Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Polar101 · 16-10-2020 11:43PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

How many available for people suffering from cancer or are they irrelevant

Why not read the report to find out?

majcos · 16-10-2020 11:43PM

Widdensushi wrote: »

How many available for people suffering from cancer or are they irrelevant

Almost 90% of the ICU beds occupied are currently occupied by non-Covid related illnesses. Obviously ICU beds will be used for whoever might need them, Covid and non Covid cases.

379 available general medical beds nationwide as of 8am this morning.

mandrake04 · 16-10-2020 11:44PM

Arghus wrote: »

Yeah, New Zealand, those idiots. I'll tell you what they are really bottom of the class in terms of how to handle this.

Shh don’t mention New Zealand or how well they handled it, that seems to upset a lot of people on here for some reason.

Jinglejangle69 · 16-10-2020 11:47PM

mandrake04 wrote: »

Shh don’t mention New Zealand or how well they handled it, that seems to upset a lot of people on here for some reason.

Always find it funny that people don't know for one that new Zealand is actually 2 islands miles apart.

Oh and each island has no border.

But sure that's exactly the same as Ireland:)

majcos · 16-10-2020 11:47PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

We should have set up 100 of those ICU Shipping Containers during the summer, but we didn't. We did nothing to prepare for the second wave

The bigger problem than the physical space and equipment for ICU beds is the availability of skilled staff to actually care for those patients.

Gael23 · 16-10-2020 11:47PM

There’s every chance the govt will pull back on this. Either way level 3 has to be given the 3 weeks

16-10-2020 11:50PM

amadangomor wrote: »

Looking at that they seem to be 10 years ahead of us with an end of life choice and cannabis legalisation referendum.

Time for both of those referendums here and I will go for them as long as there is sensible regulation.

The first would need a public vote, would vote yes personally as long as the legislation around it is sound.
The second could be changed without a public vote if I remember correctly. 50/50 on it as wouldn't be a user, especially wouldn't give the scrotes smuggling and dealing it money, but can see the argument for legalizing.

Wolf359f · 16-10-2020 11:51PM

majcos wrote: »

The bigger problem than the physical space and equipment for ICU beds is the availability of skilled staff to actually care for those patients.

I think some people really believe you just put a patient in a coma, shove a ventilation tube down their lungs, hit the on button on it and that's it for a few days/weeks.
They kind are oblivious to the fact it takes 6/7 highly trained nurses to look after each and every ICU bed. The staff you can just order in bulk from a supplier like the beds!

tobefrank321 · 16-10-2020 11:52PM

majcos wrote: »

HSE operations report
249 in hospital
30 in ICU, 18 ventilated
Available ICU beds 31

Not bad all things considered. But they really should consider buying/taking over a private hospital or two. I think there was 900 hospitalised back in April and 150 in icu so a good way to go to match that.

awec · 16-10-2020 11:53PM

New Zealand is an isolated group of islands, quite literally thousands of miles from anywhere else, that are sparsely populated.

New Zealand has done a remarkable job and the government and people there should be applauded, but this is not a level playing field.

Arghus · 16-10-2020 11:54PM

Gael23 wrote: »

There’s every chance the govt will pull back on this. Either way level 3 has to be given the 3 weeks

No chance. We're going to level five. They might try to soften it a little or make a few more exceptions about what businesses are classed as essential.

Plumbthedepths · 16-10-2020 11:55PM

awec wrote: »

New Zealand is an isolated group of islands, quite literally thousands of miles from anywhere else, that are sparsely populated.

New Zealand has done a remarkable job and the government and people there should be applauded, but this is not a level playing field.

Ssh for some reason plenty around won't like that being pointed out.
I've done it right ?

mandrake04 · 16-10-2020 11:55PM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Always find it funny that people don't know for one that new Zealand is actually 2 islands miles apart.

Oh and each island has no border.

But sure that's exactly the same as Ireland:)

Who said it wasn’t two islands? or that it was exactly the same as Ireland?

Wolf359f · 16-10-2020 11:57PM

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Not bad all things considered. But they really should consider buying/taking over a private hospital or two. I think there was 900 hospitalised back in April and 150 in icu so a good way to go to match that.

If the government don't want to move to level 5 and also want to provide day to day healthcare, they really will need to start looking at capacity in private hospitals.

Dublin still holding steady, but at too high a level.

ACitizenErased · 16-10-2020 11:57PM

Cabinet saying no according to early leaks.

Jinglejangle69 · 16-10-2020 11:57PM

mandrake04 wrote: »

Who said it wasn’t two islands? or that it was exactly the same as Ireland?

OK....

So why think Ireland can achieve the same results?

mcburns07 · 16-10-2020 11:57PM

Arghus wrote: »

No chance. We're going to level five. They might try to soften it a little or make a few more exceptions about what businesses are classed as essential.

You're pulling that statement out of your arghus, as it stands it's a recommendation only.

ACitizenErased · 16-10-2020 11:58PM

https://twitter.com/hughescraig90/status/1317237323390738439?s=20

Gael23 · 16-10-2020 11:58PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cabinet saying no according to early leaks.

Source?

amadangomor · 16-10-2020 11:58PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

You said that after the summer people (suddenly became) complacent... is that a scientific fact or was it due to the change of seasons where respiratory illness traditionally starts to take hold? Or do you not know what you meant?

People became complacent during the summer as the Covid-19 numbers dropped. A substantial amount of people reacted to the daily cases and thought we were in the clear and can we can go on as we were before.

It looked like we were on the right path and could get away with being more relaxed. Now that the conditions for Covid to spread are more suitable, temperature, people in enclosed spaces more often etc there is no room for complacency.

The complacency has continued as you can see in the last two weeks with the GAA celebrations.

Covid- 19 as a seasonal respiratory disease combined with complacency brought on by a summer lag resulting in a substantial increase is as about as simple as I can make it for you.

SleetAndSnow · 16-10-2020 11:59PM

Leaks saying no to 5. This is going to be interesting.

ACitizenErased · 16-10-2020 11:59PM

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Leaks saying no to 5. This is going to be interesting.

I think we'll see nationwide level 4 tbh

Eod100 · 16-10-2020 11:59PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cabinet saying no according to early leaks.

Where'd ya see that out of curiosity?

Widdensushi · 16-10-2020 11:59PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Source?

Common sense

Wolf359f · 16-10-2020 11:59PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Cabinet saying no according to early leaks.

Have cabinet a backup plan or are they hedging their bets on level 3 and visitor restrictions being enough?
Without enforcement, I don't think it will be, but I'll gladly like to be proven wrong!

SleetAndSnow · 17-10-2020 12:00AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I think we'll see nationwide level 4 tbh

That is pretty much lockdown without the 5km rule isn't it and professional sports? Is there much difference really or would it just be a tactic for them to say "Not lockdown but"

ACitizenErased · 17-10-2020 12:01AM

Eod100 wrote: »

Where'd ya see that out of curiosity?

Irish Daily Mail front page, Richard Chambers has retweeted it too so he must be hearing similar

mandrake04 · 17-10-2020 12:01AM

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

OK....

So why think Ireland can achieve the same results?

I didn’t think Ireland can achieve the same results, where did I post that?

I simply said don’t mention NZ or how well they done.....it upsets people.

Arghus · 17-10-2020 12:01AM

mcburns07 wrote: »

You're pulling that statement out of your arghus, as it stands it's a recommendation only.

Let's see where we are in due time so. Hey, we might get level four for a week or even two, but I've no doubt we'll eventually end up in five.

Eod100 · 17-10-2020 12:02AM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Irish Daily Mail front page, Richard Chambers has retweeted it too so he must be hearing similar

Thanks just saw it. Wonder why government doesn't just disband NPHET so if they're going to ignore them tbh. 6 weeks from next Tuesday is 1st December. Delaying bringing in restrictions now could guarantee there will be restrictions for Christmas.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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