Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

Jeff2 · 14-10-2020 10:29PM

People on TV keep using this stupid phase of
"This virus loved......"
It's like they are talking to children.

14-10-2020 10:30PM

votecounts wrote: »

Probably the wrong thread, but whoever decided to outsource the contract tracers
with zero hour contracts shold be sacked, I would have thought they would have been directly employed by the HSE, rant over

They actually trained a load of civil servants in March that have never been called up to do it. Most just continuing in non essential roles.

Plumbthedepths · 14-10-2020 10:31PM

JJayoo wrote: »

There are hundreds of 'escorts' advertising their services on an Irish website, travelling all over the country, banging away. Good luck contact tracing back to them.

Surely a site such as this should be shut down, like ridiculous that it exists in first place, but now when asking people to stop travelling and meeting, you have hundreds , maybe 1000+ superspreaders whoring around the country.

Consenting adults and all that but it's bullsh1t
Site is t exactly hard to find just Google escort and it will probably be the first page that pops up

You know this how? Market research?

caveat emptor · 14-10-2020 10:32PM

castletownman wrote: »

I am out of self-isolation from a positive test on Saturday. My GF lives 25 mins away with her parents, and I normally stay there 4 nights a week anyway (apart from the prior lockdown). We had planned to have moved into a converted flat at home by now, but there have been multiple delays along the way, and it probably won't be until the new year now. She and her family tested negative, as did my parents (second test pending), and I have literally not visited any other household for ages now aside from my own and hers.

Judge me all ye want, I'm still visiting her. I can guarantee I won't be putting anyone in jeopardy in doing so, but her mental health in particular may be affected if I don't. If I am stopped, I'll tell them I'm on the way to school sure.

Will be like a soldier returning home after WW2

TonyMaloney · 14-10-2020 10:33PM

Strict household restrictions have done **** all in slowing the virus in Glasgow and Clyde.
They've had the same restrictions in place for over five weeks, and their cases have doubled many times over.

These measures are popular with governments because they have little obvious economic impact.
They don't seem to ****ing work though unfortunately.

Sawduck · 14-10-2020 10:34PM

So we are in level 3.68 or something, either put it in level 4 or leave it as it is, it's getting ridiculous now

Happydays2020 · 14-10-2020 10:35PM

castletownman wrote: »

I am out of self-isolation from a positive test on Saturday. My GF lives 25 mins away with her parents, and I normally stay there 4 nights a week anyway (apart from the prior lockdown). We had planned to have moved into a converted flat at home by now, but there have been multiple delays along the way, and it probably won't be until the new year now. She and her family tested negative, as did my parents (second test pending), and I have literally not visited any other household for ages now aside from my own and hers.

Judge me all ye want, I'm still visiting her. I can guarantee I won't be putting anyone in jeopardy in doing so, but her mental health in particular may be affected if I don't. If I am stopped, I'll tell them I'm on the way to school sure.

Will be like a soldier returning home after WW2

You may be ok with the medical advice https://www2.hse.ie/conditions/coronavirus/managing-coronavirus-at-home/self-isolation.html

Jim_Hodge · 14-10-2020 10:35PM

votecounts wrote: »

Probably the wrong thread, but whoever decided to outsource the contract tracers
with zero hour contracts shold be sacked, I would have thought they would have been directly employed by the HSE, rant over

They didn't. It was an error, since corrected, in the letter issued.

owlbethere · 14-10-2020 10:35PM

castletownman wrote: »

I am out of self-isolation from a positive test on Saturday. My GF lives 25 mins away with her parents, and I normally stay there 4 nights a week anyway (apart from the prior lockdown). We had planned to have moved into a converted flat at home by now, but there have been multiple delays along the way, and it probably won't be until the new year now. She and her family tested negative, as did my parents (second test pending), and I have literally not visited any other household for ages now aside from my own and hers.

Judge me all ye want, I'm still visiting her. I can guarantee I won't be putting anyone in jeopardy in doing so, but her mental health in particular may be affected if I don't. If I am stopped, I'll tell them I'm on the way to school sure.

Will be like a soldier returning home after WW2

At least wait out the full 10 or 14 days isolation period. You got a positive test on Saturday last. That's not long ago. What if you are still infectious? You love your girlfriend so much you would like to make her sick and risk the lifes of her parents.

speckle · 14-10-2020 10:35PM

Well that sucks, I am in a group with high risk people who all live alone, like many younger high risk people do nowadays. We have been uber cautious following the guidlines but after nearly 9months enough is enough, we only this week started visiting each other as it was starting to take a toil on some people, like the person who visited me this evening. I cant see us stopping or we will just shrivel up anyhow and might aswell be dead to hell with covid. And each of us know the risks it presents to us better than the government or Nephet. We have decided to meet up and play music for our mental health. Like for anyone to challenge that.

hotmail.com · 14-10-2020 10:35PM

Government need to give clear advice on what to do. They are not doing that.

Result: People are deciding to look after themselves.

Goldrickssan · 14-10-2020 10:35PM

Sawduck wrote: »

So we are in level 3.68 or something, either put it in level 4 or leave it as it is, it's getting ridiculous now

It's still level 3 based on the document- it's not that difficult to follow. There is wiggle room between levels.

Jim_Hodge · 14-10-2020 10:36PM

Sawduck wrote: »

So we are in level 3.68 or something, either put it in level 4 or leave it as it is, it's getting ridiculous now

The change in household visits is covered clearly in Level 3. But it's hipper to spout the old 3.67.

amadangomor · 14-10-2020 10:37PM

castletownman wrote: »

I am out of self-isolation from a positive test on Saturday. My GF lives 25 mins away with her parents, and I normally stay there 4 nights a week anyway (apart from the prior lockdown). We had planned to have moved into a converted flat at home by now, but there have been multiple delays along the way, and it probably won't be until the new year now. She and her family tested negative, as did my parents (second test pending), and I have literally not visited any other household for ages now aside from my own and hers.

Judge me all ye want, I'm still visiting her. I can guarantee I won't be putting anyone in jeopardy in doing so, but her mental health in particular may be affected if I don't. If I am stopped, I'll tell them I'm on the way to school sure.

Will be like a soldier returning home after WW2

Won't judge someone like yourself who has thought about it and will minimise the risk. As you say mental health is something to consider.

It's the people who do it and say fk everyone else that is annoying.

owlbethere · 14-10-2020 10:38PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Strict household restrictions have done **** all in slowing the virus in Glasgow and Clyde.
They've had the same restrictions in place for over five weeks, and their cases have doubled many times over.

These measures are popular with governments because they have little obvious economic impact.
They don't seem to ****ing work though unfortunately.

Are the home visiting guidelines enforced over there in Glasgow?

castletownman · 14-10-2020 10:38PM

owlbethere wrote: »

At least wait out the full 10 or 14 days isolation period. You got a positive test on Saturday last. That's not long ago. What if you are still infectious? You love your girlfriend so much you would like to make her sick and risk the lifes of her parents.

Believe me, I have followed the isolation guidelines to the letter of the law. Both the HSE official who confirmed my positive test, my own GP, my friend who is a GP and the contact tracer guy all told me I can leave my "cocoon" on Saturday.

Who am I to defy the experts.

billybonkers · 14-10-2020 10:38PM

Feels like this evening could is the last chance before level 4 for the country. Playing off the budget yesterday to support those out of work etc

One last chance to "get the numbers" down then BAM level 4 for all as soon as mid term starts

TonyMaloney · 14-10-2020 10:40PM

owlbethere wrote: »

Are the home visiting guidelines enforced over there in Glasgow?

Probably not. I imagine they're impossible to police and not very well respected.

I don't really know though

Akabusi · 14-10-2020 10:40PM

Wish they would have shut the schools in the three counties, if for no other reason to use as a test case for the rest of the country. These level 4 restrictions may at best stabilise the numbers but in all likelihood not do much with the schools remaining open.

hotmail.com · 14-10-2020 10:40PM

Are visors banned?

Icyseanfitz · 14-10-2020 10:41PM

billybonkers wrote: »

Feels like this evening could is the last chance before level 4 for the country. Playing off the budget yesterday to support those out of work etc

One last chance to "get the numbers" down then BAM level 4 for all as soon as mid term starts

What is actually different in level 4 compared to the level 3.75 we have?

SPDUB · 14-10-2020 10:42PM

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

They didn't. It was an error, since corrected, in the letter issued.

Seriously you don't believe that codswallop.

Error :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

hotmail.com · 14-10-2020 10:42PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

What is actually different in level 4 compared to the level 3.75 we have?

Retail shops close.

Eod100 · 14-10-2020 10:43PM

13 out of 28 hospitals don't have spare ICU beds currently. https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40064951.html?type=amp&__twitter_impression=true

owlbethere · 14-10-2020 10:44PM

TonyMaloney wrote: »

Probably not. I imagine they're impossible to police and not very well respected.

I don't really know though

I know in England they are a little bit more enforced. I heard from a people I know living there - if a neighbour sees visitors going to and from their neighbours, they snitch to the police. I don't know if Glasgow has followed the same way snitch ing on the neighbours.

BobbyMalone · 14-10-2020 10:45PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

It's still level 3 based on the document- it's not that difficult to follow. There is wiggle room between levels.

Did the advice not state (for level 3):

You can have a maximum of 6 visitors to your home from 1 other household only. This may be reduced further in line with public health advice for the area. You should not meet socially in other settings.

No visitors whatsoever is level 4.

Although looking at the gov.ie site, it seems this has been changed now to reflect the announcement :pac:

Loafing Oaf · 14-10-2020 10:45PM

Icyseanfitz wrote: »

What is actually different in level 4 compared to the level 3.75 we have?

We won't be able to get a haircut:P

Plumbthedepths · 14-10-2020 10:45PM

mcburns07 wrote: »

:pac: This is a new one to blame

Not really 'dirty little prostitutes' have already been mentioned several weeks ago although probably not in the same context.

14-10-2020 10:47PM

castletownman wrote: »

Believe me, I have followed the isolation guidelines to the letter of the law. Both the HSE official who confirmed my positive test, my own GP, my friend who is a GP and the contact tracer guy all told me I can leave my "cocoon" on Saturday.

Who am I to defy the experts.

Jesus wept. If you are indeed being serious, it is increasingly easy to see how this thing has gotten out of hand. Do you understand anything at all about the difference between self isolating and restricting your movements?

GazzaL · 14-10-2020 10:48PM

If they put half as much effort into clearly promoting good hygiene, social distancing, establishing effective testing and contact tracing, and boosting hospital capacity, we'd be in a far better place. Instead we listen to them on a daily basis banging on about restaurants, pubs, house parties, football matches.

I know a fella from Cavan who'll be visiting multiple counties in the next two weeks despite the "level 4" restrictions.

NPHET and the Government have well and truly lost the people on this.

Covid 19 Part XXVI- 50,993 ROI (1,852 deaths) 28,040 NI (621 deaths) (19/10) Read OP

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