The Great Reset

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-10-2020 9:56pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

What changes do you envisage, Accumulator?

In it's most simpliest terms, leaders globally have looked at China in terms of managing it's own pandemic, it's citizens (inc Ughiers), it's 7% GDP forecast (for 2020), it's 'SmartCities', it's control over media or opposition, and thought....
...I'll have some of that.

Afterall, who inpower, does not want more 'control'?

Dionaibh · 11-10-2020 9:59pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

In it's most simpliest terms, leaders globally have looked at China in terms of managing it's own pandemic, it's citizens (inc Ughiers), it's 7% GDP forecast (for 2020), it's 'SmartCities', it's control over media or opposition, and thought....
...I'll have some of that.

Afterall, who inpower, does not want more 'control'?

But they're always talking about the importance of a free press and criticising Trump for calling out the media.

So mass surveillance. Possibly a social credit system?

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-10-2020 10:01pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

.... up to something undemocratic, without ever once giving specifics

Is 'The Big Reset of 2021' (DAVOS/WEF/Bilderberg/Rockerfellers) by defination all entirely democratic meet-ups?

Yes there'll be some sweet zoom calls from Greta airdropped onto a melting Iceberg and so on, but there won't be any votes cast or great public consultations.

11-10-2020 10:02pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Thing is, that its you that is only concerned with dismissing the 'title' of a book, and entirely ignoring the unread contents, even the blurb bit on the back.

So we can assume from your POV, you are expecting very little in the way of any change at all, after this (once in a lifetime opportunity) twin-summit for global change across all socio-economic areas. Grand so.

And the fact remains, it's a discussion. Businesses might adopt strategies based on findings, governments might. Nothing mandatory about them or anything.

By the way you're talking, I assume you've read the book right?

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-10-2020 10:05pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

So mass surveillance. Possibly a social credit system?

Cloud Blockchain is the centrepeice of all future policy from the WEF.

Reckon many countries also dream about having China's SCS, it does have both positive and negative attributes after all.

China's smart cities are also proving to be very useful for them, again positive and negative to consider with such innovations.

Dohnjoe · 11-10-2020 10:07pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Is 'The Big Reset of 2021' (DAVOS/WEF/Bilderberg/Rockerfellers) by defination all entirely democratic meet-ups?

It's a global forum/summit. We've had things like this before.

Paranoid and delusional people are simply unable to process this. They will never stop trying to infer it's something else. Once it happens, they will read into everything (Agenda 21, lol), then forget it until the next one, rinse repeat.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-10-2020 10:12pm

Deleted User wrote: »

And the fact remains, it's a discussion.

Just a chit-chat, elbow bump and chin-wag,
or a gathering to sign and agree on policy outlined already?

Deleted User wrote: »

Businesses might adopt strategies based on findings

This is not a meeting of any corporate entities, SME's, nor startups.

Deleted User wrote: »

There's nothing undemocratic about global conferences....

This is not just any conference with tea and sandwiches.
This is a once in a lifetime (twin-summit) called 'The Great Reset', a great revamp.

Again from the organiser:

The world must act jointly and swiftly to revamp all aspects of our societies and economies, from education to social contracts and working conditions. Every country, from the United States to China, must participate, and every industry, from oil and gas to tech, must be transformed. In short, we need a “Great Reset”

Dohnjoe · 11-10-2020 10:17pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Just a chit-chat, elbow bump and chin-wag,
or a gathering to sign and agree on policy outlined already?

This is not a meeting of any corporate entities, SME's, nor startups.

This is not just any conference with tea and sandwiches.
This is a once in a lifetime (twin-summit) called 'The Great Reset'.

It's a global discussion and forum.

They aren't going to decide to get our local GP's to secretly "mark" us with special digital whatevers like you've been suggesting.

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-10-2020 10:21pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

It's a global discussion and forum.

See above.

11-10-2020 10:29pm

Gianni Scrawny Steroid wrote: »

Just a chit-chat, elbow bump and chin-wag,
or a gathering to sign and agree on policy outlined already?

This is not a meeting of any corporate entities, SME's, nor startups.

This is not just any conference with tea and sandwiches.
This is a once in a lifetime (twin-summit) called 'The Great Reset', a great revamp.

Again from the organiser:

Again, why is it anti democratic? If you were to ban the WEF or the conference, that would be anti democratic. No policy is signed into being via the WEF... If good ideas are expressed that could become the policy of a government but that still goes through the standard legislative processes of governments. You know, the democratic ones?

4068ac1elhodqr · 11-10-2020 10:46pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Again, why is it anti democratic? If you were to ban the WEF or the conference, that would be anti democratic. No policy is signed into being via the WEF... If good ideas are expressed that could become the policy of a government but that still goes through the standard legislative processes of governments. You know, the democratic ones?

Putting aside the invite-only similar (Bilderberg) who hand pick global 'personas' to agree on state, corporate and global policy direction (undemocratic).

One simple example of policy via TheGreatReset you can be asured of is the 'CommonPass Framework' (as per WEF, and funded by the Rockerfellers). This model will shortly (<end 2021) and informally spearhead towards reach global realisation (even before any WEF/DAVOS meetup agrees to it formally mid-year).

If Brazil, Ireland or someone else refuses to sign up to this Framework, the penality of doing so, will be near global exclusion from regular travel, through the majority of the world's airports.

Systemic changes are on the way, again direct 'expectation' from the WEF:

We must build entirely new foundations for our economic and social systems. The level of cooperation and ambition this implies is unprecedented

Dionaibh · 12-10-2020 10:47am

A comment on an article in The Telegraph about Johnson shutting down businesses in the UK:

"This is about total decimation of the economy so that Klaus Schwab's great reset or fourth industrial revolution can be implemented.

Johnson isn't oblivious to the destruction, he's not incompetent; Johnson is doing EXACTLY what he has been told to do.

In the coming months Johnson and Hancock will herald in this new world order (Great Reset posters already up in parts of the UK) and the gullible amongst us will think how wonderful that something good has come out of this crisis. But the more informed amongst us will realise that the virus has been used as trojan horse to accelerate the plans of one of the most ethically repugnant psychopaths on this planet.

The measures taken by our government (most governments) were never about health: it has always been about control.

Say goodbye to life as you knew it.

Say hello to totalitarianism, global government, digital currency, AI, endless vaccines, and, ultimately, depopulation.

Research The Great Reset and educate yourself."

Dohnjoe · 12-10-2020 11:52am

Dionaibh wrote: »

A comment on an article in The Telegraph about Johnson shutting down businesses in the UK:

"This is about total decimation of the economy so that Klaus Schwab's great reset or fourth industrial revolution can be implemented.

Johnson isn't oblivious to the destruction, he's not incompetent; Johnson is doing EXACTLY what he has been told to do.

Cool. So let's fact-check this claim.

1. Who has told Johnson to "decimate" the economy in the UK?
2. Why?

No imagined answers, only real ones backed up by evidence.

If you can't provide these, this is yet another example of a paranoid person on the internet inventing an (incredibly silly) theory with no credible evidence

Dohnjoe · 12-10-2020 11:55am

Dionaibh wrote: »

Say hello to totalitarianism, global government, digital currency, AI, endless vaccines, and, ultimately, depopulation.

Research The Great Reset and educate yourself."

The "educate" there means go read conspiracy sites that contain nothing but disinfo and endless fantasies of totalitarian governments taking over. It's always "just around the corner".

King Mob · 12-10-2020 1:07pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

Say goodbye to life as you knew it.

Say hello to totalitarianism, global government, digital currency, AI, endless vaccines, and, ultimately, depopulation.

Research The Great Reset and educate yourself."

I have to say I'm very disappointed.
Previously you said you understood why one of your conspiracy theories were wrong and you accepted that you were wrong. But here you are still promoting them same nonsense.

Did you not apply critical thinking like you said you would?

12-10-2020 1:38pm

King Mob wrote: »

I have to say I'm very disappointed.
Previously you said you understood why one of your conspiracy theories were wrong and you accepted that you were wrong. But here you are still promoting them same nonsense.

Did you not apply critical thinking like you said you would?

It's a bit telling that no poster complaining about the Great Reset appears to have read the book. You'd think it'd bolster their argument.

Dohnjoe · 12-10-2020 1:45pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's a bit telling that no poster complaining about the Great Reset appears to have read the book. You'd think it'd bolster their argument.

Even so, it's already been demonstrated in this thread that some online reviewer who actually read the book completely misconstrued it's meanings and changed context

If someone has a highly paranoid filter, they may simply be unable or unwilling to process information normally, i.e. reading into things that aren't there

Dionaibh · 12-10-2020 1:47pm

Dohnjoe wrote: »

Cool. So let's fact-check this claim.

1. Who has told Johnson to "decimate" the economy in the UK?
2. Why?

No imagined answers, only real ones backed up by evidence.

If you can't provide these, this is yet another example of a paranoid person on the internet inventing an (incredibly silly) theory with no credible evidence

Putting myself in the person who wrote the comment's shoes, this is what I imagine they are thinking:

1. Klaus Schwab and WEF in order to "build back better" and "reset" the old destroyed society. The increasing use of "build back better" and the Great Reset itself is evidence, but not proof.

2. To "build back better" and reset the old destroyed society.

Dionaibh · 12-10-2020 1:48pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's a bit telling that no poster complaining about the Great Reset appears to have read the book. You'd think it'd bolster their argument.

I'm too afraid to read the book. It sounds scary.

Dionaibh · 12-10-2020 1:49pm

King Mob wrote: »

I have to say I'm very disappointed.
Previously you said you understood why one of your conspiracy theories were wrong and you accepted that you were wrong. But here you are still promoting them same nonsense.

Did you not apply critical thinking like you said you would?

But then I thought about it a bit more and did a bit more reading, and I think there may be something to it. But I'm open to being wrong. I think that's a good way to look at things.

Dionaibh · 12-10-2020 1:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

It's a bit telling that no poster complaining about the Great Reset appears to have read the book. You'd think it'd bolster their argument.

Do you think all the people on social media who are very worried about the Great Reset, people who comment on YouTube videos and on newspaper articles, are conspiracy theorists? The reason they're worried is because of how dramatic and far-reaching the Great Reset sounds.

King Mob · 12-10-2020 2:07pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

But then I thought about it a bit more and did a bit more reading, and I think there may be something to it. But I'm open to being wrong. I think that's a good way to look at things.

I don't think that's true.
I don't think you're being genuine. You are using very dishonest arguments and tactics.

You didn't do any reading, you read conspiracy blogs and watched conspiracy youtube videos.
And again you did not apply any critical thinking and fell for the same nonsense you agreed was wrong.

You should perhaps stop watching youtube as you don't seem very well suited to judging reality from ficition and seem to want to believe a conspiracy, even when you know it's silly and doesn't make sense.

Dionaibh · 12-10-2020 2:12pm

King Mob wrote: »

I don't think that's true.
I don't think you're being genuine. You are using very dishonest arguments and tactics.

You didn't do any reading, you read conspiracy blogs and watched conspiracy youtube videos.
And again you did not apply any critical thinking and fell for the same nonsense you agreed was wrong.

You should perhaps stop watching youtube as you don't seem very well suited to judging reality from ficition and seem to want to believe a conspiracy, even when you know it's silly and doesn't make sense.

What's silly about the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6pzXrEBqR0

The man who made the video did a lot of research and quotes people involved with the Great Reset.

And I watched interviews with Schwab himself. He's talking about stakeholder capitalism, and resetting every aspect of human behaviour, work etc. It's crazy.

12-10-2020 2:17pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

I'm too afraid to read the book. It sounds scary.

So you're saying something sounds scary so avoiding the primary source and instead choose to believe convoluted conspiracy theories.

Dionaibh · 12-10-2020 2:20pm

Deleted User wrote: »

So you're saying something sounds scary so avoiding the primary source and instead choose to believe convoluted conspiracy theories.

But I don't think that video I posted a link to is a conspiracy theory. The man who made the video quotes people who are involved with the reset.

King Mob · 12-10-2020 2:22pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

What's silly about the following video:

The man who made the video did a lot of research and quotes people involved with the Great Reset.

And I watched interviews with Schwab himself. He's talking about stakeholder capitalism, and resetting every aspect of human behaviour, work etc. It's crazy.

But we've been over this.
Bad people can twist and alter and misrepresent things.
Bad people who want to trick you.

I really feel bad for bursting your bubble of innocence on this. But you can't trust people on the internet.

Also, why do you keep trying to deflect and avoid topics and points when they become uncomfortable for you. That's a very dishonest tactic and lends weight to the notion that you aren't being genuine.

Timberrrrrrrr · 12-10-2020 3:00pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

What's silly about the following video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6pzXrEBqR0

The man who made the video did a lot of research and quotes people involved with the Great Reset.

And I watched interviews with Schwab himself. He's talking about stakeholder capitalism, and resetting every aspect of human behaviour, work etc. It's crazy.

How do you know? Because he says so? Have you done any research yourself to verify his claims or are you taking him at face value?

Dionaibh · 12-10-2020 3:17pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

How do you know? Because he says so? Have you done any research yourself to verify his claims or are you taking him at face value?

He shows clips of people talking about different things (technology, transhumanism etc). No misquoting.

Dionaibh · 12-10-2020 3:18pm

King Mob wrote: »

But we've been over this.
Bad people can twist and alter and misrepresent things.
Bad people who want to trick you.

I really feel bad for bursting your bubble of innocence on this. But you can't trust people on the internet.

Also, why do you keep trying to deflect and avoid topics and points when they become uncomfortable for you. That's a very dishonest tactic and lends weight to the notion that you aren't being genuine.

But I don't believe the man who made the video is misrepresenting things.

King Mob · 12-10-2020 3:21pm

Dionaibh wrote: »

He shows clips of people talking about different things (technology, transhumanism etc). No misquoting.

But you have to understand that dishonest people can present quotes in ways that misrepresent them without actually changing what they say.
It's very easy to do and scam artists do it a lot.

Just because someone is providing a quote it doesn't mean they are accurately representing it's context and meaning.

Again, this is basic critical thinking stuff.
Have you honestly not considered this a possibility?

Maybe you should actually read the book to ensure this is not the case.

But you won't do this I think because you would prefer to believe in a conspiracy theory.

The Great Reset

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