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Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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  • #3842
    ixoy
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,045 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    bennyl10 wrote: »
    14 day incidence in Dublin has gotten considerable worse this week
    Not everywhere though. In my LEA, it's lower than last week and last week was lower than the previous week. We don't even make the Top 100 anymore.

    Looking at Dublin LEAs there's a massive difference depending on the area you live in and it can't all be down to just, "they have bigger gardens" or "working from home" surely.


  • #3843
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    speckle wrote: »
    Never turn your army on the people for enforcement, use them to help eg in the testing as they are doing or bringing people to hospital etc

    That's what they have been doing tbf. I was swabbed by a member of our PDF when I went for my test last week.

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #3844
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Russman wrote: »
    Just by the by, and with a view to enforcement and manpower, is there any legal way for the govt to temporarily, say for 6 months, empower the army with policing powers to assist with checkpoints etc etc ? Like instead of two Gardai you might have one Garda and one soldier at a checkpoint. Genuinely asking. I know there might be constitutional issues or problems with the civil liberties whingers.

    You want armed soldiers on the street? Are you well?


  • #3845
    Juwwi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    There badly needs to be as short video made showing people how to wear masks properly , don't touch them ect , sanitize hands before taking them off ,show it on rte 1 , rte 2 .
    90% + aren't wearing them properly .

    And also the daily updates should be on rte 1 or 2 .

    I'd say lots don't even know about rte news channel .


  • #3846
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    is_that_so wrote: »
    NPHET delivers the direct approach, it allows for tweaks. That's not always a bad thing even if it looks made up.

    The "Living with Covid" plan lasted 19 days.

    Trust me by every single metric imaginably it's a bad thing.


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  • #3847
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Boggles wrote: »
    The "Living with Covid" plan lasted 19 days.

    Trust me by every single metric imaginably it's a bad thing.

    The living with covid plan didn't even last 1 day... They literally went off plan they day they launched it by putting Dublin into "2.5"


  • #3848
    Seamai
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,250 ✭✭✭Seamai


    rsl1976 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/KevinPurcell_/status/1317154809036812293

    A midnight to 5am curfew hardly seems worthwhile.


  • #3849
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,413 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Juwwi wrote: »
    There badly needs to be as short video made showing people how to wear masks properly , don't touch them ect , sanitize hands before taking them off ,show it on rte 1 , rte 2 .
    90% + aren't wearing them properly .

    And also the daily updates should be on rte 1 or 2 .

    I'd say lots don't even know about rte news channel .

    More emphasis on reducing contacts is surely the priority?


  • #3850
    Russman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,985 ✭✭✭Russman


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You want armed soldiers on the street? Are you well?

    Did you even read my post or just see the word army and that set you off ?
    Where did I mention “armed” ? Wtf. Do they carry machine guns when shovelling snow or helping with flood relief ?


  • #3851
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    It’s the schools.
    It’s the schools.
    It’s the schools.

    Shush, you'll wale the Raindman


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  • #3852
    ACitizenErased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,767 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    mloc123 wrote: »
    The living with covid plan didn't even last 1 day... They literally went off plan they day they launched it by putting Dublin into "2.5"
    We're not living with COVID either, we're running from it.


  • #3853
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Seamai wrote: »
    A midnight to 5am curfue hardly seems worthwhile.

    What time does Leo get up at?


  • #3854
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Russman wrote: »
    Did you even read my post or just see the word army and that set you off ?
    Where did I mention “armed” ? Wtf. Do they carry machine guns when shovelling snow or helping with flood relief ?

    Soldiers regularly engage in what is called 'aid to the civil power'.
    You want soldiers to engage in enforcement , without a gun they are as useful as a chocolate teapot. Yes I did read your post along with alot of other nonsense today.
    They don't carry machine guns btw. They are called assault rifles.


  • #3855
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    ixoy wrote: »
    Not everywhere though. In my LEA, it's lower than last week and last week was lower than the previous week. We don't even make the Top 100 anymore.

    Looking at Dublin LEAs there's a massive difference depending on the area you live in and it can't all be down to just, "they have bigger gardens" or "working from home" surely.


    The LEAs that continue to go up obviously have more schools than those that have declined, I mean... There is no other possible reason right?

    It couldn't be that the social and economic make up of those areas are people that are more likely to buy a bag of cans and all head over to a single house... Nope.


  • #3856
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,413 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Ireland will never do a curfew, we are thankfully not a police state.


  • #3857
    Juwwi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,266 ✭✭✭Juwwi


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    More emphasis on reducing contacts is surely the priority?

    Yeah obviously that would also be helpful , but that's sort of why lm saying put the daily updates on rte 1 , more people would watch it and understand more why reducing contacts is needed .


  • #3858
    Curious_Case
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭Curious_Case


    With the GAA being not so active right now, perhaps the cabinet could do the decent thing and give the keys to Leinster House to the GAA

    The remaining livestock (non-portfolio TD's) could be retained to carry out menial tasks


  • #3859
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    I wonder why curfew is never considered an option here?

    Ive seen videos of gangs of youths drinking and huddled together outside in parks etc.. going around on social media this week. The parents obviously have no interest in helping out with this effort so why not bring the army in?

    Why do we never seem to think outside the box and find solutions to obvious problem areas. We seem to be prepered to let businesses go to the wall instead of implementing a strategy that may work.


  • #3860
    Necro
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,906 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You want armed soldiers on the street? Are you well?

    In fairness I don't think that's what the poster meant at all, just that they could assist with checkpoints etc. Gardai are normally unarmed, no reason why the army personnel need to be armed.

    Moderator: Current Affairs/IMHO, Soccer, Pro Wrestling



  • #3861
    Boggles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,566 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    We're not living with COVID either, we're running from it.

    Barry?


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  • #3862
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,086 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    mloc123 wrote: »
    The living with covid plan didn't even last 1 day... They literally went off plan they day they launched it by putting Dublin into "2.5"

    I did say that the day they released the living with covid plan.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=114619091&postcount=7896

    Theyre fecking brilliant.

    Whats to stop them sticking in any decimal point they want to.
    I can just picture the press conference.

    "Mr Martin would like to announce that Mrs Murphys house had an extra visitor last night so shes now at 2.73 on our infinite scale of 5."

    And then Donnelly will say "sure a 2.73 isnt really a 2.73 its more like a 2.729999998"

    These lot just crack me up.

    I really wasn't that far off!!!


  • #3863
    CruelSummer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,337 ✭✭✭CruelSummer


    Parabellum9 wrote: »
    No level will work while the schools are still open.

    I know, we need to keep targeting the young and vulnerable that have no voice on these forums, are unaffected by Covid & whose future + lives are being destroyed by our actions....

    This will come back to bite us if people continue with their campaign against children & education.


  • #3864
    Fuascailteoir
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Fuascailteoir


    Numbers in cavan look awful. The situation with community spread must be out of control


  • #3865
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    You want armed soldiers on the street? Are you well?

    Why not? You'd prefer to see working people on the dole?


  • #3866
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Juwwi wrote: »
    There badly needs to be as short video made showing people how to wear masks properly , don't touch them ect , sanitize hands before taking them off ,show it on rte 1 , rte 2 .
    90% + aren't wearing them properly .

    And also the daily updates should be on rte 1 or 2 .

    I'd say lots don't even know about rte news channel .

    I think that everyone knows how to wear them properly. But it’s actually quite a lot of effort to do so. The issue is people not caring rather than people not knowing. I think that the mask for most is a necessary evil to allow entry into shops etc rather than for public health. Given that, it’s hard to make people care enough to wear them properly. I’m guilty as anyone....mine goes into my pocket


  • #3867
    alentejo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭alentejo


    Ireland has failed with its approach to Covid

    We have had the most restrictive regime in place since the 1st wave and it looks like we will be the first to jump to level 5 restrictions. We are at euro mid table with regard to infections. What have we done wrong???

    I see no hope to any kind of level 3 or 2 restrictions until at least March more likely April. I suspect by spring, people will be so fed up that i gov tried to reimpose restrictions with it be very difficult

    The costs of this are going to be a drag on Ireland for the foreseeable future and the whole social economy will be a lot smaller and will need to be rebuilt from scratch.


  • #3868
    rubbledoubledo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 313 ✭✭rubbledoubledo


    Exactly guards can’t do it all. Put the soldiers out.. We not strict enough here with enforcement


  • #3869
    bk
    Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 23,750 Mod ✭✭✭✭bk


    speckle wrote: »
    Never turn your army on the people for enforcement, use them to help eg in the testing as they are doing or bringing people to hospital etc

    It use to be a pretty much daily sight seeing the army man checkpoints along with the Gardai in the 80's and 90's.

    Also the Army transporting cash with the Gardai was very common back then.

    So it wouldn't be unusual at all. In this case, the army could be unarmed or perhaps just a side arm, more to assist with numbers and resources rather then be threatening as such.


  • #3870
    Trouser Snake
    Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭Trouser Snake


    rubbledoubledo wrote: »
    Exactly guards can’t do it all. Put the soldiers out.. We not strict enough here with enforcement

    Arm the citizens, let the strong take out the weak.


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  • #3871
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    alentejo wrote: »
    Ireland has failed with its approach to Covid

    We have had the most restrictive regime in place since the 1st wave and it looks like we will be the first to jump to level 5 restrictions. We are at euro mid table with regard to infections. What have we done wrong???

    I see no hope to any kind of level 3 or 2 restrictions until at least March more likely April. I suspect by spring, people will be so fed up that i gov tried to reimpose restrictions with it be very difficult

    The costs of this are going to be a drag on Ireland for the foreseeable future and the whole social economy will be a lot smaller and will need to be rebuilt from scratch.

    The message was lost with the change of government and the current one being absolutely all over the place. Golfgate happening the same time as LOKDOWN was a significant factor. Gaa is a unique thing and the foundation of many communities here. Club football should never have been let return I think. I don't think it was an acceptable risk as opposed to the return of kids to school.

    Compliance went out the window primarily to the above in my opinion.


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