Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Jenna James · 16-10-2020 02:26PM

Blondini wrote: »

Level 5 with schools fully open.
Marvelous!

Fast forward six weeks with case numbers even higher :
"Oh, it was the schools after all.
Someone should have told us".

Stupidity.

The denial is astoundingly.

Cluedo Monopoly · 16-10-2020 02:26PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

How does closing retail make sense when schools stay open?

It makes zero sense

The schools wont be open for much longer. Online from midterm break.

landofthetree · 16-10-2020 02:26PM

Close the schools in Nov,Dec and Jan.

Keep them open in June,July,August.

Summer holidays cut to two weeks in Sep.

Job done.

The_Brood · 16-10-2020 02:26PM

hmmm wrote: »

What extra is Level 5 supposed to get us? It's not spreading in retail. Level 5 doesn't close schools.

If it's spreading by people moving around between houses, closing more businesses isn't going to help anything.

It's absolute and complete total madness. Ruin businesses and services people need, but keep all avenues for the actual virus spread open/no enforcement powers to stop them.

Absolute and complete madness.

Necro · 16-10-2020 02:27PM

landofthetree wrote: »

Close the schools in Nov,Dec and Jan.

Keep them open in June,July,August.

Summer holidays cut to two weeks in Sep.

Job done.

You're just asking for an argument now ain't you

Deeper Blue · 16-10-2020 02:27PM

Will the bigger numbers make people cop on a bit more?

I hope so but I shan't be holding my breath

MerlinSouthDub · 16-10-2020 02:27PM

Blondini wrote: »

Level 5 with schools fully open.
Marvelous!

Fast forward six weeks with case numbers even higher :
"Oh, it was the schools after all.
Someone should have told us".

Stupidity.

Have you read the twitter thread from Alasdair Munro about infection rates by age in the UK? Have a read, great info using unbiased data. Well worth a few minutes of your time.

Plumbthedepths · 16-10-2020 02:27PM

landofthetree wrote: »

Close the schools in Nov,Dec and Jan.

Keep them open in June,July,August.

Summer holidays cut to two weeks in Sep.

Job done.

Good luck getting the ASTI or TUI on board.

Cluedo Monopoly · 16-10-2020 02:27PM

landofthetree wrote: »

Close the schools in Nov,Dec and Jan.

Keep them open in June,July,August.

Summer holidays cut to two weeks in Sep.

Job done.

But the teachers need 3 months off. And the kids are needed on the farm.

Kermit.de.frog · 16-10-2020 02:27PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Swab data for today (16/10)

Positive Swabs|Positivity|Total Swabs
1,376|7.75%|17,758

The boom is getting boomier

Bertie 2007

mohawk · 16-10-2020 02:28PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

This is why we need a level 5 lockdown and the deluded relaxers need to soften their cough.

Are we targeting high risk areas regarding spread of the virus? Are we actually engaging with employers to make sure as many people as possible are working from home and those that aren’t are maintaining social distancing plus masks? During the lockdown what are HSE, NPHET, government etc going to do to prevent a third lockdown?
I think people are perfectly entitled to voice their opinions. And when people are making huge sacrifices required for a lockdown they are perfectly reasonable to expect authorities to hold up their side.

caveat emptor · 16-10-2020 02:28PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

What the fućk is the point in this.

Fishing for likes or just trying to go on a wind up ?

God no, my nana has a very active life and wants to keep living. I think that has been part of the reason she lived so long. She's under no illusions but has been in hospital enough to know that it doesn't take much for it to become overwhelmed.

This too shall pass.

Necro · 16-10-2020 02:28PM

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

The schools wont be open for much longer. Online from midterm break.

This is very possible too. Interestingly our national school just sent on their remote learning policy this morning....

'As a precaution'

Hurrache · 16-10-2020 02:28PM

Necro wrote: »

Jaysus. Things are escalating quicker than foreseen it seems

This is the point, it was foreseen, by NEPHET, who seem to be demonised by the people that don't want to face the reality.

Roots 2020 · 16-10-2020 02:29PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Does a positive swab always point to a new case?

No is the short answer. Over a 7 day period positive swabs and cases confirmed tend to be similar in numbers.

Today you might have 1,100 cases announced. But that backlog of 250 plus usually comes through down the line. There may be 100 odd in the difference per day if you accumulate a week's total.

Nqp15hhu · 16-10-2020 02:29PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

Should be no border on our island full stop , shows the stupidity of our island been divided . We all live on the one island and there should be a 32 county policy

And yet ROI has a far lower case rate.. so there are differences.

mloc123 · 16-10-2020 02:30PM

Necro wrote: »

Are they going to lock the schools down and put us all into the start of ANOTHER 6 week cycle?

Because that is likely to happen

And then with the schools closed and cases still are not dropping... they will realise the levels no longer matter, because the issue is compliance.

OwenM · 16-10-2020 02:30PM

Deleted User wrote: »

This is why we need a level 5 lockdown and the deluded relaxers need to soften their cough.

When 80% are asymptomatic?

plodder · 16-10-2020 02:31PM

landofthetree wrote: »

The app has been a bit of a disappointment.

Only 3091 people who have got covid have uploaded random IDs.

Isnt that a really low percentage of cases since its launch?

I was really surprised to see that when you get a positive test result (by text) you don't get the code to upload your random IDs in the text. You don't get that until the contact tracers call you, which delays the whole thing unnecessarily. Fixing that won't make much difference here and now, but it has to be something sorted out for the next wave.

hawkwing · 16-10-2020 02:32PM

Hulk Hands wrote: »

A bankrupt 35 year old is at far greater risk from stress related diseases or even suicide than Covid. Think for a second before you make pathetic blanket statements calling people selfish. Pro restricitons is your viewpoint and it suits your situation at this time. It's completely understandable that some people whose livelihood's will be affected don't want to see Level 5

There have been 1,494 deaths of people with underlying conditions from 13,385 confirmed cases with underlying conditions. The median age of those dying with underlying conditions is 83.

There were 1,383 deaths of people with underlying conditions in the over 65 age group. Of the 125 deaths in the 25-64 age group, 109 had underlying conditions.

In terms of underlying conditions, chronic heart disease was present in 44% of deaths. CSO.ie

16-10-2020 02:32PM

OwenM wrote: »

When 80% are asymptomatic?

It's about the R number.

DrSpongeBobz · 16-10-2020 02:33PM

Wasn't the positive swabs yesterday 700 and something. Maybe a backlog yesterday

OwenM · 16-10-2020 02:33PM

LuasSimon wrote: »

Should be no border on our island full stop , shows the stupidity of our island been divided . We all live on the one island and there should be a 32 county policy

That conversation has existed for many decades, political realities can't be wished away.

amadangomor · 16-10-2020 02:34PM

irishrover99 wrote: »

A mate who’s a north sider just told the army are getting out of their sleeping bags in the Phoenix park. I live on the south side so not sure about this. Can this be verified?

Please no more army on the streets ****e like back in March/April.

If I see similar on Facebook I'm blaming you :mad:

Busi_Girl08 · 16-10-2020 02:35PM

DrSpongeBobz wrote: »

Wasn't the positive swabs yesterday 700 and something. Maybe a backlog yesterday

966

OwenM · 16-10-2020 02:35PM

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

But the teachers need 3 months off. And the kids are needed on the farm.

Exactly, I mean who is going to harvest the spaghetti if the kids are in school? Who???

AlphaDelta1 · 16-10-2020 02:36PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Positive Swabs
1,376

7.75%
in the last 24 hours

17,758
in the last 24 hours

FFS

amadangomor · 16-10-2020 02:36PM

El Sueño wrote: »

Will the bigger numbers make people cop on a bit more?

I hope so but I shan't be holding my breath

Selfish people will find a way to justify not being responsible.

MOH · 16-10-2020 02:37PM

Hurrache wrote: »

This is the point, it was foreseen, by NEPHET, who seem to be demonised by the people that don't want to face the reality.

It was foreseen by NPHET that thanks to our improved public health infrastructure and better contact tracing we'd be able to avoid a general lockdown by quickly targeting clusters, tracing contacts, and implementing localised restrictions.

Unfortunately it turned out that we were never making any real effort to identify the causes of clusters, our contract tracing was nowhere near as efficient as they were claiming, the much trumpeted "Living with Covid" plan is nowhere near fit for purpose, and now we're facing a possible extended national lockdown at the highest level of restrictions.

Criticism of NPHET is entirely justified. Referring to it as them being "demonised" is just not wanting to face the reality that they've failed miserably at their task.

Kermit.de.frog · 16-10-2020 02:37PM

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Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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