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Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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  • #2522
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    Queried wrote: »
    Speaking as a teacher unfortunately there is no temperature checking happening in my school or any school that my friends work in. Have had children come in several times already feeling sick and telling me that they had told their parents that they felt unwell before school and were told to see how they feel throughout the day. The majority of parents are very cautious but it's not always the case.

    Terrible to hear such a lax attitude. In my kids school if a kid is sick they bring them to an isolation room and they have a thermometer to check temps there and other basic first aid equipment.


  • #2523
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Inquitus wrote: »
    What about if your kids give you covid? are you not visiting your parents at the moment either?

    I’m not worried about getting it, or no more worried about it than most other disease.
    Not seeing parents for a little while since numbers stated increasing in the County.


  • #2524
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Deleted User wrote: »
    More kids than ever are being tested, the contact tracing in schools is identifying a lower % of cases than elsewhere, and even if that tracing is not casting the net wide enough, it is getting the most at risk. No doubt there will be alternative facts

    Give it time.


  • #2525
    rob316
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,733 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    appledrop wrote: »
    Yes + restaurants have been closed now for 4 weeks in Dublin + wet pubs never opened.

    Nobody or nothing left to blame in Dublin now hmmmm I wonder whats causing it???????

    They've hitched there trailer to keeping the schools open at all costs. Retail will be killed off next before they realise they are pissing against a wall. Close schools or let it rip.


  • #2526
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    I don't watch TV at all especially RTE, but was the correspondent resident in Belfast I wonder? We have enough problems down here without becoming obsessed with them up there either. Give us a fkn break please RTE. Concentrate on our own country that pays the license fee FGS.

    It's not that simple unfortunately. Unless we close the border whatever is happening in the North is very relevant to what happens here.


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  • #2527
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    feelings wrote: »
    Thanks for that.

    So we hit a record of 160 in ICU due to COVID at the peak in April with positive cases just over 1,000 cases per day.
    Today we currently have 29 in ICU (a decrease in the last few days) with numbers now higher than the peak positive rate per day in April.

    Am I reading the last operational report correctly?
    Yes. It is thought likely that we had thousands of more cases in April that were not diagnosed as testing capacity was limited so it looks like a lower percentage are now being admitted to ICUs but those percentages probably have not changed much but it is just that now we are diagnosing more of the mild and asymptomatic cases than we were during the previous surge.

    Also ‘helping’ that majority of cases are under 45 but concern is that as it leaks into older age groups, a higher percentage of those will need admission and get more critically ill.


  • #2528
    Qiaonasen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Qiaonasen


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    It's not that simple unfortunately. Unless we close the border whatever is happening in the North is very relevant to what happens here.

    For better or worse you are right. Northern Ireland has a huge impact on what happens in the Republic be it Corona or Brexit.


  • #2529
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/IrishTimes/status/1316813476401049600

    The poor postmen. Everyone knows the postman always rings twice.


  • #2530
    Qiaonasen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 220 ✭✭Qiaonasen


    majcos wrote: »
    Yes. It is thought likely that we had thousands of more cases in April that were not diagnosed as testing capacity was limited so it looks like a lower percentage are now being admitted to ICUs but those percentages probably have not changed much but it is just that now we are diagnosing more of the mild and asymptomatic cases than we were during the previous surge.

    Also ‘helping’ that majority of cases are under 45 but concern that as it leaks into older age groups, a higher percentage of those will need admission and get more critically ill.

    Also don't forget. Exponential Growth can occur and that could shoot way past capacity in a number of days if we get the balance wrong.


  • #2531
    mloc123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Monaghan, Donegal, Cavan and Meath must have a much higher number of schools and school children compared to every other county.... They are really driving growth at a much higher level than any other counties.... :)


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  • #2532
    BringBackMick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,100 ✭✭✭BringBackMick


    mloc123 wrote: »
    Monaghan, Donegal, Cavan and Meath must have a much higher number of schools and school children compared to every other county.... They are really driving growth at a much higher level than any other counties.... :)

    Wow I see what you did there


  • #2533
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 502 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Classy from RTE, focus on an exceptional circumstance and tarnish an entire sector. The propaganda wing of the government is functioning well. Just don't mention Covid clusters in schools, that would be inconvenient.

    Exceptional circumstance that there was a crowd gathered outside a pub in Belfast? I think not. The coffee shops etc., up north were packed to the gills on Wednesday with lockdown looming.


  • #2534
    Kh1993
    Closed Accounts Posts: 443 ✭✭Kh1993


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    Terrible to hear such a lax attitude. In my kids school if a kid is sick they bring them to an isolation room and they have a thermometer to check temps there and other basic first aid equipment.


    We temperature check every day too. Now what good that does, who knows. I know a HIQA report said it advised against temp checks however


  • #2535
    Non solum non ambulabit
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,089 ✭✭✭Non solum non ambulabit


    The foaming at the mouth re schools is reaching hysterical levels.

    Trumpian view where a person's feelings are enough .... data means nothing.


  • #2536
    Messi19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Messi19


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    School children are being swabbed at a higher rate than other age groups. There is no hiding for them as the schools are monitoring temps, sniffles etc. No other age groups are overseen in such a manner.

    You might think it's obvious but the data is not on your side.


    From Sage which are basically the UK NPHET, Wanna get that R rate down??? Then close the schools


  • #2537
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    rob316 wrote: »
    The extended over cautious approach in the last wave has backfired spectacularly and led to public covid fatigue. We had single figure infections and our pubs were still closed, our beauty industry took a ridiculous amount of time to open, there was no consideration given to the impact to young healthy people who aren't willing to lose anymore time of their lives.

    Well spotted. That was the point when they lost the people.


  • #2538
    majcos
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 596 ✭✭✭majcos


    niallo27 wrote: »
    Yes and we have the capacity of up to 360 possibly 400 if we use the private hospitals.
    Yes. There is surge capacity within and outside the HSE but it comes with other sacrifices. The longer that goes on, the greater the knock on effects including excess mortality from other diseases.


  • #2539
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    The foaming at the mouth re schools is reaching hysterical levels.

    Trumpian view where a person's feelings are enough .... data means nothing.

    Wheres the foam?


  • #2540
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,296 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    appledrop wrote: »
    Dr. Colm Henry, Chief Clinical Officer for HSE has today stated that 80% of positive Covid cases at present have mild symptoms or are asymptomatic.

    This is especially the case with young people.

    FFS lads do you think the penny might finally drop that the schools are spreading this???????

    Imagine if they actually did random testing in schools like Nursing Homes or Meat Factories what numbers would be like???

    But not only are they not doing this they are actually dangerously ignoring genuine close contacts in schools + brushing it under the carpet.

    Serial testing is ongoing in meat factories and nursing homes to be fair


  • #2541
    lawrencesummers
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,867 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    The foaming at the mouth re schools is reaching hysterical levels.

    Trumpian view where a person's feelings are enough .... data means nothing.

    The data means everything.
    But the data is incomplete and inaccurate.

    Just because the numbers don’t prove the obvious doesn’t mean the obvious isn’t correct.


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  • #2542
    Icyseanfitz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,539 ✭✭✭Icyseanfitz


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    As a parent I’ve no issue with schools being open.
    As a parent I’ve no issue with the kids getting Covid.

    As a child of elderly parents I don’t want my kids to see their grandparents currently.

    And what about all the adult staff in schools? Do their lives and the lives of their families matter? Your own adult life? The lives of the other childrens families? There's also zero garuntee that your child won't be on the few to get covid bad.


  • #2543
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,152 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    Prime time love the hysteria.


  • #2544
    caveat emptor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,134 ✭✭✭caveat emptor


    If I remember schools staying open is only safe if community transmission is low. How to solve that problem? Don’t publish community transmission data.


  • #2545
    Funsterdelux
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,376 ✭✭✭Funsterdelux


    lawrencesummers wrote: »
    The data means everything.
    But the data is incomplete and inaccurate.

    Just because the numbers don’t prove the obvious doesn’t mean the obvious isn’t correct.

    Evidence of absence is not absence of evidence no

    Absinthe makes the heart grow founder


  • #2546
    Messi19
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 750 ✭✭✭Messi19


    Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »
    Terrible to hear such a lax attitude. In my kids school if a kid is sick they bring them to an isolation room and they have a thermometer to check temps there and other basic first aid equipment.

    And if said kid just happened to be covid positive then how many of the class would also be tested?


  • #2547
    AlphaDelta1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 477 ✭✭AlphaDelta1


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Prime time love the hysteria.

    Why watch it so.


  • #2548
    bennyl10
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,591 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    If anyone talks about the actual numbers, as predictions by the experts, this thread would call it ‘hysteria’

    We need to actually look at what the health experts are saying, not what we’d like to happen


  • #2549
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,152 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    AlphaDelta1 wrote: »
    Why watch it so.

    I love the hysteria.


  • #2550
    Jeff2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,534 ✭✭✭Jeff2


    If they close off license earlier then the boarder counties well just go north and things get worse.


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  • #2551
    polesheep
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,950 ✭✭✭polesheep


    Jim_Hodge wrote: »
    I've done some of the surveys. The questions were very much more specific than that.

    Strange that you have done 'some' of the surveys. If they were being carried out properly, the chances of you doing even one would be remote. I don't believe in the accuracy of surveys or TAM ratings.

    Unless you meant 'carried out', in which case I took you up wrong.


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