Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

manniot2 · 15-10-2020 10:23PM

Quick question. What did the 9e meal with your pint rule in place all summer achieve?

Stheno · 15-10-2020 10:25PM

majcos wrote: »

I am questioning why there is a difference between mortality rate in Irish versus UK ICUs. This difference between the ICU mortality rates has nothing to do with the demographics of the overall cohort of people who died.

Again, the mean of age of people who were admitted to ICU was 58.8 with a median of 60. These were not 82.4 years old. The INARC also gives a breakdown of the underlying medical illnesses of those admitted to ICU and the percentage of those with severe underlying disease is very small. If someone had a terminal illness or very severe underlying medical condition, regardless of how young they are, they would be far less likely to be admitted to ICU.

Regarding the 95% figure of the overall cohort of people who died with an underlying health condition, this includes every medical condition regardless or not of that condition having an impact on life expectancy. If someone has hypertension and it is well controlled on one tablet, there should not be a major difference in their life expectancy compared to the rest of the population. If you right off everyone with underlying medical conditions, that would take out at least half of the adult population in Ireland.

The age and underlying conditions of the overall group of people who died of Covid-19 has nothing to do with my post musing about why there is a difference in ICU mortality rates between two relatively similar countries.

Difference in ethnicity between here and the UK?

FintanMcluskey · 15-10-2020 10:25PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Quick question. What did the 9e meal with your pint rule in place all summer achieve?

Increased risk of obesity, thus increased risk of Covid, kept patrons sober though.

A paradox essentially

GazzaL · 15-10-2020 10:25PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Quick question. What did the 9e meal with your pint rule in place all summer achieve?

Immunity. I went for a curry and a pint and still haven't caught COVID. I don't know why they're bothering with vaccines tbh.

SPDUB · 15-10-2020 10:28PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

I knew maybe 2-3 people all along, I now know 7 in the last 3 days.
1 is one of my very good friends, who has barely left the house and believes they caught it in a chipper.
It appears one town in particular in Cork (starts with c and ends with -aline) is particularly problemsome atm.

Friend of family in Cork believe they caught it in chipper .

Family member was going to meet them this week but then heard about positive test

MOR316 · 15-10-2020 10:31PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Quick question. What did the 9e meal with your pint rule in place all summer achieve?

I gained a stone but, did find some pubs that did amazing food

Other than that, load of ****e, just like everything The Government and NPHET do and say

igCorcaigh · 15-10-2020 10:32PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I do not understand how anyone could watch RTE. But am enjoying the updates from that incestuous place, meaning who you know, not what you know and familial stuff.

Dee 4 Forbes might need to present herself socially distanced at a Dail Committee some day. Idiot, knowing that the likes of Ray Darcy and Joe whatsit on near a million between them are pure drivel.

We do not complain enough. Wrong thread I guess. Sorry now!

Was Prime Time worth watching?

I only have one player app so have to wait till it's uploaded.

Spanish Eyes · 15-10-2020 10:32PM

Qiaonasen wrote: »

For better or worse you are right. Northern Ireland has a huge impact on what happens in the Republic be it Corona or Brexit.

Does NI care about us here in the South though? I doubt it very much. You only have to see that they refuse to align with us at all. Despicable buckets the lot of them including SF.

majcos · 15-10-2020 10:32PM

Stheno wrote: »

Difference in ethnicity between here and the UK?

That is a possibility as part of explanation. Worse outcomes in many epidemiological reports for those of BAME ethnicity.

Just looking to see if I can find comparative breakdown of ethnicity of ICU admissions between Ireland and UK.

Edit: Could not easily find breakdown of ethnicity of ICU admissions in Ireland but UK reports gives breakdown by ethnicity. Death rate is higher among BAME compared to white ethnicity but still markedly higher in ICU in people of white ethnicity alone at 38.7% compared to Irish ICU mortality rate at 20.3%. Deaths in UK ICUs were 43.4% in Asians, 41.8% in Blacks, 41.4% in those of mixed race and 38.7% in Whites.

AUDI20 · 15-10-2020 10:33PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Quick question. What did the 9e meal with your pint rule in place all summer achieve?

Not drinking on an empty stomach?

lawrencesummers · 15-10-2020 10:34PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

And what about all the adult staff in schools? Do their lives and the lives of their families matter? Your own adult life? The lives of the other childrens families? There's also zero garuntee that your child won't be on the few to get covid bad.

People have to make their own choices.

I follow all the guidelines, me and my kids are not at any more risk of dying from Covid than we are from any number of other diseases that we take certain precautions over.

The kids grandparents are at risk however so we don't see the currently.

If the adult staff in the schools have health issues that put them at risk then they need to make their own call.

There is also zero garuntee that my child won't be one of the few to get malaria, salmonella, e-coli, weils disease.... etc etc etc

Plumbthedepths · 15-10-2020 10:34PM

Stheno wrote: »

Difference in ethnicity between here and the UK?

Apparently the BAM communities got hit very hard in the UK.

Spanish Eyes · 15-10-2020 10:35PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Was Prime Time worth watching?

I only have one player app so have to wait till it's uploaded.

Personally I don't bother at all with terrestrial TV now. The real news will filter through within five minutes on other platforms.

igCorcaigh · 15-10-2020 10:36PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Quick question. What did the 9e meal with your pint rule in place all summer achieve?

Stopped people from going on pub crawls, stopped drunkeness in pubs. Made total sense at a time when pubs were reopening.

igCorcaigh · 15-10-2020 10:37PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Personally I don't bother at all with terrestrial TV now. The real news will filter through within five minutes on other platforms.

I can get news, but hard to get good debate. I think radio is still the best for that.

Itssoeasy · 15-10-2020 10:38PM

I stupidly believed that listened to rte radio would in some ways better and less annoying then watching George lee and that crowd but clearly I’m an idiot as it’s just as bad and Ruth coppinger was a guest which didn’t help. Not even twenty minutes in the political points scoring had started by her and we in the middle of a pandemic.

lawrencesummers · 15-10-2020 10:38PM

manniot2 wrote: »

Quick question. What did the 9e meal with your pint rule in place all summer achieve?

One of the best Healy Rae soundbites ever....

https://twitter.com/MHealyRae/status/1283866659036508163?s=20

igCorcaigh · 15-10-2020 10:42PM

Itssoeasy wrote: »

I stupidly believed that listened to rte radio would in some ways better and less annoying then watching George lee and that crowd but clearly I’m an idiot as it’s just as bad and Ruth coppinger was a guest which didn’t help. Not even twenty minutes in the political points scoring had started by her and we in the middle of a pandemic.

One of the biggest mistakes by these radio shows is over dependence on politicians.

They should stop giving them free PR opportunities and invite on people with knowledge.

lawrencesummers · 15-10-2020 10:42PM

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Stopped people from going on pub crawls, stopped drunkeness in pubs. Made total sense at a time when pubs were reopening.

I for one am really looking forward to the zero pubs of Christmas this year.

Jeff2 · 15-10-2020 10:42PM

I was in local shop this evening and a woman be served at till then a guy a distance behind her then me.
Two about 16yo girls walk right up behind me so I go behind them and they walk on up behind the guy.
When he gets to the till with both girls right behind him one of the girls looks back and seemed confused as to how thing work with others keeping distance.

spookwoman · 15-10-2020 10:43PM

HSE Operations report out early tonight

Jinglejangle69 · 15-10-2020 10:44PM

Jeff2 wrote: »

I was in local shop this evening and a woman be served at till then a guy a distance behind her then me.
Two about 16yo girls walk right up behind me so I go behind them and they walk on up behind the guy.
When he gets to the till with both girls right behind him one of the girls looks back and seemed confused as to how thing work with others keeping distance.

Call the police.

FintanMcluskey · 15-10-2020 10:45PM

Jeff2 wrote: »

I was in local shop this evening and a woman be served at till then a guy a distance behind her then me.
Two about 16yo girls walk right up behind me so I go behind them and they walk on up behind the guy.
When he gets to the till with both girls right behind him one of the girls looks back and seemed confused as to how thing work with others keeping distance.

Let me get this straight, two 16 year old girls walk up behind you to join a queue, you move behind them, and wonder why they look worried?

lawrencesummers · 15-10-2020 10:47PM

Jeff2 wrote: »

I was in local shop this evening and a woman be served at till then a guy a distance behind her then me.
Two about 16yo girls walk right up behind me so I go behind them and they walk on up behind the guy.
When he gets to the till with both girls right behind him one of the girls looks back and seemed confused as to how thing work with others keeping distance.

Pic or it didn’t happen

polesheep · 15-10-2020 10:48PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

You'd argue with your shadow.

There are literally dozens of companies taking random demographic samples for research every day of the week. The same people don't always get asked the same questions by the same survey company each time.

Have you make yourself available to be randomly surveyed?

"We need someone who agrees with X." Input data, up comes Jim Hodge.

The fact that you are on a list of people prepared to answer questions, means that the surveys you respond to belong in the bin. They are utterly meaningless.

pjohnson · 15-10-2020 10:48PM

FintanMcluskey wrote: »

Let me get this straight, two 16 year old girls walk up behind you to join a queue, you move behind them, and wonder why they look worried?

Here we go
:rolleyes:

Stheno · 15-10-2020 10:48PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Apparently the BAM communities got hit very hard in the UK.

Yep there was a report at one stage that BAME people were 25% of NHS staff but something like 60% of NHS staff who died of COVID were BAME

lukas8888 · 15-10-2020 10:48PM

Constantly listening to TV/Radio interviews with GP'S all speaking as if their covid experts on the coalface.My experience is that if you have symptoms you call they make appointment get result back and charge the taxpayer 30 euros.Any of the Doctor practices in my area are like fort knox,very difficult to access for routine consultations etc.Yet they are paraded around Media as if they are front line ICU.

igCorcaigh · 15-10-2020 10:49PM

spookwoman wrote: »

HSE Operations report out early tonight

Cork with zero ICU beds available in both CUH and Mercy.

CUH has one covid patient in ICU.
I don't know about Mercy.

Spookwoman, do you know how ICU capacity in CUH can be reached even with only one covid patient? Is breaching capacity a normal thing even in non covid times?

Queried · 15-10-2020 10:51PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

Terrible to hear such a lax attitude. In my kids school if a kid is sick they bring them to an isolation room and they have a thermometer to check temps there and other basic first aid equipment.

I may have misunderstood your first comment. I thought you meant temperature checks upon arrival to school. When such an event, like the one I mentioned, has occurred, I reported it and said child was removed from classroom and the room was deep cleaned etc. Temperature check is done when a child reports Covid symptoms and a call is made to parents. Still frustrating that a parent would send a child to school who has complained of having symptoms before being brought in, but like in any situation there's always going to be people who are reckless. Grateful for the majority of those who are very cautious when it comes to their children not being well and take care to contact the school to explain why their kids aren't in. Does a lot to ease my mind when parents take the time to contact the school to say that their child is out because they're awaiting a test, are a close contact, etc.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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