Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

spookwoman · 15-10-2020 07:09PM

Hospital details from hse operation report last night if anyone interested

MerlinSouthDub · 15-10-2020 07:10PM

Lots of commentary about schools on this thread, so I thought I'd post this again (previously posted on the schools thread).

It's a twitter thread about infection rates by age, using ONS data in the UK (random population sample, unbiased by testing rates/symptoms etc).

It shows how the infection rate in primary school children is increasing at a much slower rate than overall. At secondary school, the picture isn't as good, but still much better than young adults (where infection rates have gone through the roof). It's UK data, but their approach is similar to ours. It's very clear what is driving infection rates and it's definitely not schoolchildren. Worth a read.

https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1316093455395958787

Benimar · 15-10-2020 07:12PM

Positive swabs the last 3 days - 3,093
Announced positives the last 3 days - 3,111

'Backlog' of 18 cleared.

rob316 · 15-10-2020 07:12PM

screamer wrote: »

Yeh, until it rips into someone you know or love.... see how quick you’d be on every social media platform then denouncing the strategy and the government...... nimbyism is not going to protect us from covid19

So they'll close the rest of the businesses next week, then 2 weeks later the numbers still aren't coming down as we know the risk is negligible. Where do we go to then? They seem determined to leave schools open whatever happens.
Meanwhile we'll have spent more billions on employment and business supports.

It's already ripping but deaths are low.

Chicke · 15-10-2020 07:12PM

Very deflated Nepht team tonight I think. Nobody is listening including the government

BringBackMick · 15-10-2020 07:12PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Have you looked at any of the data at all? Young adults (19-24) are where we are seeing the biggest increase in infection rates, by far.
Philip Nolan specifically referenced this today.

Im sorry i see 15-24 group in all data surging and i fear school children arent been swabbed enough as deemed untouchable

It is blindlingly obvious what has happened, the dog on the street knows it

owlbethere · 15-10-2020 07:13PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Tony: "The government's not going to wipe your nose"

Thought he was about to say something else :eek:

He's flustered today.

"the government is not going to wipe your arse".

I thought he was going to finish his line with arse.

I love Tony. They are drilling out the message that this is in the hands of the public and the actions we do.

Non solum non ambulabit · 15-10-2020 07:13PM

MerlinSouthDub wrote: »

Lots of commentary about schools on this thread, so I thought I'd post this again (previously posted on the schools thread).

It's a twitter thread about infection rates by age, using ONS data in the UK (random population sample, unbiased by testing rates/symptoms etc).

It shows how the infection rate in primary school children is increasing at a much slower rate than overall. At secondary school, the picture isn't as good, but still much better than young adults (where infection rates have gone through the roof). It's UK data, but their approach is similar to ours. It's very clear what is driving infection rates and it's definitely not schoolchildren. Worth a read.

https://twitter.com/apsmunro/status/1316093455395958787

Great post backed by data. Expect the usual blowback by the school obsessives.

ACitizenErased · 15-10-2020 07:13PM

owlbethere wrote: »

"the government is not going to wipe your arse".

I thought he was going to finish his line with arse.

I love Tony. They are drilling out the message that this is in the hands of the public and the actions we do.

Bit of a weird obsession

screamer · 15-10-2020 07:15PM

owlbethere wrote: »

"the government is not going to wipe your arse".

I thought he was going to finish his line with arse.

I love Tony. They are drilling out the message that this is in the hands of the public and the actions we do.

At least he has the guts to call it as it is, not like the ditherer and his minions

MerlinSouthDub · 15-10-2020 07:15PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Im sorry i see 15-24 group in all data surging and i fear school children arent been swabbed enough as deemed untouchable

It is blindlingly obvious what has happened, the dog on the street knows it

This is a random sample - the level of swabbing has no impact. Please read the thread, and try to learn rather than making up theories with zero data. Thank you.

niallo27 · 15-10-2020 07:15PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Tony: "The government's not going to wipe your nose"

Thought he was about to say something else :eek:

He's flustered today.

He has lost control, his ego is too big now. He is not liking people not following his orders. As they would say in football, he has lost the dressing room.

caveat emptor · 15-10-2020 07:15PM

Dr Henry "Critical care death rate was 21% about Half of other countries"

I'd like to see the average age of those in ICUs. Maybe we are twice as good as every other country.

Cluedo Monopoly · 15-10-2020 07:16PM

I knew nobody with a positive Covid test on October 1.
Now I know 5 people. Galway was doing so well but is fast becoming a problem county.

Non solum non ambulabit · 15-10-2020 07:16PM

BringBackMick wrote: »

Im sorry i see 15-24 group in all data surging and i fear school children arent been swabbed enough as deemed untouchable

It is blindlingly obvious what has happened, the dog on the street knows it

School children are being swabbed at a higher rate than other age groups. There is no hiding for them as the schools are monitoring temps, sniffles etc. No other age groups are overseen in such a manner.

You might think it's obvious but the data is not on your side.

is_that_so · 15-10-2020 07:16PM

screamer wrote: »

Yeh, until it rips into someone you know or love.... see how quick you’d be on every social media platform then denouncing the strategy and the government...... nimbyism is not going to protect us from covid19

It's personal behaviour that people should not doing at this point. Even if all shops shut tomorrow such continued behaviour would still drive cases higher.

screamer · 15-10-2020 07:16PM

niallo27 wrote: »

He has lost control, his ego is too big now. He is not liking people not following his orders. As they would say in football, he has lost the dressing room.

Problem is, he’s expected to be team doctor and physio too, a stretch too far for him and his staff, and through no fault of their own.

tjdaly · 15-10-2020 07:17PM

quartz1 wrote: »

Well I read the ad and then I googled how to cancel my Irish Times subscription and sent them the required email to cancelmysubscription .

Somebody paying for ads containing rubbish have a deeper agenda that most likely not benefiting ordinary people in society.

Which of the bullet points did you disagree with? Or was it the graph?

I find when my emotions take over and I become angry or flustered from reading new information or hearing other people's perspectives the best course of action is to try and keep calm and examine the source of where that's coming from. Seems to have touched a nerve anyway.

CalamariFritti · 15-10-2020 07:17PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

Stop this nonsense.

We've unlimited borrowing ability at a tiny rate from a bank that can just print money from nothing.

And thats not going to have any consequences at all....

Kermit.de.frog · 15-10-2020 07:18PM

EU governments starting to do there own thing again, the borders will be going back in sooner rather than later I suspect.

Germany’s foreign ministry has warned against non-essential travel to France, the Netherlands, Malta and Slovakia from Saturday due to high coronavirus infection rates.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/oct/15/coronavirus-live-news-paris-introduces-curfew-barron-trump-recovers-from-covid

Denny61 · 15-10-2020 07:18PM

8 vaccines by nxt summer..says Dr luke o neill ....I hold my breath

is_that_so · 15-10-2020 07:18PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

Dr Henry "Critical care death rate was 21% about Half of other countries"

I'd like to see the average age of those in ICUs. Maybe we are twice as good as every other country.

We never got to the overwhelmed stage, at which point the death rate can shoot up.

Ohmeha · 15-10-2020 07:19PM

Dublin and rest of ROI numbers since the introduction of Level 3 in Dublin

Level 3 did slow it down in Dublin but it looks that the R Level could not sustain the needed 1.0 and is likely at 1.1 to 1.2 range so now we are beginning to see it show another increasing growth in new cases. Rest of ROI showing no evidence yet of any slowdown in Level 3.

Day Month Date Dublin Weekly 7 Day 7 Day % 14 Day 14 Day % Non-Dub Weekly 7 Day 7 Day % 14 Day 14 Day %
Saturday September 19th 166 1,019 145.57 54.39% 119.93 115.26% 108 822 117.43 53.07% 97.07 56.03%
Sunday September 20th 241 1,104 157.71 47.59% 132.29 128.92% 155 878 125.43 55.12% 103.14 57.13%
Monday September 21st 76 1,072 153.14 34.00% 133.71 136.36% 112 890 127.14 43.55% 107.86 69.47%
Tuesday September 22nd 174 1,028 146.86 22.97% 133.14 94.78% 160 911 130.14 43.69% 110.36 64.19%
Wednesday September 23rd 103 995 142.14 8.03% 136.86 109.40% 131 924 132.00 28.51% 117.36 81.95%
Thursday September 24th 167 1,043 149.00 11.79% 141.14 100.00% 157 960 137.14 27.83% 122.21 83.39%
Friday September 25th 152 1,079 154.14 16.27% 143.36 89.88% 174 997 142.43 24.94% 128.21 89.35%
Saturday September 26th 104 1,017 145.29 -0.20% 145.43 89.75% 144 1,033 147.57 25.67% 132.50 95.47%
Sunday September 27th 212 988 141.14 -10.51% 149.43 73.61% 218 1,096 156.57 24.83% 141.00 91.65%
Monday September 28th 209 1,121 160.14 4.57% 156.64 70.26% 181 1,165 166.43 30.90% 146.79 86.48%
Tuesday September 29th 154 1,101 157.29 7.10% 152.07 51.75% 209 1,214 173.43 33.26% 151.79 88.55%
Wednesday September 30th 189 1,187 169.57 19.30% 155.86 46.84% 240 1,323 189.00 43.18% 160.50 85.86%
Thursday October 1st 170 1,190 170.00 14.09% 159.50 43.69% 272 1,438 205.43 49.79% 171.29 86.47%
Friday October 2nd 198 1,236 176.57 14.55% 165.36 40.64% 272 1,536 219.43 54.06% 180.93 87.77%
Saturday October 3rd 224 1,356 193.71 33.33% 169.50 41.33% 389 1,781 254.43 72.41% 201.00 107.06%
Sunday October 4th 100 1,244 177.71 25.91% 159.43 20.52% 264 1,827 261.00 66.70% 208.79 102.42%
Monday October 5th 134 1,169 167.00 4.28% 163.57 22.33% 384 2,030 290.00 74.25% 228.21 111.59%
Tuesday October 6th 111 1,126 160.86 2.27% 159.07 19.47% 321 2,142 306.00 76.44% 239.71 117.22%
Wednesday October 7th 218 1,155 165.00 -2.70% 167.29 22.23% 393 2,295 327.86 73.47% 258.43 120.21%
Thursday October 8th 91 1,076 153.71 -9.58% 161.86 14.68% 415 2,438 348.29 69.54% 276.86 126.53%
Friday October 9th 123 1,001 143.00 -19.01% 159.79 11.46% 494 2,660 380.00 73.18% 299.71 133.76%
Saturday October 10th 241 1,018 145.43 -24.93% 169.57 16.60% 771 3,042 434.57 70.80% 344.50 160.00%
Sunday October 11th 226 1,144 163.43 -8.04% 170.57 14.15% 588 3,366 480.86 84.24% 370.93 163.07%
Monday October 12th 254 1,264 180.57 8.13% 173.79 10.94% 571 3,553 507.57 75.02% 398.79 171.68%
Tuesday October 13th 190 1,343 191.86 19.27% 176.36 15.97% 621 3,853 550.43 79.88% 428.21 182.12%
Wednesday October 14th 246 1,371 195.86 18.70% 180.43 15.77% 849 4,309 615.57 87.76% 471.71 193.90%
Thursday October 15th 288 1,568 224.00 45.72% 188.86 18.41% 917 4,811 687.29 97.33% 517.79 202.29%

froog · 15-10-2020 07:19PM

CalamariFritti wrote: »

And thats not going to have any consequences at all....

Worse than letting thousands of people die?

ACitizenErased · 15-10-2020 07:19PM

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

I knew nobody with a positive Covid test on October 1.
Now I know 5 people. Galway was doing so well but is fast becoming a problem county.

I knew maybe 2-3 people all along, I now know 7 in the last 3 days.
1 is one of my very good friends, who has barely left the house and believes they caught it in a chipper.
It appears one town in particular in Cork (starts with c and ends with -aline) is particularly problemsome atm.

Ohmeha · 15-10-2020 07:20PM

Dublin LEA 14 Day Numbers between September 29 to October 12th. Socio-economic trend continues

LEA Date Range Cases Increase LEA per 100k ROI per 100k Population
BALLYFERMOT-DRIMNAGH LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 143 26.55% 310.4 177.2 46,068
ARTANE-WHITEHALL LEA-6, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 137 55.68% 267.8 177.2 51,156
BALLYMUN-FINGLAS LEA-6, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 145 49.48% 263.6 177.2 55,010
CABRA-GLASNEVIN LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 145 49.48% 263.6 177.2 58,652
ONGAR LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 92 15.00% 256.7 177.2 35,384
KIMMAGE-RATHMINES LEA-6, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 139 -18.71% 248.8 177.2 55,861
CLONDALKIN LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 113 29.89% 242.9 177.2 46,520
LUCAN LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 77 22.22% 230.4 177.2 33,421
BLANCHARDSTOWN-MULHUDDART LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 80 31.15% 226.6 177.2 35,307
NORTH INNER CITY LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 136 -3.55% 213.8 177.2 63,612
TALLAGHT SOUTH LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 72 28.57% 203.0 177.2 35,465
SWORDS LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 101 -3.81% 196.6 177.2 51,370
PALMERSTOWN-FONTHILL LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 74 54.17% 194.6 177.2 38,035
FIRHOUSE-BOHERNABREENA LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 63 85.29% 184.2 177.2 34,202
SOUTH WEST INNER CITY LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 78 21.88% 184.2 177.2 42,344
HOWTH-MALAHIDE LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 93 8.14% 165.7 177.2 56,139
CASTLEKNOCK LEA-6, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 75 15.38% 162.6 177.2 46,126
DONAGHMEDE LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 64 -7.25% 153.9 177.2 41,593
SOUTH EAST INNER CITY LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 59 -14.49% 145.3 177.2 40,603
TALLAGHT CENTRAL LEA-6, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 61 5.17% 141.2 177.2 43,215
RATHFARNHAM-TEMPLEOGUE LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 64 36.17% 133.6 177.2 47,909
PEMBROKE LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 53 43.24% 116.6 177.2 45,473
DUNDRUM LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 43 -8.51% 114.8 177.2 37,452
CLONTARF LEA-6, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 58 -20.55% 107.0 177.2 54,182
KILLINEY-SHANKILL LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 43 -2.27% 103.3 177.2 38,082
DÚN LAOGHAIRE LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 43 -17.31% 103.3 177.2 41,627
BALBRIGGAN LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 35 25.00% 95.7 177.2 36,570
GLENCULLEN-SANDYFORD LEA-7, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 35 -20.45% 95.6 177.2 36,622
STILLORGAN LEA-6, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 26 -29.73% 85.2 177.2 30,508
RUSH-LUSK LEA-5, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 28 -28.21% 80.8 177.2 34,674
BLACKROCK LEA-6, DUBLIN 29/09/20 to 12/10/20 21 -19.23% 62.3 177.2 33,727

landofthetree · 15-10-2020 07:20PM

A Dutch company has developed a breathalyser test which will almost instantly exclude people who do not carry the coronavirus.

The device which can detect particles in people’s breath, was tested on 1,800 people in an Amsterdam testing facility. They then had the more time consuming PCR test. Investigations showed that some 1,350 people could have been sent home immediately had they taken only the breathalyser test. The device was able to exclude coronavirus in three quarters of the participants but was inconclusive in the remaining quarter.

Read more at DutchNews.nl:
https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/10/fast-covid-test-development-speeds-up-latest-gives-result-in-less-than-a-minute/

circadian · 15-10-2020 07:20PM

niallo27 wrote: »

He has lost control, his ego is too big now. He is not liking people not following his orders. As they would say in football, he has lost the dressing room.

His ego? For reals? The man is trying to get people to listen since the government aren't acting on the advice. Like many people he's frustrated because he's screaming into the void at this point.

Ego. Jesus.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 15-10-2020 07:22PM

Ohmeha wrote: »

Dublin and rest of ROI numbers since the introduction of Level 3 in Dublin

Level 3 did slow it down in Dublin but it looks that the R Level could not sustain the needed 1.0 and is likely at 1.1 to 1.2 range so now we are beginning to see it show another increasing growth in new cases. Rest of ROI showing no evidence yet of any slowdown in Level 3.

I suspect the dailly commute into Dublin brought it back up in Dublin (as case numbers rise outside Dublin).

By the way thanks for doing this Dublin chart over the last weeks. Its something I've appreciated.

It's interesting to see how Dublin has gone from over 50% of the national numbers to around 25%.

is_that_so · 15-10-2020 07:25PM

circadian wrote: »

His ego? For reals? The man is trying to get people to listen since the government aren't acting on the advice. Like many people he's frustrated because he's screaming into the void at this point.

Ego. Jesus.

The government made a different call by considering a lot of other things. We could still end up in the same place. The frustration here is with how people are still behaving.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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