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Opening of "No-Food" pubs pushed out again

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Breaking rules as usual. This is why we are going to level 5 because some people are just too ignorant/stupid/selfish to heed the rules.

    Nothing stopping you drinking at home.

    Ah I can’t have another run at my mates neighbour from my house ;)


  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It’s 100% allowed. There’s no law against it. I’ll probably have more than 3 pints too, that’s also not allowed!! I’m on a “guideline” spree!!!

    You are being irresponsible though, actual law or not. It’s the irresponsible people that have us headed where we’re headed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,854 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    The gym meat head response says a lot about why you see them as essential anyway. Too hard get the roids to the house?

    I do not train to gain muscle. I train for my mental wellbeing and getting strong and fit is a by product of this.

    “Meat head”... “roids”...

    Another gob****e on this thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Oh. You do classes. Cute.

    I do indeed. It's one of my main hobbies.

    But is it essential? Of course not. Just like pubs aren't.

    You can hijack the term "Mental Health" all you want to try to convince people that it is, but it's simply not.


  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I do not train to gain muscle. I train for my mental wellbeing and getting strong and fit is a by product of this.

    “Meat head”... “roids”...

    Another gob****e on this thread.

    You’re some lad to be calling people gob****es when you’re scoffing at someone for doing classes. Very mentally aware of someone bleating on about wellbeing.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    You are being irresponsible though, actual law or not. It’s the irresponsible people that have us headed where we’re headed.

    Life is for living, not for hiding under the bed.


  • Posts: 12,836 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Surely 6 months into this the idea of 'essential' is out the window. On a short term scale sure, feck all is 'essential', but if we're talking 18 months...social activites, sports etc. all surely become essential. Otherwise what's the point? Work, sleep, repeat.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,148 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Should just give everyone 350 a week. Shut everything down and feck the FDI and the entepreneurs etc.

    I am in Friday mode, just to mention.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,824 ✭✭✭ShooterSF


    You’re such an ignoramus. You literally have no idea. Gyms absolutely should be essential. It’s scientifically proven how good gyms are for mental health. Nobody is “hijacking” anything here. I train minimum 6 or 7 times a week, heavy lifting. I have soccer training too some nights on top of that. The last lockdown saw my mental health plummet with not being able to go to the gym. And don’t give me that nonsense of “go for a run” either. It’s not the same. Only an ignoramus with zero clue of training/gyms would come out with such a retarded statement.

    I started training when the gyms reopened and I love it. Theres no way I could afford to replicate what I do there at home as it requires the rack thingy but it isn't essential unless we are changing the meaning of essential. It helps, a lot but to me essential is food , health, power, clean water etc. Mental health is definitely an issue we all face but we have to find ways to handle it ourselves if things need to close to protect society.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,863 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    In no universe are gyms or pubs essential!

    Only a moron would argue that they are, and I bet they hijack the term "Mental Health" whilst they're at it as well!

    Mental health now seems to come up when you’re mildly uncomfortable or a little annoyed. I go to The gym nearly every day and it was annoying when they closed but I just went jogging or out on bike and did some things at home instead. Bunch of moaning pussies. How would they have survived during the emergency with rationing etc?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,454 ✭✭✭ziggyman17


    Life is for living, not for hiding under the bed.

    drinks in your mates house.......You sure are living the high life........:p


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Oh. You do classes. Cute.

    I do nothing? Is that cute?

    I’m going to be in a foul mood this weekend though so I feel your pain can’t drink this weekend for the first time since I don’t know when (we are talking years) stupid tablets for a stomach issue! Trying to concentrate on work today knowing I wasn’t coming down the stairs straight to the fridge for beer when I finished was not easy. At least the BH next weekend can make up for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,863 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I do nothing? Is that cute?

    I’m going to be in a foul mood this weekend though so I feel your pain can’t drink this weekend for the first time since I don’t know when (we are talking years) stupid tablets for a stomach issue! Trying to concentrate on work today knowing I wasn’t coming down the stairs straight to the fridge for beer when I finished was not easy. At least the BH next weekend can make up for it.

    I’m no one to talk with my drinking habits, but I think you’d find life in general a lot easier to deal with if you cut down on the sauce. Pretty much all aspects of life improve.


  • Posts: 24,774 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I’m no one to talk with my drinking habits, but I think you’d find life in general a lot easier to deal with if you cut down on the sauce. Pretty much all aspects of life improve.

    Stop, can’t wait for next weekend and back to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,863 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Stop, can’t wait for next weekend and back to it.

    That’s not a good sign! I’m saying this while drinking a can of 6.2% Amstel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Mental health now seems to come up when you’re mildly uncomfortable or a little annoyed. I go to The gym nearly every day and it was annoying when they closed but I just went jogging or out on bike and did some things at home instead. Bunch of moaning pussies. How would they have survived during the emergency with rationing etc?

    Exactly. Hijacking the term "Mental Health" trivialises the plight of those with actual Mental Health issues.

    Lads who are inconvenienced because they don't want to exercise outdoors or can't have a few pints screaming "Mental Health", it's pretty pathetic! Especially when people have real mental health issues to worry about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    My gym has been open since the 29th of June and not one case has arisen from it

    You might be right, but you have absolutely no way of really knowing this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,863 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I go to Westwood in Clontarf and it’s a free for all. Sauna, steam room, all have more people than they’re supposed to every day. Groups of young people training together etc. I don’t think they should close, yet, but it looks to me like Covid could easily spread in my gym anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,570 ✭✭✭The White Wolf


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    You might be right, but you have absolutely no way of really knowing this.

    I think I would because the usual precautions are taken such as taking people's mobile phone on each sign on. What's the odds someone could frequent a gym since the beginning of July and for it not to filter through that there's been an outbreak, a place where the old go as well as young?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭votecounts


    If the schools remain open under Level 5, then most pubs are sunk completely. Even the dogs on the street know that schools are a primary driver in resurgence of Covid. We would be stuck in lockdown for months with such shenanigans. Publicans deserve a fighting chance, imagine being vilified for so long while another sector gets away with it without any scrutiny. I would be hugely aggrieved in their shoes.
    Same with GAA, given a free hand imagine a group of players from Kerry allowed travel to Monaghan individually when the rest of us are advised to stay in our counties. Cancel the League and The All ireland ffs.
    Schools are problematic in that a lot of parents cannot work from home
    Just on RTE, these GAA parties are a major cause of cases according to a local GP


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,943 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    You’re some lad to be calling people gob****es when you’re scoffing at someone for doing classes. Very mentally aware of someone bleating on about wellbeing.

    Did you actually think he was genuine?


    Thats just the latest excuse thats wheeled out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    Exactly. Hijacking the term "Mental Health" trivialises the plight of those with actual Mental Health issues.

    Lads who are inconvenienced because they don't want to exercise outdoors or can't have a few pints screaming "Mental Health", it's pretty pathetic! Especially when people have real mental health issues to worry about.

    That's a bit cheap on both sides. Mental health isn't a stark choice between perfect happiness and the depths of depression. There are loads of degrees of mental health - mental ill health

    I think socialising is really important to mental health and lots of people socialise down the pub so lots of people will miss that social interaction. Trivialising the effect of reducing social interactions is not cool.

    Likewise, if you know your mental health declines when you can't socialise down the pub, then get proactive about getting your social interactions in other ways. And be proactive about finding other ways to keep yourself mentally healthy.

    Yes, closing pubs will lead to mental I'll health if everyone sits on their own doing nothing instead of going to the pub. If people choose to do things to socialise and take care of their mental health in other ways, then the effect won't be nearly as bad.

    Throwing their arms in the air and saying "I can't go to the pub so there's nothing I can do to stop my mental health declining", is just a self-fulfilling prophecy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 869 ✭✭✭Simon201


    MrStuffins wrote: »
    I train martial arts 5 nights a week.

    I'd say you're a black belt in karaoke at this stage :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Simon201 wrote: »
    I'd say you're a black belt in karaoke at this stage :D

    I've a fine set of pipes on me as well :D


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,484 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    A number of posters carded and a lot more posts deleted

    If you cannot remain civil do not post, otherwise I will remove posting privileges


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,267 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    heard from a few publicans that it so hard with the new maximum numbers

    Turning away loads of customers, also difficult for someone on there own


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭vafankillar


    obviously gyms aren't essential but either is half of the stuff sold in supermarkets. That's what was one of the worst things about the lockdown for myself and co-workers. we were up to our eyes busy nearly all day, people were coming in multiple times a week and sometimes even twice a day. coming in to get lunch from the deli, then later again to go the lotto, a daily millions and 7 scratch cards. was an absolute joke.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,254 ✭✭✭✭El_Duderino 09


    obviously gyms aren't essential but either is half of the stuff sold in supermarkets. That's what was one of the worst things about the lockdown for myself and co-workers. we were up to our eyes busy nearly all day, people were coming in multiple times a week and sometimes even twice a day. coming in to get lunch from the deli, then later again to go the lotto, a daily millions and 7 scratch cards. was an absolute joke.

    Yeah I'm sure some people got around guidelines by going to essential businesses for non essential goods. Not a lot you could do about that. You could propose to ban sale of non essential items, if you want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,496 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Tell ya what, I'd love if the pubs were able to open over Christmas. Nothing like a good Crimbo sesh!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,638 ✭✭✭votecounts


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    heard from a few publicans that it so hard with the new maximum numbers

    Turning away loads of customers, also difficult for someone on there own
    that was always going to be the case as they look to get maximum value from the tables.
    I say that as a person who likes to pint or two on their own to read a paper or watch the world go bye, simple things that we will hopefully do again when this is all over


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