4383213

Fingers crossed the trials are successful

would be a good help to have rapid, cheap tests

mloc123 · 17-10-2020 11:53AM

hmmm wrote: »

It's the same as status "made up ****e" but redder.

I thought I had made this obvious enough

Funny looking back over WhatsApp stuff from march tho, we are right back in the same "my mate is a guard and he said status red lockdown is coming" cycle again.

hmmm · 17-10-2020 11:53AM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Thanks Hmmm. Great to hear the optimism. It would be good for everyone if we had some definite news on a vaccine soon. Even if the news is that we'll have it 6 months time, I think that would mean people would be much more accepting of and compliant with a hard lockdown. I think the big issue at the moment is that people can't see light at the end of tunnel, they want to live their lives and don't see the point in following restrictions.

Pfizer's CEO issued a pretty unprecedented letter yesterday about their vaccine:
https://www.pfizer.com/news/hot-topics/an_open_letter_from_pfizer_chairman_and_ceo_albert_bourla

There's still uncertainty about the Phase 3 trial and when it will end, but their best guess timeline is that they will be applying to have a vaccine approved in mid-November of this year. It will be a good few months before it would become available to the general public, but the conversation is beginning to change to "when" and not "if".

DOCARCH · 17-10-2020 11:55AM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I didn't realise pregnant women were vulnerable. That must have been a scary time.

In some ways, we are very lucky that this pandemic isn't hitting kids hard, like in 1918. That would be too much to bear.

1918 pandemic hit young adults and middle aged people hardest. Kids and old people were pretty much safe.

MerlinSouthDub · 17-10-2020 11:55AM

petes wrote: »

And a tweet from a school with three cases on the previous page with no one else being tested. So it's not a lack of testing then?

If you're doing to base your view on one anecdote rather than comprehensive data, then go ahead.

mloc123 · 17-10-2020 11:55AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

SAGE recommends the following restrictions to reduce the R number in the UK, and states that closing schools could have the greatest impact.

Close all bars, pubs, cafes and restaurants could reduce R by 0.1-0.2
Close all indoor gyms and leisure centres could reduce R by up to 0.1
Closing non-essential retail would have "minimal impact" on transmission
Stopping people mixing in homes could reduce R by 0.1-0.2
Working from home reduce R by 0.2-0.4
Closing all schools could reduce R by 0.2-0.5

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54514387

IIRC that included universities.... Which in the UK are still fully open and seem to be a real issue. 700+ cases in the student residence of Queens university I think.

mloc123 · 17-10-2020 11:57AM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

If you're doing to base your view on one anecdote rather than comprehensive data, then go ahead.

But my friend is a teacher and she said the lizard people don't want us to know that the schools are the real problem. This goes so deep that ALL European countries are in on it....

Curious_Case · 17-10-2020 11:58AM

mloc123 wrote: »

Just got a voice memo on WhatsApp... Status red on Monday morning from zero eight hundred hours....

I've been at "Status Rosé"
think I'll bide my time until we reach "Status Burgundy"

You should have said midnight on Sunday, that would have been less ridiculous !!!

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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