Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

eagle eye wrote: »

That's frightening and we had the thick, stupid ministet for education saying today that schools are going great.

I could genuinely never understand why they keep coming out with this blanket assertion that "schools are safe" and "schools are not spreading it". Like how the fúck do they know that? If kids are asymptomatic sure they could easily be bringing it in and home etc. Low incidence rates probably because asymptomatic people don't get tested? Perhaps I am missing something but it just seems like a stupid, baseless, bald assertion.

bb1234567 wrote: »

To an almost suspicious extent. In South Korea for example, it's not hard to see how they've dealt with it so well, but in Japan the same rigour does not seem to have been employed, seems a bit laissez faire really. Don't understand how spread of covid could have been so limited in massive cities like Tokyo

They haven't done much testing, but I would say its more targeted. They probably just advise contacts to isolate and the Japs are the sort of people that just comply.

lostintipp wrote: »

When my wife tested positive they then went and tested me and our pesky asymptomatic kids......the rest of us were negative. So perhaps her going to that communion party wasn't such a great idea after all.

I am not saying for one minute children are not catching it and if they do they must be capable of spreading it but I think as adults we must look closer to home for the causes of a lot of the spread i.e. Gaa, communion/confirmation parties, general ordinary parties and just all the others who just can't behave.

Agree. I'm not blaming kids for a second by the way! But for every person who goes to a GAA party or whatever, they might be then coming home and passing that on to their kids, who then bring it into the school.

I'm back at work in February from mat leave, and we've decided against a crèche not because we don't want her mixing with other babies and children (on the contrary I worry about how her social skills will develop) but because we know that the parents of babies and children in her crèche might not necessarily have behaved as well as they should have at the weekend And whereas we would be ok (and hopefully our child too), there's a nanna and grandad next door that we need to protect.

bb1234567 wrote: »

To an almost suspicious extent. In South Korea for example, it's not hard to see how they've dealt with it so well, but in Japan the same rigour does not seem to have been employed, seems a bit laissez faire really. Don't understand how spread of covid could have been so limited in massive cities like Tokyo

They controlled the clusters and the country isn't run by inept clueless idiots who have a different idea every week.

There is no magic potion in these countries who have tackled it well, they just stuck to plan set out from the beginning and not made it up as they went along.

Even when cases began to spike a few months ago they stuck to the plan and even began adding fans to stadiums for sports while cases where rising.

Bars didn't shut, restaurants didn't shut, schools didn't shut, bar what was over a national holiday anyway and life is pretty much as normal.

bmcc10 wrote: »

They controlled the clusters and the country isn't run by inept clueless idiots who have a different idea every week.

There is no magic potion in these countries who have tackled it well, they just stuck to plan set out from the beginning and not made it up as they went along.

Even when cases began to spike a few months ago they stuck to the plan and even began adding fans to stadiums for sports while cases where rising.

Bars didn't shut, restaurants didn't shut, schools didn't shut, bar what was over a national holiday anyway and life is pretty much as normal.

14 day Quarantine like NZ and Oz, although it’s not infallible it reduces the battle fronts so you can deal with outbreaks.

They also advised people who were sick to isolate in hotels so they don’t spread to families.

Seems to work

I'd love to see the results of mandatory testing of all students in a decent sized school. I reckon it would be scary.

AlphaDelta1 wrote: »

I wonder how much longer the government can hide what's going on in schools from people? Maybe they'll wait until every small business in the country is gone to the wall before being honest.

First mention I've heard on the radio news today, they mentioned that the number of schools with cases has doubled from last week to this, 25 - 50. I find that very hard to believe.

prunudo wrote: »

First mention I've heard on the radio news today, they mentioned that the number of schools with cases has doubled from last week to this, 25 - 50. I find that very hard to believe.

Whys that?

Funsterdelux wrote: »

Watched that Octopus My Teacher docu lastnight, now theres an intelligent animal.managed to outsmart a shark and get on its back.

When are we going to get on this virus's back?

Unfortunately this virus travels with us, in us. So, it’s gonn be hard to get rid of it whilst we give it opportunity to spread. We won’t get it on its back till we get our own behaviour under control being honest. That is a combination of responsibility, civic mindedness and enforcement, unfortunately they are the only weapons we have against this virus at the moment.

Wolf359f wrote: »

Think your wasting your time in fairness.
Makes me wonder all these large increases in Meath, Cavan and Monaghan, do they have more schoolchildren/schools than the likes of Dublin.
If so, that would explain case numbers increasing and good proof of schools driving cases.

While I don’t think schools are a driving force in rising transmission rates and are not at a stage where they need to close they are certainly a factor in rising transmission rates. It is not possible to have a million plus adults and students on the move daily, spending over 5 hours a day in poorly ventilated cramped rooms without a subsequent impact on transmission. Clusters are happening in schools and in some instances large clusters with subsequent school closures. Contact tracing decisions are very hit and miss in their application of the close contact definition which in of itself is less than that in the wider community.
At the moment we are struggling to get subs and it’s only October - I’ve heard the view that we won’t get the flu that bad this year due to precautions taken re SD hand washing etc being bandied about in relation to schools yet we’ve already had two viral cough cold like illness go around our school since September. Schools by their nature facilitate the spread of illness why posters insist that covid is different due to control measures which are significantly less than those expected in the community is mind boggling.

mean gene wrote: »

How's the tracing app going ??

In the bin with all the other money we wasted.

Unfit for purpose but we might be able to find an extra couple of hundred thousand for the developers of said app to actually make it work as described originally

Oh sorry sounds very like another recent story ala leaving cert farce

lostintipp wrote: »

Yes I agree totally valid points.

There were 5 adults that tested positive from the communion that we went to and despite the place being thronged with kids bouncing and wrestling on the bouncy castle none of them picked it up.

I think blaming the schools is just a little too convenient and an good way to have a cheap shot at the government.

The schools need to be kept open for as long as they possibly can as we cannot just abandon education, we can however probably do without the County finals and having a carry on down the pub.

People also forget that we tried closing the schools before; in March; and it made no difference. It may even have made things worse.

Schools have to be the last thing to close. If there's no general stay at home order, then kids have to go somewhere. And that somewhere is usually Granny and grandad's house.

Originally when was the current level 3 for Dublin due to expire?

RebelButtMunch wrote: »

Originally when was the current level 3 for Dublin due to expire?

Today I think.