Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

smellyoldboot · 11-10-2020 12:51PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

No it f**king doesn't, what?

It would be 0.8% of positive results, if accurate, not of total tests taken. But I suspect you knew that before posting.

speckle · 11-10-2020 12:52PM

majcos wrote: »

A 1 in 2000 chance of dying of Covid if under 45 (as per your number of 0.05%) is not the same as as 0.1 per 1,000,000 chance per year in Ireland of being killed by lightning. Last case I can find in Ireland is of a teenager who died in Dublin in 2008.

Higher risk of dying from lighting strike in other countries but nowhere near 1 in 2000. Lifetime risk in USA of being hit by lightning is 1 in 180,000.

Agree with the above, I just must live an eventful life at times, feel nearly part of an exclusive club.. Lightning hit 6 foot in front of me once, thankfully not a direct hit, but was pushed back probably another 5/6foot into my house and it set the landline ringing another time. Bizarre lesson never answer a landline if it rings during a thunderstorm, even if you have unplugged everything.:eek:

would have pregerred to win the lotto... now that reminds me of another time when...

Icyseanfitz · 11-10-2020 12:53PM

owlbethere wrote: »

The biggest problem area for transmissions, as I see it from this, is occurring from private households. I presume maybe from household gatherings/parties.

The level 3 restricts pubs/restaurants/cafes/hotels. It's not going to target the problem area where transmissions are occurring.

The problem with labeling something as "private home" Is that the site of original transmission could be nearly anywhere.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 11-10-2020 12:53PM

drunkmonkey wrote: »

What is your take on the false positive rate, is it .8%, that's the number in the UK.

My take (as espoused by Dr Ronan Glynn and Professor Brian Nolan) is that almost all false positives show up as low positives. These cases are retested before being included in positive case numbers.

Actual false positives (as opposed to false low positives) would be under 0.1%. Remember the meat plan widespread testing showed a positivity rate of 0.2% which means that the false positive rate cannot be above that.

Tenzor07 · 11-10-2020 12:53PM

rob316 wrote: »

New Zealand again. It's an island on the other side of the world six hours away from the nearest country.

Some people are obsessed with the Super-Kiwi-socialistic-empire-of-Jacinda!

shocksy · 11-10-2020 12:53PM

Oranage2 wrote: »

How can China with 1.4 billion people and 14 land borders do it?

How can Vietnam with 100 million people and 3 land borders do it.

Taiwan

New Zealand

Montenegro has 6 land borders

All these countries are covid free. And when covid infects the countries again it's not a loss, the battle hard again and defeat it. If these countries can do it then Ireland certainly can.

If you believe anything that comes out of China you are very naive. They are not covid free. The CCP arent much better than NK. They only report what they want people to hear. The same way they said covid wasn't anything to worry about and couldn't be passed from human to human when it first came about. They are full of Sh!t.

Ficheall · 11-10-2020 12:54PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

I have to say the attempt on this thread by certain posters to silence a younger poster who provides their own insights and opinions, which they are perfectly entitled to do, needs to be highlighted for what it is. An attempt to bully someone off the thread. There are many posters providing numbers and you can choose to do your own research or interpret them how you like. Shameful behaviour by certain posters on this thread, who seem to favour the blaming of members of society, alienation, and attacking those who are thinking critically about the current situation.

I've no interest in bullying ACE off the thread - I do have an interest in people reading the thread knowing that he isn't any better informed than anyone else - I don't know how long you've been in these threads, but he had a strong following for quite a while, and many posters were accepting his word as gospel.
I presume you also defended those who were labelled as doom-mongers and had their more pessimistic opinions castigated over the summer.

Deshawn · 11-10-2020 12:56PM

A temporary manned border between the Republic of Ireland and UK (northern Ireland) is required. People from Northern Ireland should not be coming into the Republic to work , holiday etc.

This will never end

manniot2 · 11-10-2020 12:57PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Some people are obsessed with the Super-Kiwi-socialistic-empire-of-Jacinda!

When in NZ I always saw the kiwis as rugged hardy people, many living very remotely and many slightly backward (apologies can’t think of a better description). I think this virus could still be in their midst and they just aren’t testing as much or coming forward for testing. Just a hunch.

shocksy · 11-10-2020 12:58PM

Deshawn wrote: »

A temporary manned border between the Republic of Ireland and UK (northern Ireland) is required. People from Northern Ireland should not be coming into the Republic to work , holiday etc.

This will never end

Be careful with that post, you'll be castrated for such a remark like that on this thread. It's inconceivable to some people on here. They could at least man the main roads in and out of the North. Obviously couldn't monitor all roads but could at least do the main ones. No one from NI has any business coming down South at the moment with their outrageous infection rates.

11-10-2020 01:00PM

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

My take (as espoused by Dr Ronan Glynn and Professor Brian Nolan) is that almost all false positives show up as low positives. These cases are retested before being included in positive case numbers.

Actual false positives (as opposed to false low positives) would be under 0.1%. Remember the meat plan widespread testing showed a positivity rate of 0.2% which means that the false positive rate cannot be above that.

And the testing in July

Always_Running · 11-10-2020 01:00PM

Latest update from CSO.

Key Findings:

Dublin made up 33% of all new cases, a total of 805 cases, for the week ending 02 October and it is the fourth week in a row that Dublin had more than 800 weekly cases

Cork is the county with the second highest number of new cases at 285 cases, for the week ending 02 October

This is the sixth week in a row that all counties have recorded new cases of COVID-19

Less than 20 people have died from COVID-19 for each of the last 16 weeks

The number of weekly confirmed COVID-19 cases is more than 2,000 cases in each of the last three weeks up to the week ending 02 October

There were 2,440 confirmed COVID-19 cases in the week ending 02 October, an increase of 66 cases from the previous week

The median age of new confirmed COVID-19 cases was 33 years old for the week ending 02 October

More than half (55%) of confirmed cases are now linked to an outbreak and for the last seven weeks outbreaks in private houses account for 61% of cases linked to an outbreak

Women and those aged between 25-44 continue to account for the highest number of confirmed cases

Those aged over 80 account for 2% of cases since July compared to 20% in April

Since July there has been an increase in cases in areas where median household income is lower, there is higher dependency on welfare payments and a large proportion of the population live in rental accommodation

Health care workers now make up 7% of cases compared to a peak of 36% in April

Beasty · 11-10-2020 01:00PM

caveat emptor wrote: »

While I don’t like making anyone feel crap. This is accurate. Thanks

Very well, you are also threadbanned then

CruelSummer · 11-10-2020 01:00PM

JP100 wrote: »

Nonsense, they singularly failed to put a plan B in place for the possibility of school closures. In light of such negligence, they've no choice but to push for schools to remain open and irrespective of case numbers in the community. This is about the Department trying to hide their own incompetence as much as anything else.

This is not true, most schools have apps, e-mail, many methods of communication with their pupils while they're at home. This approach did not work, especially for younger children. They are very far behind in their school curriculums. Some of these children need school for stability, food, a mentor they don't have at home, to learn social behaviours, etc. They need to be onsite and learning - you would know this if you looked into how the School Curriculum works, it's online for all to read. Your attitude towards young people, dismissing the importance of their Education, like some other posters on this thread is shocking and needs to be called out.

caveat emptor · 11-10-2020 01:00PM

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Some people are obsessed with the Super-Kiwi-socialistic-empire-of-Jacinda!

And some people work in aviation. Also 'some people' chastised people for saying there might be a second wave. Of those 'some people' will never admit they were 100% wrong.

Deshawn · 11-10-2020 01:01PM

shocksy wrote: »

Be careful with that post, you'll be castrated for such a remark like that on this thread. It's inconceivable to some people on here. They could at least man the main roads in and out of the North. Obviously couldn't monitor all roads but could at least do the main ones. No one from NI has any business coming down South at the moment with their outrageous infection rates.

Verbal abuse rather than a counter point is the order of social media.
Il take my chances

Tenzor07 · 11-10-2020 01:02PM

manniot2 wrote: »

When in NZ I always saw the kiwis as rugged hardy people, many living very remotely and many slightly backward (apologies can’t think of a better description). I think this virus could still be in their midst and they just aren’t testing as much or coming forward for testing. Just a hunch.

Ah but Jacinda.... Initiated a Socialist Nanny state...."Do you know how hard it is to quarantine a country of two small islands with low population and a wealth of natural resources that renders them completely self-sufficient?

Icyseanfitz · 11-10-2020 01:05PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

This is not true, most schools have apps, e-mail, many methods of communication with their pupils while they're at home. This approach did not work, especially for younger children. They are very far behind in their school curriculums. Some of these children need school for stability, food, a mentor they don't have at home, to learn social behaviours, etc. They need to be onsite and learning - you would know this if you looked into how the School Curriculum works, it's online for all to read. Your attitude towards young people, dismissing the importance of their Education, like some other posters on this thread is shocking and needs to be called out.

You know what is more important than education, safety

niallo27 · 11-10-2020 01:05PM

Always_Running wrote: »

Latest update from CSO.

Key Findings:

Dublin made up 33% of all new cases, a total of 805 cases, for the week ending 02 October and it is the fourth week in a row that Dublin had more than 800 weekly cases

Cork is the county with the second highest number of new cases at 285 cases, for the week ending 02 October

This is the sixth week in a row that all counties have recorded new cases of COVID-19

Less than 20 people have died from COVID-19 for each of the last 16 weeks

The number of weekly confirmed COVID-19 cases is more than 2,000 cases in each of the last three weeks up to the week ending 02 October

There were 2,440 confirmed COVID-19 cases in the week ending 02 October, an increase of 66 cases from the previous week

The median age of new confirmed COVID-19 cases was 33 years old for the week ending 02 October

More than half (55%) of confirmed cases are now linked to an outbreak and for the last seven weeks outbreaks in private houses account for 61% of cases linked to an outbreak

Women and those aged between 25-44 continue to account for the highest number of confirmed cases

Those aged over 80 account for 2% of cases since July compared to 20% in April

Since July there has been an increase in cases in areas where median household income is lower, there is higher dependency on welfare payments and a large proportion of the population live in rental accommodation

Health care workers now make up 7% of cases compared to a peak of 36% in April

Great info, but where is the median age of the people that died and did they go to hospital.

ax530 · 11-10-2020 01:08PM

castletownman wrote: »

Just got confirmed positive. Had my test Friday evening at 6.20 and got the result back this morning so decent turnover. It seems to have spread like wildfire from post-county final socialising on Sunday and Monday. I feel ashamed in myself.

Have zero symptoms and feel perfectly fine but of course start getting panicky whenever I think there is a fever, headache or loss of taste coming on.

Have to self-isolate now till Saturday, which doesn't seem too daunting

Good luck to you hope speedy recovery.
Was country final last Sunday or week before?

s1ippy · 11-10-2020 01:08PM

castletownman wrote: »

Just got confirmed positive. Had my test Friday evening at 6.20 and got the result back this morning so decent turnover. It seems to have spread like wildfire from post-county final socialising on Sunday and Monday. I feel ashamed in myself.

Have zero symptoms and feel perfectly fine but of course start getting panicky whenever I think there is a fever, headache or loss of taste coming on.

Have to self-isolate now till Saturday, which doesn't seem too daunting

I bet you're like the vast, vast majority who get through it not a bother. All the best in your recovery, it's an anecdote for when it's all over anyway! Take it easy, man.

Mullaghteelin · 11-10-2020 01:10PM

440Hertz wrote: »

I'm just wondering, if any of you could emigrate right now, would you?

Personally, I feel this is a selfish, cowardly attitude. We can't all jump ship the moment things go sour. Leaving whoever's left behind to pick up the pieces and clean up the mess. It's one of our worst habits IMO.
Irish emigrants should continue to be taxed here, like what the US does.

ax530 · 11-10-2020 01:10PM

shocksy wrote: »

Be careful with that post, you'll be castrated for such a remark like that on this thread. It's inconceivable to some people on here. They could at least man the main roads in and out of the North. Obviously couldn't monitor all roads but could at least do the main ones. No one from NI has any business coming down South at the moment with their outrageous infection rates.

The advice north of border is avoid crossing borders into Donegal no recommendations to not come into republic.

ACitizenErased · 11-10-2020 01:12PM

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1315263838674137088?s=21

manniot2 · 11-10-2020 01:13PM

castletownman wrote: »

Just got confirmed positive. Had my test Friday evening at 6.20 and got the result back this morning so decent turnover. It seems to have spread like wildfire from post-county final socialising on Sunday and Monday. I feel ashamed in myself.

Have zero symptoms and feel perfectly fine but of course start getting panicky whenever I think there is a fever, headache or loss of taste coming on.

Have to self-isolate now till Saturday, which doesn't seem too daunting

Sounds like you have the most common symptom of all with this virus - perfect health. I envy you

s1ippy · 11-10-2020 01:13PM

Mullaghteelin wrote: »

Personally, I feel this is a selfish, cowardly attitude. We can't all jump ship the moment things go sour. Leaving whoever's left behind to pick up the pieces and clean up the mess. It's one of our worst habits IMO.
Irish emigrants should continue to be taxed here, like what the US does.

That's a CRAZY opinion!!!

Being indebted to the country you were driven out of!!!

speckle wrote: »

Agree with the above, I just must live an eventful life at times, feel nearly part of an exclusive club.. Lightning hit 6 foot in front of me once, thankfully not a direct hit, but was pushed back probably another 5/6foot into my house and it set the landline ringing another time. Bizarre lesson never answer a landline if it rings during a thunderstorm, even if you have unplugged everything.:eek:

would have pregerred to win the lotto... now that reminds me of another time when...

Dangerous spelling mistake speckle, I thought you got preggers off the lotto..!

Lightning never hit me, but I was holding a closed umbrella looking at the sea once and I pointed to something in the distance with it and where the metal part of the umbrella was directed, lightning hit the water. Scared the living sh!t out of me.

Ger Roe · 11-10-2020 01:13PM

CruelSummer wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/education/education-officials-pushing-for-schools-to-stay-open-39608940.html

Glad to see the Department of Education take a long awaited stand against the constant press re school closures. It's very unsettling for children and parents, and they should present all the models which indicate the severe lifelong outcomes on our younger generation should weeks or particularly months more of Education be sacrificed. If things do get a lot worse here re hospital capacity, blended learning could be an option. Keeping children in touch with their teachers and their school.

Agreed, but not being done at the moment. A second level school I am famillar with has had 3 confirmed positive cases among teachers and pupils. Two full year levels have had to be sent home on a temporary basis, because of a shortage of teachers, to allow continued focus on exam years. Even within exam year tiers, some teachers are missing, being substituted regularly, or teaching remotely. All very disruptive for what is being sold as 'operating normally'.

Some parents have kept children home, for a variety of reasons, including frustration at the ongoing disruption, fear of infection, and pupil anxiety. Despite being told that video streaming classes and remote teacher contact would be maintained, this has now been withdrawn for all except medically designated cases. Anyone not attending class has been notified that their absence is being noted.

The 'keep calm and carry on' approach in some schools is creaking at the seams. Pupils requirements are not being met adequately, even if they are in school so they will certainly not be met outside of it.

If general situation gets worse, the school system will collapse. The 'plan' of keeping schools open to level 5 was never going to happen. Even if they were open, what level of service are they going to be able to provide, if they are struggling (silently), now?

Busi_Girl08 · 11-10-2020 01:13PM

ACitizenErased wrote: »

https://twitter.com/newschambers/status/1315263838674137088?s=21

Dramatic turnaround before the end of this week?

Deshawn · 11-10-2020 01:14PM

ax530 wrote: »

The advice north of border is avoid crossing borders into Donegal no recommendations to not come into republic.

Very hard to get control of a situation while a window for new cases to enter the jurisdiction is left wide open.

Practically impossible really. Securing the states borders should be high on the list of priorities.

manniot2 · 11-10-2020 01:14PM

Mullaghteelin wrote: »

Personally, I feel this is a selfish, cowardly attitude. We can't all jump ship the moment things go sour. Leaving whoever's left behind to pick up the pieces and clean up the mess. It's one of our worst habits IMO.
Irish emigrants should continue to be taxed here, like what the US does.

Many people do the country a favour by leaving. Reduces unemployment levels

Covid 19 Part XXV-44,159 ROI (1,830 deaths) 21,898 NI (598 deaths) (13/10) Read OP

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