Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Does this mean dirty phone calls are not allowed?

No, I believe you can continue to breathe heavily and make grunting and/or groaning noises but absolutely no sending underwear in the post until 10th November, earliest.

Necro wrote: »

On Dublin, the incidence rate isn't actually falling - it's just that other counties are doing much, much worse. So I wouldn't be exactly lauding Dublin as a test case for Level 3.

Exactly!’
Yes it’s dropped down the table.
But the incidence rate has shot up!!

Necro wrote: »

On Dublin, the incidence rate isn't actually falling - it's just that other counties are doing much, much worse. So I wouldn't be exactly lauding Dublin as a test case for Level 3.

Exactly.

optogirl wrote: »

No, I believe you can continue to breathe heavily and make grunting and/or groaning noises but absolutely no sending underwear in the post until 10th November, earliest.

Its perfectly fine to send it in a ziploc or vacuum bag and wait 3 days before opening it.

Necro wrote: »

On Dublin, the incidence rate isn't actually falling - it's just that other counties are doing much, much worse. So I wouldn't be exactly lauding Dublin as a test case for Level 3.

In the circumstances doing 'less worse'.is a victory in itself. Leave it long enough (and have the surrounding counties and the same level) and we might see more progress without the devastation of a lockdown.

It's getting to the stage where we need a coup d'etat to save the country from the idiots in government.
Recommendation is level 5 but these clowns are more interested in keeping people at work so keep the schools open.
Who is that serving? A lot of ordinary decent hard working people think it's helping but it's not about them at all it's about the super rich and their business interests.
Fact of the matter is that if lots are not earning cash the banks have no choice but to make a plan to support them because there is no market for anything they take off them.

These super rich people will be out and gone if the markets are in trouble.

The long term economic forecast gets worse by the week as cases increase because when the lockdown comes, and it's definitely coming, it'll be a longer one the more time we wait.

I did think Paul Reid would shake up the HSE.

Not so. He knows he cannot break down the Union centric organisation. We all know it now too.

Sure just throw money at it to be as inefficient as possible going forward. Am very disappointed and don't how anyone will solve the problems of the Behomoth HSE anymore.

bennyl10 wrote: »

Exactly!’
Yes it’s dropped down the table.
But the incidence rate has shot up!!

Level 3 has had an impact. It has slowed the increase. This is not a final solution but it is very possible, given what we were told regarding the high percentage of transmission events occurring in the household environment, that when the effects of this additional restriction on household visits are seen in 2/3 weeks time, we will hopefully have a workable solution for the coming months.

I also know today of a kildare town, where the local GAA club were in the couty final recently. And 10 players were tested with the virus afterwards. And their teenage sisters and brothers have been also being effected from close contact with these players and so now the virus has spread to local secondary chool. Talking to one teacher today she says 4 students in her class have the virus all got from close contact with 10 gaa players who picked it up after county final. There is many many more examples across country we are not hearing of. LEVEL 5 and all schools shut and cancel all GAA need to be done this weekend. If not its absolute madness what is going on.

Hellrazer wrote: »

When you put it that way it sounds counter intuitive but it is what I mean.

So lets say we are where we are today. Just for the sake of somewhere to start from.

The whole country is at level 3.

Theres an outbreak in Cavan town due to a GAA match celebration … move Cavan town to level 5 for 2 weeks. But strictly enforce that level 5. No one enters and no one leaves unless it absolutely essential.

Meanwhile Virginia has zero cases. Move them to level 1 and let them get on with things. No one from Cavan town can enter or leave so hopefully Virginia stays relatively covid free.
Cavan after 14 days is then put back to say level 2 or 3 and is allowed to get on with things.

Target the places with the highest incidences.

But enforcement is the key.

that's reasonable. and agree about enforcement which is completely non existent right now.

Golfman64 wrote: »

Level 3 has had an impact. It has slowed the increase. This is not a final solution but it is very possible, given what we were told regarding the high percentage of transmission events occurring in the household environment, that when the effects of this additional restriction on household visits are seen in 2/3 weeks time, we will hopefully have a workable solution for the coming months.

Slowed it? Sure for a week

We are now back to exponential growth

That’s not slowed!

xvril wrote: »

Honestly think a level 5 lockdown will cause more problems than it will resolve

Not an easy decision either way. No matter what they do - there will be criticism in abundance.

RossNolan wrote: »

We literally only have stalling tactics without a vaccine.

Yes but within that some approaches are more effective than others. HSE are like headless chickens at the moment. This whole thing of it been down to domestic spread first and foremost is a total joke. Either the whole country is having a house party every weekend or the virus is magically coming down through the light fittings of people's homes. Domestic spread is very much their answer to everything. In other words they haven't a fupping clue.

Necro wrote: »

But the incidence rate is actually growing, just slower than other counties which are doing pretty bad.

It's the smallest of small victories I suppose, but it's not actively combatting the spread.

Though I reckon that's down to lack of enforcement rather than the actual restrictions themselves.

But as I've said I think that is at least partly due to contamination from neighbouring counties that have exploding numbers of cases. With everyone under Level 3 I think the rate will eventually slow down and then decline, slowly perhaps but still.