John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

Richard Hillman

Zebra3 wrote: »

FAI got hit with a BIK bill because of Delaney.

€2.7M I think.

Surely they should be sending him the bill. If your employer doesn't calculate your tax correctly, the taxman is still coming after you the individual.

A friend of mine wasn't paying USC for about a year. He didn't question it but one day he got the letter and the bill.

Richard Hillman

Dillonb3 wrote: »

Reading the the book at the minute but the undermining of Brian Kerr really pissed me off. Delaney phoning the kitman and asking what was his relationship with the players was like while we were in the middle of the wc campaign. Then vetoing a job with a UEFA technical analysis group after letting Kerr go

That was beyond ****ty what happened with the UEFA thing. Unnecessarily nasty.

joeysoap

Zebra3 wrote: »

FAI got hit with a BIK bill because of Delaney.

€2.7M I think.

Your not liable for your own tax?

Zebra3

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Surely they should be sending him the bill. If your employer doesn't calculate your tax correctly, the taxman is still coming after you the individual.

A friend of mine wasn't paying USC for about a year. He didn't question it but one day he got the letter and the bill.

joeysoap wrote: »

Your not liable for your own tax?

I've no idea how it works!! Only saying what was reported.

Maybe somebody can chip in with an explanation.

Kingp35

Zebra3 wrote: »

I've no idea how it works!! Only saying what was reported.

Maybe somebody can chip in with an explanation.

As an ex-Revenue Tax Auditor (worse job I've ever had), I can tell you that the company is always liable for undeclared tax. We never went after the individual, unless they were a company director.

check_six

Zebra3 wrote: »

FAI got hit with a BIK bill because of Delaney.

€2.7M I think.

How much is a €2.7M fine translated into cash in Delaney's pocket? In the sense that how much Benefit did he receive to build up such a big fine? Was it €5Million worth of benefits? More? Bearing in mind that these Benefits would exclude 'legitimate' business expenses like first class flights, 5 star hotels, and Michelin Star restaurants.

Zebra3

Absolutely sensational stuff in there.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RadioCleary/status/1308448695655043072

beertons

^ That's deadly.

Ferris_Bueller

Just finished the book, really well written and interesting read. Knew a good lot of the information already from following everything quite closely but some of the older stuff on Delaney was new to me and the first few chapters was really jaw dropping stuff every few pages.

The last chapter which details all of the different payments he has received is incredible really, you would wonder how much this man has cost the FAI over his entire 15 year tenure.

Hammer Archer

Got it today and got through a few chapters. Even the prologue of the book was making my jaw drop!!!

expectationlost

did Fine Gael have their (wo)man on the FAI board like that did with John Byrne who was the government go between for Fianna Fail?

Varadkar was Minister btw 2011 and 2014 then Pascal Donohoe with Michael Ring as Minister of state for sport

Dillonb3

Papers today reporting Delaney doesn't regret anything and thinks he's a victim of a witch hunt. Deluded ar*ehole

Zebra3

Hour long documentary about Delaney on Virgin One on Tuesday at 9pm.

Father Hernandez

Champagne Football Documentary on Virgin Media One tonight at 9pm with Mark Tighe.

The book is incredible on what JD was up to, if the doc is like the book, it'll be worth the watch.

Chalk McHugh

Father Hernandez wrote: »

Champagne Football Documentary on Virgin Media One tonight at 9pm with Mark Tighe.

The book is incredible on what JD was up to, if the doc is like the book, it'll be worth the watch.

If iread the book or watched that programme it would only boil my blood. To hear him say last week 'he's no regrets' just shows you the neck on this conman. But he walked away without any punishment so no wonder he feels he did nothing wrong.

Father Hernandez

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

If iread the book or watched that programme it would only boil my blood. To hear him say last week 'he's no regrets' just shows you the neck on this conman. But he walked away without any punishment so no wonder he feels he did nothing wrong.

I laughed more reading the book than I thought I would given the sheer audacity of some schemes and the dictatorship he was running. Would highly recommend.

I'd like to think there is a case being made against him, again the book goes into some detail of missing money, money into accounts they shouldn't have been, etc. Suspect there will be more to come from it.

weldoninhio

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

If iread the book or watched that programme it would only boil my blood. To hear him say last week 'he's no regrets' just shows you the neck on this conman. But he walked away without any punishment so no wonder he feels he did nothing wrong.

You'd imagine there have to be some financial regulations he's broken or something that could nail him.

Dillonb3

weldoninhio wrote: »

You'd imagine there have to be some financial regulations he's broken or something that could nail him.

Wasn't one of the recent financial audits referred to the gardai?

Chalk McHugh

weldoninhio wrote: »

You'd imagine there have to be some financial regulations he's broken or something that could nail him.

You would like to think so but knowing Ireland as we do there's not a hope this man will see the inside of a prison cell.

RoryMac

I'm about 2/3 through the book and while the stuff Delaney got up to is making my blood boil I think as much of my anger is directed at the Yes men in the FAI who allowed it to happen, he had a nice little cohort of buddies on the board who facilitated all of his schemes and covered up for him, hiding details from the board.

His side contracts for pensions & bonuses that never went into the books or were seen by the board including a €2m bonus for staying with the FAI until the end of 2020

Zebra3

Chalk McHugh wrote: »

If iread the book or watched that programme it would only boil my blood. To hear him say last week 'he's no regrets' just shows you the neck on this conman. But he walked away without any punishment so no wonder he feels he did nothing wrong.

The supposed payment to his then or ex gf for organising a game against England that ended up apparently in his own bank account will be a hard one to explain away.

I'd say if there's something to get him on they'll go for it.

He'd be a pretty popular conviction. :pac:

kippy

RoryMac wrote: »

I'm about 2/3 through the book and while the stuff Delaney got up to is making my blood boil I think as much of my anger is directed at the Yes men in the FAI who allowed it to happen, he had a nice little cohort of buddies on the board who facilitated all of his schemes and covered up for him, hiding details from the board.

His side contracts for pensions & bonuses that never went into the books or were seen by the board including a €2m bonus for staying with the FAI until the end of 2020

It's a great book for those looking to win friends and influence poeple. The social engineering at play in the FAI by JD for the past two and a half decades will, in years to come, be something that people will study.

irishgeo

Dillonb3 wrote: »

Wasn't one of the recent financial audits referred to the gardai?

2 at the gardai and still the office of corporate enforcement one ongoing.

Muahahaha

RoryMac wrote: »

I'm about 2/3 through the book and while the stuff Delaney got up to is making my blood boil I think as much of my anger is directed at the Yes men in the FAI who allowed it to happen, he had a nice little cohort of buddies on the board who facilitated all of his schemes and covered up for him, hiding details from the board.

Thats the way these scams always work, you place Yes men in positions of power and let them gorge at the trough too, that way they want to keep the gravy train going and it becomes their personal interest to keep voting the CEO back in regardless of how badly the organisation is run.

Blatter ran FIFA the same way, he looked after all the tiny Caribbean island nations and African ones, they were his Yes men and their votes got him elected time and time again.

Dunmoreroader

I just want to throw it out there that despite his constant description as a Waterfordian, Delaney is in fact from Tipp.

Just saying. :cool:

Zebra3

Dunmoreroader wrote: »

I just want to throw it out there that despite his constant description as a Waterfordian, Delaney is in fact from Tipp.

Just saying. :cool:

It's ok, both counties can claim him.

Dunmoreroader

Zebra3 wrote: »

It's ok, both counties can claim him.

Unlike with Sam Bennett and Sean Kelly, Tipp can have this one uncontested.

kksaints

Dunmoreroader wrote: »

I just want to throw it out there that despite his constant description as a Waterfordian, Delaney is in fact from Tipp.

Just saying. :cool:

And yet he supports Kilkenny in the hurling and was on the team bus one year after we won the All-Ireland. Could do without him been linked to us.

The book is fascinating but parts of it are infuriating how he basically ripped off football in Ireland and got away with it for so long due to the board members been in his pockets and weak oversight from the government and the auditors. The legal threats he made to all and sundry are also deeply frustrating and horrific.

Chalk McHugh

Dunmoreroader wrote: »

Unlike with Sam Bennett and Sean Kelly, Tipp can have this one uncontested.

Is there a contest with Kelly and Bennet? I thought Kelly was 100% Waterford and Bennet 100% Tipp? Delaney is from Waterford i thought but grew up in Tipp.

kippy

kksaints wrote: »

And yet he supports Kilkenny in the hurling and was on the team bus one year after we won the All-Ireland. Could do without him been linked to us.

The book is fascinating but parts of it are infuriating how he basically ripped off football in Ireland and got away with it for so long due to the board members been in his pockets and weak oversight from the government and the auditors. The legal threats he made to all and sundry are also deeply frustrating and horrific.

You'll note he hasn't made any legal threads to anyone since he came off the FAI payroll......wouldn't spend his own money but no problem spending the FAIs money on solicitors......