Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

CIARAN_BOYLE · 12-10-2020 02:55PM

spookwoman wrote: »

Ref Flu jabs and people saying December before they can get them. I was in getting mine this morning and nurse was saying huge uptake this year for them and they are prioritizing high risk people. Lot of those high risk would normally not get it are looking for them and expecting it straight away. This surgery only gets deliveries once a week and have run out a few times already, this may be the case with other places and why the delays.
Good to see people getting it, every little helps as they say.

The flu will hopefully be a minor irritant this winter as social distancing hand sanitation proper cough etiquette and isolation with symptoms combined with a greater uptake of the flu vaccine will protect us.

This is valuable and will hopefully reduce the strain on the health service.

Gadgetman496 · 12-10-2020 02:57PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

The flu will hopefully be a minor irritant this winter as social distancing hand sanitation proper cough etiquette and isolation with symptoms combined with a greater uptake of the flu vaccine will protect us.

This is valuable and will hopefully reduce the strain on the health service.

So, you are anti mask wearing?

CIARAN_BOYLE · 12-10-2020 03:01PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

So, you are anti mask wearing?

I would be curious how you came to that conclusion from my comment.

Gadgetman496 · 12-10-2020 03:04PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I would be curious how you came to that conclusion from my comment.

You excluded the wearing of masks from your list of measures to reduce the strain on the health service

eigrod · 12-10-2020 03:07PM

https://twitter.com/robohanrahan/status/1315655053424852993?s=21

Goldrickssan · 12-10-2020 03:08PM

eigrod wrote: »

https://twitter.com/robohanrahan/status/1315655053424852993?s=21

Why are they bringing out an ex patient?
To spook us?

Cluedo Monopoly · 12-10-2020 03:11PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Why are they bringing out an ex patient?
To spook us?

We have seen him before

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0903/1162901-doctor-suffers-post-covid/

BringBackMick · 12-10-2020 03:11PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Why are they bringing out an ex patient?
To spook us?

Project Fear

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/i-never-thought-i-would-be-that-sick-young-doctor-on-getting-covid-19-1.4344772

hmmm · 12-10-2020 03:13PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Why are they bringing out an ex patient?
To spook us?

Well yes, that's kind of the point. To help combat misinformation that this is all trivial.

They're hardly going to trot out someone to say "Hey everyone I got Covid, it was super, loved it, no bother."

CIARAN_BOYLE · 12-10-2020 03:13PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

You excluded the wearing of masks from your list of measures to reduce the strain on the health service

I do think that's a massive leap to make.

To be honest I wear a mask. I don't have faith in the average person to do so in a beneficial matter. Most seem yo treat them as chin guards or toys.

At any rate my list was steps that people will be doing that will limit the transmission of influenza making this a light flu season.

I've never researched the value of wearing masks regarding the transmission of influenza.

Miike · 12-10-2020 03:19PM

Gadgetman496 wrote: »

So, you are anti mask wearing?

That's some high level mental gymnastics.

Gadgetman496 · 12-10-2020 03:20PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

I do think that's a massive leap to make.

To be honest I wear a mask. I don't have faith in the average person to do so in a beneficial matter. Most seem yo treat them as chin guards or toys.

At any rate my list was steps that people will be doing that will limit the transmission of influenza making this a light flu season.

I've never researched the value of wearing masks regarding the transmission of influenza.

I was just playing the devil's advocate Ciaran, nothing more

I knew well what you meant in your post.

Gael23 · 12-10-2020 03:21PM

Goldrickssan wrote: »

Why are they bringing out an ex patient?
To spook us?

Yes just to keep up the fear

caveat emptor · 12-10-2020 03:23PM

Cluedo Monopoly wrote: »

We have seen him before

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0903/1162901-doctor-suffers-post-covid/

I think people concluded at the time that he was never tested therefore he probably didn't have covid.

Ficheall · 12-10-2020 03:23PM

bb1234567 wrote: »

I've been sick with worry for Timer Leste all morning - glad to hear things are going well there

I agree there's no need for Kermit to post info that's easily available on worldometers for every country, but Timor L'este has been having about one new case every two weeks, and has 0 active cases most of the time. Unfortunately, West Timor cases are included as part of Indonesia, so it's difficult to tell how bad things are on that side, though a brief scan suggests they closed the border at the start of the outbreak - I presume it's reopened now.

The progress of a country with one land border and a population of ~1.3 million which seems to be on the line of zero covid is worth noting. Of course, they have only had 9k tests according to worldometers, so who knows...

Non solum non ambulabit · 12-10-2020 03:24PM

Gael23 wrote: »

Yes just to keep up the fear

The majority of people are not paying attention so this fear mongering is just making those already in fear even worse.

political analyst · 12-10-2020 03:24PM

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/cavan-headed-for-covid-19-danger-zone-as-border-counties-may-face-level-4-restrictions-39613106.html

Cavan is heading for the Covid-19 danger zone and may overtake Donegal for the spread of infection amid rising concern about counties along the Border.

New fourteen day incidence figures for Covid 19 today show that the rate in Cavan has jumped to 338.7 per 100,000 in the space of a few days from 144.4 per 100,000 as the virus has rapidly taken hold in the county.

Level 3 has been in place for only 5 days and thus, given the incubation period, many of those cases probably involve infection that took place before Level 3 was brought in. So why use today's figures to justify Level 4? Why not give Level 3 a chance to work before deciding whether to go to Level 4?

suicide_circus · 12-10-2020 03:25PM

hmmm wrote: »

Well yes, that's kind of the point. To help combat misinformation that this is all trivial.

They're hardly going to trot out someone to say "Hey everyone I got Covid, it was super, loved it, no bother."

True but it is little more than an inconvenience to the vast majority of people.

*runs away*

Non solum non ambulabit · 12-10-2020 03:25PM

Ficheall wrote: »

The progress of a country with one land border and a population of ~1.3 million which seems to be on the line of zero covid is worth noting.

They had a border to close. We don't.

JDD · 12-10-2020 03:27PM

Re flu vaccine, I'm going to book in at my local pharmacy. Doesn't bother me to wait a month for an appointment. I suppose as long as I get it before the worst of the flu season (Dec/Jan I think?) then it'll be worth it. It's not me virtue signalling or anything, it's just a nagging feeling at the back of my mind that it would be just my luck to catch the flu and covid at the same time. I think I'd be able to cope with either of them on their own, but both at the same time? Fvck no. And I HATE hospitals. I hate jabs too. But I hate hospitals way WAY more.

So we've 420 available hospital beds as of today. Assuming we don't shut down the elective health system, that's 420 left out of approx 12,000 beds in the health system.

Given the fact that there is 220 people in hospital with covid, that means there is around 11,780 in hospital for other reasons, like heart attacks and broken legs and cancer treatment and every other ailment that exists.

How many of the available 420 beds will be taken up by every day acute ailments over the next month? How many will be genuinely available for covid admissions and when will we reach capacity if admissions continue on the same trajectory as they have over the few weeks? I think we have a month before we have to cancel "elective" procedures and about six weeks away from tents outside hospitals.

it's not doom and gloom pessimism. I just can't see how the numbers could go any other way.

Ficheall · 12-10-2020 03:28PM

Non solum non ambulabit wrote: »

They had a border to close. We don't.

Oh, I know we couldn't close our border - I didn't mean to suggest it was an exact parallel.

jopax · 12-10-2020 03:30PM

Any idea of case numbers yet today?

seamus · 12-10-2020 03:31PM

political analyst wrote: »

Level 3 has been in place for only 5 days and thus, given the incubation period, many of those cases probably involve infection that took place before Level 3 was brought in. So why use today's figures to justify Level 4? Why not give Level 3 a chance to work before deciding whether to go to Level 4?

I agree that there hasn't been enough time given to let level 3 take effect, but the concern for border counties is the dismal situation in the North. That if the North goes into lockdown, the border counties will need to go to level 4 to prevent people border-hopping to go shopping.

It will still happen to other counties, but if there are Garda checkpoints everywhere, it'll at least slow them down and discourage them.

IrishStuff09 · 12-10-2020 03:32PM

Swab data for today (12/10)

Positive Swabs |Positivity | Total Swabs
998|7.13%|13,988

Benimar · 12-10-2020 03:33PM

1580 positive swabs over 48 hours (814 cases announced yesterday) on 22,175 tests - positivity rate 7.13%

ACitizenErased · 12-10-2020 03:34PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Swab data for today (12/10)

Positive Swabs |Positivity | Total Swabs
998|7.13%|13,988

The swabs should be the 48hr figure no? Mondays figure is for 48hrs

Benimar · 12-10-2020 03:35PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Swab data for today (12/10)

Positive Swabs |Positivity | Total Swabs
998|7.13%|13,988

Benimar wrote: »

1580 positive swabs over 48 hours (814 cases announced yesterday) on 22,175 tests - positivity rate 7.13%

So based on that: Sunday swabs 582 and announced 814.

Can I ask where u get the daily figure - I can only get the weekend totals on Monday!

rovers_runner · 12-10-2020 03:35PM

IrishStuff09 wrote: »

Swab data for today (12/10)

Positive Swabs |Positivity | Total Swabs
998|7.13%|13,988

KrustyUCC · 12-10-2020 03:36PM

Benimar wrote: »

1580 positive swabs over 48 hours (814 cases announced yesterday) on 22,175 tests - positivity rate 7.13%

Ouch over 7%

Not good unfortunately

IrishStuff09 · 12-10-2020 03:37PM

Benimar wrote: »

So based on that: Sunday swabs 582 and announced 814.

Can I ask where u get the daily figure - I can only get the weekend totals on Monday!

On this page go to Data and then the last page, you can see the individual amounts for Sunday and Monday

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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