Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Kh1993 · 15-10-2020 10:53PM

Jack Lambert was very sensible and pragmatic on prime time tonight. The prime time presenter though seemed hell bent on walking him into a sensationalist headline answer though (eg. Should the GAA go ahead).

majcos · 15-10-2020 10:53PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Apparently the BAM communities got hit very hard in the UK.

Yes. Noted in many epidemiological reports from different countries.

Could not easily find breakdown of ethnicity of ICU admissions in Ireland but UK reports gives breakdown by ethnicity. Death rate is higher among BAME compared to white ethnicity but still markedly higher in ICU in people of white ethnicity alone at 38.7% compared to Irish ICU mortality rate at 20.3%. Deaths in UK ICUs were 43.4% in Asians, 41.8% in Blacks, 41.4% in those of mixed race and 38.7% in Whites.

Spanish Eyes · 15-10-2020 10:54PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I can get news, but hard to get good debate. I think radio is still the best for that.

There is no such thing as a good debate anymore. Too much infiltration from SJW and a media that is very compliant.

Those who might challenge some things are silenced. Just lost my voice there lol.

But it is true, well for me it is.. Do not question, do not ask, it will all be decided for us anyway.

Jeff2 · 15-10-2020 10:54PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Let me get this straight, two 16 year old girls walk up behind you to join a queue, you move behind them, and wonder why they look worried?

They were a foot behind me.

Not a meter or two meters.

Then I kept my distance behind them.

Poorside · 15-10-2020 10:55PM

lukas8888 wrote: »

Constantly listening to TV/Radio interviews with GP'S all speaking as if their covid experts on the coalface.My experience is that if you have symptoms you call they make appointment get result back and charge the taxpayer 30 euros.Any of the Doctor practices in my area are like fort knox,very difficult to access for routine consultations etc.Yet they are paraded around Media as if they are front line ICU.

How many GP's have been paraded by the media?

mloc123 · 15-10-2020 10:56PM

Poorside wrote: »

How many GP's have been paraded by the media?

Maithi o toole... Lad loves the attention

majcos · 15-10-2020 10:58PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Cork with zero ICU beds available in both CUH and Mercy.

CUH has one covid patient in ICU.
I don't know about Mercy.

Spookwoman, do you know how ICU capacity in CUH can be reached even with only one covid patient? Is breaching capacity a normal thing even in non covid times?

Yes. Unfortunately ICU capacity often very tight in Ireland long before Covid. CUH would take transfers from around SouthWest for many conditions.

s1ippy · 15-10-2020 10:59PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

There is also zero garuntee that my child won't be one of the few to get malaria, salmonella, e-coli, weils disease.... etc etc etc

You can reduce the garuntee even further by not going to sub-Saharan countries without inoculation for malaria, by cooking meats adequately and by avoiding water rats might have urinated in.

MOR316 · 15-10-2020 11:00PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Stopped people from going on pub crawls, stopped drunkeness in pubs. Made total sense at a time when pubs were reopening.

No, it didn't stop pub crawls.
No, it didn't stop drunkenness in pubs.
No, it didn't make total sense

I have some magic beans. PM me for more info

igCorcaigh · 15-10-2020 11:00PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

There is no such thing as a good debate anymore. Too much infiltration from SJW and a media that is very compliant.

Those who might challenge some things are silenced. Just lost my voice there lol.

But it is true, well for me it is.. Do not question, do not ask, it will all be decided for us anyway.

Nah, there is still some good debates with good guests,if you search around. I'll post some if I come across them.

No idea what you mean about sjw in the context of the pandemic.

Wolf359f · 15-10-2020 11:01PM

spookwoman wrote: »

HSE Operations report out early tonight

I guess the Connolly figure last night was a typo.
I also notice they have added back in some private hospitals in the ICU list.

Spanish Eyes · 15-10-2020 11:02PM

Poorside wrote: »

How many GP's have been paraded by the media?

Illona Duffy from Monaghan is one. Never off the radio now.

majcos · 15-10-2020 11:02PM

235 in hospital, up from 214 last night but stable compared to figures over last few days.

Numbers in hospital stable in Donegal and Cavan with Galway having highest number of confirmed hospitalised cases in last 24 hours.

29 in ICU, one death in ICU last 24 hours.
36 available ICU beds across the country.

Edit : Note seems there was an error in Connolly hospital figure last night so total admissions may not have dipped to 214.

speckle · 15-10-2020 11:02PM

spookwoman wrote: »

HSE Operations report out early tonight

Spookwoman, if you get some time,would you be able to figure out from one of your esrlier charts to todays, where the new29 Icu beds went too hospital wise. thanks

igCorcaigh · 15-10-2020 11:03PM

MOR316 wrote: »

No, it didn't stop pub crawls.
No, it didn't stop drunkenness in pubs.
No, it didn't make total sense

I have some magic beans. PM me for more info

I have no data, but I can see how the meal rule absolutely made sense. But that's just my perception.

Plumbthedepths · 15-10-2020 11:06PM

majcos wrote: »

Yes. Noted in many epidemiological reports from different countries.

Could not easily find breakdown of ethnicity of ICU admissions in Ireland but UK reports gives breakdown by ethnicity. Death rate is higher among BAME compared to white ethnicity but still markedly higher in ICU in people of white ethnicity alone at 38.7% compared to Irish ICU mortality rate at 20.3%. Deaths in UK ICUs were 43.4% in Asians, 41.8% in Blacks, 41.4% in those of mixed race and 38.7% in Whites.

Obesity features very heavily aswell.

igCorcaigh · 15-10-2020 11:06PM

majcos wrote: »

235 in hospital, up from 214 last night but stable compared to figures over last few days.

Numbers in hospital stable in Donegal and Cavan with Galway having highest number of confirmed hospitalised cases in last 24 hours.

29 in ICU, one death in ICU last 24 hours.
36 available ICU beds across the country.

Thanks.

One thing I do notice about hospitalisation figures is, that they are admitting and discharging a lot of people per day, as in most patients are seen to and discharged quickly.

Which is to be expected.

But that daily volume of in and out takes up a lot of resources.

stephenjmcd · 15-10-2020 11:07PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

I guess the Connolly figure last night was a typo.
I also notice they have added back in some private hospitals in the ICU list.

A few privates have always been in ICU numbers

s1ippy · 15-10-2020 11:08PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Thanks.

One thing I do notice about hospitalisation figures is, that they are admitting and discharging a lot of people per day, as in most patients are seen to and discharged quickly.

Which is to be expected.

But that daily volume of in and out takes up a lot of resources.

It's probably different patients going in to the ones leaving. The one Siobhán ní Bhriain, live integrated care lead with NPHET said covid patients have an average stay of 20 days.

spookwoman · 15-10-2020 11:09PM

Wolf359f wrote: »

I guess the Connolly figure last night was a typo.
I also notice they have added back in some private hospitals in the ICU list.

Yeah I did a double take on the Connolly number myself. I'd say they added them back in with winter coming.

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Cork with zero ICU beds available in both CUH and Mercy.

CUH has one covid patient in ICU.
I don't know about Mercy.

Spookwoman, do you know how ICU capacity in CUH can be reached even with only one covid patient? Is breaching capacity a normal thing even in non covid times?

I honestly don't know except CUH takes in patients from Waterford
and this ref WRH came out today that its running over capacity now for 2 weeks
UHW OVER CAPACITY AS COVID ADMISSIONS INCREASE

111 patients in isolation at University Hospital Waterford today

MANAGER of University Hospital Waterford Grace Rothwell has issued a stark warning to her staff as covid-19 related admissions increase significantly in the past week.

In a letter issued to all staff this morning, Ms Rothwell said that “in capacity terms we are above capacity on a consistent basis now for 2+ weeks”.

“This is a real concern, particularly given the impact in recent days on elective admissions,” Ms Rothwell said. “We will continue elective care for as long as it is safe to do so but in order to admit patients we require continued turnover of beds.”

As of 11am this morning (October 15) there were now six patients positive with Covid-19 and 53 patients on a covid pathway. In total there are currently 111 patients in isolation at University Hospital Waterford today.

[According to a spokesperson for the hospital, the COVID pathway in University Hospital Waterford “comprises of patients who have been swabbed who are isolated while awaiting their results, patients that have transferred in from other healthcare facilities that are isolated as a precaution, and patients that have been tested and received a negative result but whom clinicians have requested remain isolated and be monitored for on-going symptoms.]

The hospital situation in UHW presently is –

There are 189 beds allocated to Medicine – Medicine today is under bed compliment by 22.

· There are 24 beds allocated to Haematology / Oncology – Haematology / Oncology is over bed compliment by 10.

· There are 53 beds allocated to Maternity & Gynae – Maternity & Gynae are under bed compliment by 17.

· There are a total of 121 beds allocated to Surgical / Orthopaedics / Eye / ENT – Surgical / Orthopaedics / Eye / ENT are over bed compliment by 15.

Ms Rothwell said that it was expected that detail of the Funded Winter Plan would become available this week.

“This is significant in terms of what ‘capacity’ we will have to meet ever increasing demand moving forward,” Ms Rothwell stated. “It is clear that we require additional capacity for the coming months. Our Crisis Management Team continues to meet 2 / 3 times weekly to address issues arising and look ahead and make decisions as to how we will as a team manage the ‘Covid Winter’.

https://waterford-news.ie/2020/10/15/uhw-over-capacity-as-covid-admissions-increase/

FintanMcluskey · 15-10-2020 11:10PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

There is no such thing as a good debate anymore. Too much infiltration from SJW and a media that is very compliant.

Those who might challenge some things are silenced. Just lost my voice there lol.

But it is true, well for me it is.. Do not question, do not ask, it will all be decided for us anyway.

We are recruiting on the relaxation thread.

You seem like you are ready for the jump

Wolf359f · 15-10-2020 11:11PM

stephenjmcd wrote: »

A few privates have always been in ICU numbers

Ah you're right. I never noticed it till now!

ACitizenErased · 15-10-2020 11:11PM

CUH rarely has more than 3 free ICU beds, it's all very normal.

Spanish Eyes · 15-10-2020 11:12PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Nah, there is still some good debates with good guests,if you search around. I'll post some if I come across them.

No idea what you mean about sjw in the context of the pandemic.

Ah thanks if you have links to good INDEPENDENT debates.

SJW means to me that most if not all debate or commentary is focused on what some see as necessary in their eyes, you know, Travellers, Social Protection, Homeless, etc. It is never talked about. Because it is not allowed anymore.

but many don't get it at all because they either have to pay for it, or it is free.

440Hertz · 15-10-2020 11:12PM

Seems we’re no longer welcome in Belgium without prior testing & quarantine.

https://twitter.com/irishembbelgium/status/1316444943846699008?s=21

FintanMcluskey · 15-10-2020 11:12PM

Jeff2 wrote: »

They were a foot behind me.

Not a meter or two meters.

Then I kept my distance behind them.

Ah ok.

Two 16 year old girls should have know better I reckon

MOR316 · 15-10-2020 11:13PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

I have no data, but I can see how the meal rule absolutely made sense. But that's just my perception.

Take it from someone who was in bars every weekend, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, between June 29th up until two weeks ago...

It stopped nothing! I still got drunk and went from bar to bar. My friends did the same. "Respectable" people, who are friends of mine, who have jobs such as Solicitors, Financial Consultants, Doctors, Nurses all did the same as me.
The 1 hour 45 minute rule was upheld in about 4 places. Stay as long as you want in most places

It stopped nothing!

What the bars and restaurants opening did do however was, it proved they aren't at fault for the rise in cases

Spanish Eyes · 15-10-2020 11:13PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

We are recruiting on the relaxation thread.

You seem like you are ready for the jump

LOL.

pjohnson · 15-10-2020 11:14PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Nah, there is still some good debates with good guests,if you search around. I'll post some if I come across them.

No idea what you mean about sjw in the context of the pandemic.

Probably that there arent enough cranks preaching how the virus is harmless and masks a conspiracy etc. etc.

spookwoman · 15-10-2020 11:14PM

speckle wrote: »

Spookwoman, if you get some time,would you be able to figure out from one of your esrlier charts to todays, where the new29 Icu beds went too hospital wise. thanks

Only started inputting the numbers and bakc to 10/10/2020 do you have an idea when they may have been added i can then go back through the files and check

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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