John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

StupidLikeAFox · 13-10-2020 03:32PM

The "board" was just a collection of lads who were happy to be given a bit of a title for their voluntary work and get a few free tickets. Happy enough with their own little fiefdoms and no concept of what the role of a board member should entail

DM_7 · 13-10-2020 03:37PM

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plibige · 13-10-2020 06:05PM

I'm totally ignorant to corporate law and any of the penalties he could receive. But realistically, based on what we know, what is the best case/scenario that they could nail him on? And what would be the penalties he could receive?

Is jail a possibility? Like obviously I understand in other countries it would be a lot more realistic than here. But is it even a possibility here?

DM_7 · 13-10-2020 06:35PM

plibige wrote: »

I'm totally ignorant to corporate law and any of the penalties he could receive. But realistically, based on what we know, what is the best case/scenario that they could nail him on? And what would be the penalties he could receive?

Is jail a possibility? Like obviously I understand in other countries it would be a lot more realistic than here. But is it even a possibility here?

He has not been charged with anything so there is little point considering a penalty.

Irishmale0399 · 13-10-2020 06:39PM

He had his and his fathers mates sitting in the right positions signing everything off, sure they never questioned anything he did. Doubt they will be able to touch him...he will always claim the board didnt stop him or approved what he suggested.

plibige · 13-10-2020 07:51PM

DM_7 wrote: »

He has not been charged with anything so there is little point considering a penalty.

But not even specific to Delaney, just bad governance, what avenues are available when someone runs a company that receives public funding badly? Mismanages public funds etc

I know Delaney hasn't been charged, i'm asking broadly what's there?

kippy · 13-10-2020 08:09PM

plibige wrote: »

I'm totally ignorant to corporate law and any of the penalties he could receive. But realistically, based on what we know, what is the best case/scenario that they could nail him on? And what would be the penalties he could receive?

Is jail a possibility? Like obviously I understand in other countries it would be a lot more realistic than here. But is it even a possibility here?

Outside of the complete mismanagement of soccer administration in this country for the past two decades plus and the impact it will have on the next couple of decades of soccer in this country, very little will come of any of this.
Personally, if there's one thing I want to see happen out of this is more to do with the accountability of accountants, auditors and solicitors that JD doing jail time, but we have been here before with those particular professions and very very little has changed.

CantGetNoSleep · 13-10-2020 09:11PM

Is this streamed anywhere?

For Forks Sake · 13-10-2020 09:13PM

CantGetNoSleep wrote: »

Is this streamed anywhere?

https://www.virginmediatelevision.ie/player/live/virgin-media-one/
Assume it'll go up on the playback later on as well

dr.kenneth noisewater · 13-10-2020 10:15PM

Fairly disappointing I felt, just Tighe talking the whole time got a bit boring

Brock Turnpike · 13-10-2020 11:28PM

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Fairly disappointing I felt, just Tighe talking the whole time got a bit boring

Agreed. The book is much better than what was broadcast tonight.

expectationlost · 14-10-2020 12:31AM

Wasn't the value of the tickets for football matches that politicians got through Delaney worth more then face value they paid for because they were going to him because they couldn't get the tickets in the normal way. They were worth far more then what thy cost.

Richard Hillman · 14-10-2020 12:57AM

plibige wrote: »

But not even specific to Delaney, just bad governance, what avenues are available when someone runs a company that receives public funding badly? Mismanages public funds etc

I know Delaney hasn't been charged, i'm asking broadly what's there?

The money that he paid to his ex missus looks very dubious. She said she received some of it but not what the figures were suggesting.

She said she only received 10k but the figures that were published said 95k. There was one cheque that was written to her for 25k but was lodged into Delaneys own bank account. If that money never left his account and was not paid to her, he's in big big trouble.

And that's all before we get to the clear and obvious misappropriation of funds.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/payments-to-delaney-s-former-girlfriend-could-prove-key-to-potential-prosecution-1.4353884%3fmode=amp

scout353 · 14-10-2020 09:19AM

Thought it was a rather poor hour long book promotion.

In usual VMTV they used their limited library of footage over and over again.

Could have been so much better but I have no doubt it was vetted by the entire VMTV legal department!!!

14-10-2020 11:00AM

I liked the format, it was like a calm detached analysis, told very simply in chronological order. Like a Sunday political review show. Not the usual urgent sounding speeches by pundits shown standing in front of buildings, with jump cuts and raised voices. It doesn't need any extra drama.

Zebra3 · 14-10-2020 12:03PM

Pity Dunphy wasn't on to explain his bootlicking.

Scoundrel · 14-10-2020 03:22PM

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The money that he paid to his ex missus looks very dubious. She said she received some of it but not what the figures were suggesting.

She said she only received 10k but the figures that were published said 95k. There was one cheque that was written to her for 25k but was lodged into Delaneys own bank account. If that money never left his account and was not paid to her, he's in big big trouble.

And that's all before we get to the clear and obvious misappropriation of funds.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/payments-to-delaney-s-former-girlfriend-could-prove-key-to-potential-prosecution-1.4353884%3fmode=amp

Agreed it's the payment to the GF which ended up in his own account that'll hang him pretty much everything else can be explained away by saying it was approved by board etc.

Scoundrel · 14-10-2020 03:22PM

Zebra3 wrote: »

Pity Dunphy wasn't on to explain his bootlicking.

There were worse bootlickers than Dunphy Giles and Houghton come to mind.

salmocab · 14-10-2020 03:42PM

Scoundrel wrote: »

There were worse bootlickers than Dunphy Giles and Houghton come to mind.

Michael Healey Rae

Muahahaha · 14-10-2020 05:16PM

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Fairly disappointing I felt, just Tighe talking the whole time got a bit boring

yeah it needed more contributors than just Tighe, it would have been good if they interviewed the fans who had their Delaney Out flags confiscated from them. No contribution from Shane Ross either which was lacking given he was finally the Minister who didnt listen to Delaneys excuses.

Anyone know where John Delaney Park is?

Seth Brundle · 14-10-2020 05:19PM

Muahahaha wrote: »

Anyone know where John Delaney Park is?

Clones Town
https://goo.gl/maps/S1Gk5WYjypG66Yuq9

josip · 14-10-2020 05:27PM

We did a lot of driving around Ireland this summer, a lot of it off main roads.
One thing I noticed was the amount of all weather and floodlit soccer facilities in out of the way places.
I assume that was Delaney keeping the grassroots sweet?

kippy · 14-10-2020 08:17PM

josip wrote: »

We did a lot of driving around Ireland this summer, a lot of it off main roads.
One thing I noticed was the amount of all weather and floodlit soccer facilities in out of the way places.
I assume that was Delaney keeping the grassroots sweet?

Sports capital and generally hard working individuals on the ground getting these in place far more likely.
The thing is what goes on at the top of the FAI should not impact on sports facilities. The state has an obligation to ensure local groups get funding for these facilities as they are generally of great benefit to a portion of the population.

Irishmale0399 · 15-10-2020 01:31PM

https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/soccer/arid-40065317.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Could this be the next FAI (IRFU) will sell all Vantage Tickets themselves???

Muahahaha · 16-10-2020 04:32PM

Broadsheet.ie did a Q&A with Mark Tighe last night on Delaney and the FAI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdX7P8YEvYc&feature=emb_logo

Zebra3 · 17-10-2020 09:43AM

Bit more on Delaney and the ODCE.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/delaney-seeks-more-time-to-examine-files-in-fai-probe-39634659.html

Fingers crossed.

RunningFlyer · 24-10-2020 04:32PM

Just finished reading the book this week; a great read.

Absolutely incredible what went on and for how long. One thing for sure is he knew how to play a room, and intimated anyone going against him with legal action (charged to FAI!).

Not going to hold my breath but do hope he is somehow found accountable for all the money he skimmed from the association! As a previous poster says, I think the only thing that could potentially legally put him in a bind is the payments “to his ex”.

What a character!

Seth Brundle · 01-11-2020 05:40PM

He's still issuing legal threats...
Former FAI boss John Delaney sues ex-girlfriend Susan Keegan for defamation
This time, I guess that it's not the FAI paying the legal team.

Seth Brundle · 06-11-2020 07:11PM

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1324760450228211713

Muahahaha · 06-11-2020 07:54PM

Think this doc will be better than the TV3 one. Richie Saddlier, Brian Kerr and Catherine Murphy TD are some of the contributors. In the ad for it Brian Kerr says that Delaney reminds him of Trump.

John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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