Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

So, another round of Covid Bingo.

Today, it's 'Doorbells'. Did anyone have that? Anyone????

Oh right, ye all said schools.

Another roll over next week so.

Deleted User wrote: »

Nothing new. Close the borders and the airports, mandatory supervised isolation for arrivals, zero COVID etc etc.

well the only alternative is to "learn to live with it", that lesson more or less started at midnight will probably ramp up over the next few weeks and will probably conclude in April.

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah, it has become very clear that the NHPET stance is far too narrowly focused, as you would expect given their remit. As some have suggested maybe it is time to add some new, non-medical, voices to it.

Sounds like a dangerous idea. People who suggest that seem to forget NPHET are not the government.

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah, it has become very clear that the NHPET stance is far too narrowly focused, as you would expect given their remit. As some have suggested maybe it is time to add some new, non-medical, voices to it.

Why would you add non medical voices to a medical body ffs.

As you say it is there remit so they are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. They make recommendations and then its on the government to take in to account other factors and make their decision.

mloc123 wrote: »

Cabinet are the non medical voices tho? NPHET only care about heath right, they will recommend the best approach from a health point of view and then the government will dilute that down to balance health and all other aspects?

Yeah, they are but the size of NPHET offers scope for other input into decisions even if the Cabinet goes a different way later. It is now about getting a balance, not absolutes.

mountgomery burns wrote: »

According to latest report from the ECDC, 12 countries in Europe with a higher 14 day incidence rate higher than Ireland and 3 more that are also over 100 per 100K in the report.

Who do we compare the Irish "collective cop on" to? Do you not think the ask might be too great at this stage? The cornerstone of the advice is still to social distance and be two metres away from everyone...that is some ask of the general population for 8 months, with no end in sight.

Absolutely. So sick of this line of thinking that it’s the feckless Irish attitude, or GAA, or our uniquely virulent Pubs or our penchant for house parties that is causing numbers to go up. There must be some amount of Irish in Spain, France, Belgium, Netherlands, Czech Republic... etc etc.

The virus spreads by normal people doing normal things is really how it could be summed up. Not granny killers coughing in people’s faces or having massive raves in basements. Normality can only be avoided for so long. The colder weather is driving much of what’s left of social activity indoors also which is not going to help but that’s the reality of the next few months as we have an unpleasant climate during the colder months.

hmmm wrote: »

Yes. NPHET are there to give clear medical advice and you don't want that muddied. It's up to Government to balance the medical advice with any other advice they want to listen to.

The government are perfectly capable of muddying the waters themselves.

iamwhoiam wrote: »

No wonder the bloody covid is spreading . We all got it wrong , it wasn’t crowded rooms or weddings or travel or gaa shenanigans. It was the doorbell and the towel we all share and the spoon that apparently everyone passed around and licked .

I've already planned our alternative family Halloween with the traditional games of "lick the doorbell" and "see how far you can stick a spoon up your nose", and now the government come out and tell us we shouldn't be doing this? I am outraged.

rafi bomb wrote: »

Why would you add non medical voices to a medical body ffs.

As you say it is there remit so they are doing exactly what they are supposed to do. They make recommendations and then its on the government to take in to account other factors and make their decision.

Their decisions are disease-related only. A decision which said we'd rally like Level 5 , but we recommend Level 4, is that kind of solution. Our political strategy now is to live with that, that means not going to Level 5, if it can be avoided. We also know that recommendations take twice as long to unwind.

Boggles wrote: »

There was 84 "admissions" Sunday-Friday last week.

There was 130 for the same period this week.

That's a 55% increase.

Looks to be they have sped up discharges.

The goal here is ensuring that the system can cope. It doesn't really matter if we're admitting 1,000 people a day, if we're also discharging 1,000.

IK09 wrote: »

Im in Galway and I called Monday at 9.30am. Doc called me back at 10.30am. Booked in for test Today at 5.00pm. Im assuming ill get results by 5pm Friday. So ya 4-5 days is about right.

Im fairly certain I dont have it but cant be too careful. Hardest part of it is that I couldnt let my daughter go to playschool so shes at home with me while im also trying to work. Next to impossible. Id love to be able to just go to the shop

Got results today at 9.15am so about 4.5 days for the full process from start to finish. Which isnt bad at all. I think the hold up is with contact tracing. Negative result thank buddha

Gael23 wrote: »

Little to no patients discharged from ICU go home

I know, I never suggested otherwise.

is_that_so wrote: »

But ICU numbers still holding steady.

Do you remember that game Ker-plunk?
Ireland feels a bit like that right now... only one marble down so far... ooooppp, another one there... steady, steady, steaaaadyyyy... :eek: all the marbles come crashing down.